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Abner Pitman… Marion Co. SC… wife Martha?

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I found these entries in SC Probate Records, Marion Co., 1800-1825… no index and a tedious search for Pitmans…

Martha Pitman….  widow of Abner?


Is this the Turner Bryan?

“Abstracts of Wills, Edgecombe County North Carolina, 1733-1856”, by Ruth

Smith Williams & Margaret Glenn Griffin

pg. 61 Edgecombe Co. NC dated 12 August 1797, probated Aug 1797

William Bryan: names wife Lizanar and children Turner Bryan, Bat Bryan,

Patty Bryan, Polly Bryan, Canadah Bryan, Barbary Bryan


Charity Pitman… sister of Abner?

Sarah Pitman

A Malachi Murphy was associated with Abner in Edgecombe… is this him?

A “James Harrell” is noted in one of the entries above…

Series: S108093

Reel: 0017

Frame: 00718

Item: 000

Date: 6/4/1829

Description: HARRELL, JAMES OF MARION DISTRICT, WILL TYPESCRIPT (MSS WILL: BOOK 1, PAGE 167; ESTATE PACKET: ROLL 371) (1 FRAME).

Names indexed: HARRELL, JAMES; HARRELL, MARY H.; HARRELL, MATTHEW W.; PITMAN, CHARITY; PITMAN, SARAH

Locations: MARION DISTRICT

Document type: WILL (TYPESCRIPT)

http://www.archivesindex.sc.gov/onlinearchives/RecordDetail.aspx?RecordId=298204
notes…
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source: http://www.martygrant.com/genealogy/familydata/aqwn908.htm
Charity Pitman

CENSUS:1850 Marion Dist., SC # 881/885
Ithamer Gaddy 85 Farmer $500 Marion
Charity 74;

NAMED-PROBATE ROLL # 321 Marion Co., SC Ithamar Gaddy 1851
Will dated 20 Sep 1850
grave stones form my wife Charity and William Gaddy my son decd.
Gr-Ch John J. Gaddy, Levi Gaddy, Israel Gaddy, Mary Gaddy, Samuel Gaddy, Joseph Gaddy, Charles Gaddy, Sarah Gaddy and Adeline Gaddy, all the children of my son William Gaddy, decd except Elizabeth Grantham wife of Elias Grantham.
Gr-children John, Ann, Civil and Catherine Grantham children of my dau Elizabeth Grantham, decd.
my sons James, Hardy, and Allen Gaddy.
Dau Nancy Hays
son Silas Gaddy
dau Mary Stackhouse
no proven date, appraisal dated 16 Jan 1851
…;

REFERENCE: A History of Marion County, South Carolina From Its Earliest Times to the Present, 1901, by W. W. Sellers, Esq., of the Marion Bar. 1902. pp. 176-178

Gaddy.—Another family in Hillsboro, is the Gaddy family. Old man Ithamer Gaddy was the first known ; his wife, Charity, was a Miss Pitman, sister of old man Hardy Pitman, who seventy-five years ago lived near by, and was a prominent citizen ; the name Pitman is not found in the county. Old man Ithamer Gaddy was a most excellent man, quiet and inoffensive, a Christian gentleman ; he raised a large family, five sons and two daughters; the sons were William, James, Hardy, Allen and Silas; the daughters were Elizabeth and Mary (Polly, as she was called). ;

Amy Pitman will and children….    http://sciway3.net/proctor/marion/wills/PitmanAmy.html

Written by anderson1951

May 16, 2012 at 8:28 pm

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Abner Pitman notes…

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I’m just collecting notes trying to figure this guy out…

Abner Pitman was the son of who?… OK… which Joseph?

EDGECOMBE COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA, COURT MINUTES, 1775-1785, BOOK III, Haun 

[346] -76     Nov 1785

3.  A Deed of Sale from Joseph PITMAN to Abner PITMAN proved by Ethd. PHILIPS.

EDGECOMBE COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA, COURT MINUTES, 1786-1792, BOOK IV, Haun

[160]     Feb 1789

10.  A deed of Sale from Jacob BATTLE Sheriff to Abner PITMAN acknd.

From Kinfolks of Edgecombe County by Alan Watson 1969

Deed book 5 # 91 Abner Pitman bought the land of Joseph Pitman decd. at Sheriff’s sale formerly granted to Elizabeth Pitman, May 1, 1788.

Deed book 11 # 561 Abner Pitman of Maryan (Marion District) South Carolina was son of Joseph Pitman Feb. 19, 1806

Joseph Pitman Dec. 18, 1786 feb. ct. 1787  [son Abner]

Account of sale by Wm. Fort, D. Sheriff, and Reubin Jones, exr., Feb. 23, 1787, October Court 1787.
Account current with the exr., October Court 1787.
Edgecombe County NC Estate Records, NC State Archives, C.R. 037.508.98
PITTMAN Joseph – 1787 – Reuben JONES, excr.; Abner PITTMAN to render slaves Priss (value L200), Abraham (L200), Vilet (L200); no family info, per se.

Edge. Co. Db 5, page 136, deed date 21 Mar 1789, recorded May Ct 1789,

Abner Pitman, Edge. Co to Arthur Pitt for 60 pounds, a Negro boy named

Abraham, about 5 years old last fall, signed Abner Pittman, wit.

Etheldred Philips, Noah Woodard.  Abstracted 9-18-04, NCA film

C.037.40007, CTC.

Edgecombe County NcArchives Wills…..Proctor, Moses – Estate 1795

Proctor, Moses, Estate file, NC Archives, Edgecombe Co. Estates,

CR.037.508.102.  JUDGEMENT against Wm. Brake for 3 pounds, one shilling

with interest from (?0 Dec 1794 until paid, to be taken from the goods

and chattels of said Brake, issued 24 June, 1795 by S. Ruffin.  Marked

Deloach vs Wm. Brake and Wm.. Faulk, warrant L3-1-0, executed by Abner 

Pitman(from the research of Tommy Colbert  http://files.usgwarchives.net/nc/edgecombe/wills/proctor2747wl.txt)

Edge. Co. Db 9, page 362, deed date 29 Jan 1800, recorded Feb Ct 1800,

Malichi Murphrey, Edge. Co to Abner Pitman, Edge. Co for $500 silver, a

tract beginning at William Horn’s corner a red oak and gum in Falling

Run then by said Horn’s line south 70 west 760 poles to a white oak a

corner tree then by Horn’s line north 60 west 80 poles to a pine in

Thos. Pollich’s line then by said line north 82 east 118 poles to a

corner a white oak then by the other line north 8 west 160 poles to a

white oak sapling then east 42 poles to a gum on Falling Run then down

said run to the first station, containing 107 acres, signed Malichi

Murphree, Sally Murphree, wit Josiah Horn, William Horn. Abstracted 9

Nov 07, RD copy, CTC.

(don’t let that deed reference to the little creek “Falling Run” throw you off because it is shown on modern maps over near Swift Creek because (and I’m not certain) there also was another little creek with the same name in the old deeds near William Horn’s property South of Tar River near the old Battle property… the deed references to Thomas Pollock makes me suspect it was associated nearer to south Tar River (that Pollock was a descendant of the “war” governor of 1711)…. this stuff is maddening.)

Edge. Co. Db 9, page 457, deed date 28 Mar 1800, recorded May Ct 1800,

commissioners divide the lands of John Stallings dec’d between the

lawful claimants, viz, Matthew Stallings and William Stallings,

pursuant to an order from Feb Ct 1800, commissioners divided a tract

containing 159 & 1/4 acres as per the above figure ABCDEFGHL into equal

lots, 1 & 2 containing 79 acres, three roods and twenty poles, #1

containing the lower part was drawn by Matthew Stallings and is to pay

unto his brother, William Stallings $50 silver, beginning at a stake in

Adam I. Haywood’s line marked with “A” then north 6 east 187 poles to a

dead pine Abram Jones corner at “B” then along the black line which

divides the plate south 80 west to three white oaks and a dogwood then

south 119 poles along Abner Pitman’s line to a small pine Haywood’s

corner at “L” then along Haywood’s line to the beginning, lot #2

containing the upper half and the house an equal number of acres but

inferior in value, beginning at a dead pine standing in the cleared

grounds at the letter “B” then north 88 east 32 poles to a red oak in

Abram Jones line then along said line south 84 east 50 poles to a white

oak said Jones & Frederick Phillips’ corner tree then along a crooked

line of marked trees, viz, north 14 west 18 poles then north 44 west 8

poles then north 68 west 24 poles then north 49 west 29 poles then

north 23 west 18 poles to a branch near the old foot way then up the

said branch north 85 west 26 poles to an oak then along Frederick

Phillips other line north 27 poles to a pine standing near Linches Path

then along Lynches line south 44 west 24 poles then south 48 west 36

poles to a pine and gum Linches corner marked in the above plan with

the letter “G” then along Linches other line south 28 west 48 poles to

a maple standing in the old line at “H” then along the old line south

55 poles to the center of three white oaks and a dogwood marked as “I”

then along the Black Line which divides the whole tract by a course

north 80 east to the beginning, signed Hartwell Philips, Exum Philips,

Sr, John Fountain (X), Exum Philips, Jr, Duke Wm. Sumner, Fredk.

Philips, County surveyor. NOTE: DEED HAS PLAT.  Abstracted 14 Sep 07,

RD copy CTC.

Edge. Co. Db 11, page (542), deed date 14 Feb 1806, recorded Feb Ct

1806, John Evans, county aforesaid to Abraham Evans, his father, same

place, for one pepper corn to be annualy paid least to farm, two tracts

of land on the north side of Tar River and on each side of Falling Run

in one tract on the west side of said run 107 acres formerly belonging 

to Malechi Murphrey & Abner Pitman, the other tract adjoining

containing 353 acres being the tract and plantation sold from Jacob

Dickinson to Jacob Battle, signed John Evans, wit Frederick Philips,

Jos Jno. Sumner. Abstracted 12-7-06, NCA film C.037.400010, CTC.

I’m not sure where this property was?  I think it could be at either question mark… is this the same Murphy that shows up also in South Carolina?

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Abner …South Carolina

Series: S165015

Year: 1814

Item: 00026

ignore: 000

Date: 11/29/1814 

Description: ERVIN, JAMES R., PETITION PROTESTING THE ELECTION OF CHISLEY DANIEL TO THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES FROM MARION DISTRICT, CLAIMING THAT CERTAIN UNQUALIFIED PERSONS VOTED. (2 PAGES)

Names indexed: BAREFIELD, KEATLEY; DANIEL, CHISLEY; ERVIN, JAMES R.; GRICE, JOHN; OWENS, BENJAMIN; PITMAN, ABNER; SEALS, ANDREW; WHITEHEAD, JAMES

Locations: MARION DISTRICT

Document type: PETITION

http://www.archivesindex.sc.gov/onlinearchives/RecordDetail.aspx?RecordId=253797

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Series: S213192

Volume: 0044

Page: 00010

Item: 002

Date: 2/14/1815

Description: LATTA, MARTHA, PLAT FOR 100 ACRES ON FISHING CREEK, SURVEYED BY WILLIAM GASTON FOR WILLIAM NEALY ON MARCH 9, 1795.

Names indexed: GASTON, JOSEPH; GASTON, WILLIAM; LATTA, JOHN; LATTA, MARTHA; MILLING, ROBERT; NEALY, WILLIAM; PITMAN, WILEY; SMITH, ISACK; WIER, WILLIAM

Locations: FISHING CREEK

Document type: PLAT

http://www.archivesindex.sc.gov/onlinearchives/RecordDetail.aspx?RecordId=217351

I don’t know if this Wylie character is even from NC… he may be a SC native?

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Series: S213190

Volume: 0038

Page: 00168

Item: 001

Date: 2/22/1816 

Description: FORD, JAMES, PLAT FOR 327 ACRES ON SKIPER BAY, MARION DISTRICT, SURVEYED BY DOUGAL CARMICHAEL.

Names indexed: BARFIELD, ELISHA; CARMICHAEL, DOUGAL; FORD, JAMES; GIBSON, STEPHEN; PITMAN, SAMUEL

Locations: BEAR SWAMP; LITTLE PEE DEE RIVER; MARION DISTRICT; SKIPPER BAY

Document type: PLAT

http://www.archivesindex.sc.gov/onlinearchives/RecordDetail.aspx?RecordId=204966

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Series: S213190

Volume: 0032

Page: 00372

Item: 002

Date: 4/20/1795

Description: PITMAN, WYLEY, PLAT FOR 90.75 ACRES ON FISHING CREEK, CAMDEN DISTRICT, SURVEYED BY JOHN MCCLENAHAN.

Names indexed: CULP, PETER; LATTA, THOMAS; MCCLENAHAN, JOHN; PITMAN, WYLEY; WIER, WILLIAM

Locations: CAMDEN DISTRICT; FISHING CREEK

Document type: PLAT

http://www.archivesindex.sc.gov/onlinearchives/RecordDetail.aspx?RecordId=199189

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Series: S213190

Volume: 0040

Page: 00123

Item: 002

Date: 2/24/1826 

Description: MCINTYRE, DANIEL, PLAT FOR 200 ACRES ON BURNT BAY, MARION DISTRICT, SURVEYED BY DOUGAL CARMICHAEL.

Names indexed: CARMICHAEL, DOUGAL; MCCALL, DANIEL; MCINTYRE, DANIEL; MCINTYRE, DOUGAL; MCINTYRE, MRS.; PITMAN, SAMUEL

Locations: BURNT BRANCH; CAIN BRANCH; LITTLE PEE DEE RIVER; MARION DISTRICT

Document type: PLAT

http://www.archivesindex.sc.gov/onlinearchives/RecordDetail.aspx?RecordId=205652

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Series: S108093

Reel: 0017

Frame: 00718

Item: 000

Date: 6/4/1829 

Description: HARRELL, JAMES OF MARION DISTRICT, WILL TYPESCRIPT (MSS WILL: BOOK 1, PAGE 167; ESTATE PACKET: ROLL 371) (1 FRAME).

Names indexed: HARRELL, JAMES; HARRELL, MARY H.; HARRELL, MATTHEW W.; PITMAN, CHARITY; PITMAN, SARAH

Locations: MARION DISTRICT

Document type: WILL (TYPESCRIPT)

http://www.archivesindex.sc.gov/onlinearchives/RecordDetail.aspx?RecordId=298204

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Series: S108093

Reel: 0007

Frame: 00355

Item: 000

Date: 10/1838 

Description: PITMAN, WYLIE OF CHESTER DISTRICT, WILL TYPESCRIPT (MSS WILL: ESTATE RECORD BOOK Q, PAGE 159; ESTATE PACKET: APT 54, PKG 850) (2 FRAMES).

Names indexed: ANDERSON, ALVIN N.; LEE, JAMES; MCFADDEN, ROBERT; PITMAN, ABIJAH; PITMAN, DAVID H.; PITMAN, ELIJAH H.; PITMAN, ELIZABETH; PITMAN, JOHN; PITMAN, WILLIS H.; PITMAN, WYLIE; SIDES, HILLIAD J.; WHITE, MEADOW; WHITE, RHODY

Locations: CHESTER DISTRICT

Document type: WILL (TYPESCRIPT)

http://www.archivesindex.sc.gov/onlinearchives/SearchResults.aspx

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Series: S213192

Volume: 0043

Page: 00449

Item: 003

Date: 11/22/1813 

Description: GIBSON, JOHN, PLAT FOR 105 ACRES ON BROWNS CREEK, MARION DISTRICT, SURVEYED BY HENRY C. LEGETT.

Names indexed: BROWN, JOHN; BURTON, THOMAS; DEW, CHRISTOPHER; GIBSON, JOHN; LACY, WILLIAM; LEGETT, HENRY C.; MURFEY, MALACHI; PENDERGRASS, DARBY

Locations: MARION DISTRICT; PEE DEE RIVER

Document type: PLAT

http://www.archivesindex.sc.gov/onlinearchives/SearchResults.aspx

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Written by anderson1951

January 19, 2012 at 6:33 pm

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Thomas Pitman d. 1754/5 Edgecome

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Some missing sons… only two of eight sons are named in his will. Linda Smith has shared some family documents… one document is the Will of Lott Pitman who is named in the Will of Thomas Pitman d 1754.

The other named son is Thomas Pitman also cited in the will of Thomas d.1754.

Lott Pitman names another son “Newit” in the attached will which has been in her family records. Also attached are some letters concerning a William Pitman from Robeson, NC to Marion District, SC and elsewhere…

We welcome a discussion and any more clues that can be provided. Sorry for my tardiness, Linda sent me this info Oct. of last year. I should be feathered… and threatened with a good tarring.

This link is the original Page with a bit more info on ole Thomas…

Hmmm… the mention of the name “Gaddy” in the letter above shows up in some of my notes concerning Marion District, SC.

https://andersonnc.com/?s=abner+pitman

Some notes about Abner Pitman of Edgecombe, NC.

Abner was born in Edgecombe but later moved to Marion District, SC… here is the background I have compiled:

I still do not know “for sure” which Joseph Pitman was his father. Ya gotta love a tough brick wall.

Also, I do not know of any relationship of this Abner Pitman to the other Pitmans discussed above. (other than the “Marion” connection.

Written by anderson1951

April 22, 2022 at 4:25 pm

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Quaker Pitmans… Edgecombe

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I think this post solves the “problem Pitman”…

Guy Baker found the missing “will” (actually a deed) of the Quaker Joseph… an obscure post from 1998 verifies it by the marriage of William Faulk and Patience Pitman…

Traci Thompson added the missing link of a forgotten daughter of Joseph Pitman… it all adds up… this is the second most difficult “proof” I’ve dealt with in the last 12 years…

Also see my Page “John Gay and John Gay Jr Wills”… I’ve updated the info which seriously substantiates what I say below…

More property puzzles to mull over…  click squares to enlarge… then click again…

As they say, “a picture is worth a thousand words”… but as kantankerous genealogists go… they demand the thousand words… so I’ve tried to add some of those…

These are some of the references I used to arrive at the map…

Edge. Co (Halifax) Db 4, page 153, deed date 10 Feb 1750, recorded Nov

Ct 1751, John Gay, Edge. Co to Joseph Pitman, Edge. Co for 35 pds, a

tract containing 240 acres beginning at a gum at the mouth of a branch

and running up the branch to Gay’s line then along the line to the

corner then down the said line to the river to three trees on the south

side of the branch then up the river to the first station, signed John

Gay (IC) (his mark), wit Moses Pitman, Joe Pitman (mark).  Abstracted

2-7-06, NCA film C.047.40002, CTC.

Abstracts of Deeds Edgecombe Precinct, Edgecombe Co NC, As Found In Halifax Co, NC, Public Registry, Deed Books 1-6, 1732-1758, Hoffman, Margaret M.

14 May 1756 Joseph Pitman, Sr. sold land to Joseph Pitman, Jr. 90 acres on Tar River, joining a branch, John Gay and the River. Wit. Moses Pitman.

1757       31 May. William Green of Edgecombe Co., planter, to Jesse Green of same, planter, for £23 a tract of 126 acres on the south bank of Tar River and on deep Branch adjoining Richard Horn. Wit: James Horn, Joseph Pitman. Edgecombe Co. Deed Book 00, p. 6.

Edge. Co. Db 00, page 100, deed date 29 Jun 1757, recorded Jun Ct

1760, William Horn, Edge. Co to my son, James Horn, for love and good

will to my son, a tract on the south side of Tar River beginning at a

white oak at the mouth of a branch and running up the branch as

follows, north 20 west 80 poles to a white oak then south 25 west 60

poles then south 50 west 34 poles then north (56) west 44 poles to a

red oak then north 10 east 240 poles to a red oat at the river then

down the courses of the river to the beginning, containing 200 acres,

signed William Horn (mark W & H with common vertical leg), wit Jesse

Green, William Gay, Elijah Horn (mark). Abstracted 12-20-05, NCA film

C.037.40001, CTC.

31 May 1757 William Green of Edgecombe Co., planter, to Jesse Green of 

same, planter, for £23 a tract of 126 acres on the south bank of Tar River and on deep Branch 

adjoining Richard Horn. Wit: James Horn, Joseph Pitman. Edgecombe Co. Deed Book 00, p. 6.

Edge. Co. Db D, page 372, deed date 17 Aug 1770, recorded (Aug Ct 

1772), Jesse Green, planter, Edge. Co to Joel Horn, planter, same 

county for 50 pds VA, a tract of 126 acres on the south side of Tar 

River beginning at William Horn’s corner a red oak at the river and 

running (south) 60 west to a pine in William Horn’s line then west to a 

red oak then north to the Deep Branch then down the said branch to the 

river then down the river to the beginning, signed Jesse Green, wit 

William Taylor, Molly Taylor (X), acknowledged by Jesse Green.  

Abstracted 24 Dec 07, NCA film C.037.40014, CTC.

1758       24 Nov. William Green of Edgecombe Co. to Joseph Pitman of same, for £3 a tract of 90 acres on the south bank of Tar River at the mouth of Deep Branch adjoining said Pitman. Wit: Joseph (J) Pitman, Jesse Green.

Edge. Co. Db 1, page 420, deed date 15 Oct 1761, recorded 3 Sep 1762,

Earl Granville to William Gay, Edge. Co for 10 shillings sterling, a

tract beginning at a white oak in Thomas Pollock’s line (John Gay’s)

corner then by said Gay’s line south 10 east 180 poles to a red oak

then by (Joseph ?) & (? Pitmans) line north 80 east 136 poles to a pine

(Jesse ?) corner then by said line south 40 poles to a red oak then

west 400 poles to a red oak then north 216 poles to a black oak in

Thomas Pollock’s line then by said line to the first station,

containing 340 acres, signed Thos Child, wit (Saml Swann), John Linton.

NOTE: VERY HARD TO READ. Abstracted 6 Mar 07, NCA film C.037.40002,

CTC.

1762       22 May. William Gay of edgecombe Co. to JOSEPH PITTMAN of same, for 20s. Virginia money a parcel of 12 acres adjoining both parties and JOSEPH PITTMAN SENR., it being part of a Granville grant to said Gay for 340 acres bearing date Oct. 11, 1761. Wit: James Horn, JOSEPH “J” PITTMAN. DB 1, p. 398.

1762       22 May. William Gay of Edgecombe Co. to JOSEPH PITTMAN of same, for 27s. 6d Virginia money a parcel of 13 acres adjoining both parties, it being part of a Granville Grant to said Gay for 340 acres bearing date Oct 11, 1761. Wit; JOSEPH PITTMAN, James Horn. DB 1, p. 401.

Jul 1763

The last Will & Testament of Joseph PITMAN Decd. was Exibited on Oath by the Exor. &  proved by the Oaths of James HORN & Mary GREEN two of the Subscribing Witnesses thereto & at the same Time the Exors. were qualified accordg. to Law Ordred &c. An Inventory of the Estate of sd. Joseph PITMAN was Exhibited on Oath & Orderd &c. Ordred that Elisha BATTLE Esqr. Joseph SUMNER & Daniel ROSS or any two of them being first duly qualified meet & divide the Estate of Joseph PITMAN deceas’d among the Widow &  Children of sd. Deceas’d & Return &c.

1764       7 Mar. JACOB PITMAN of Edgecombe Co. to Samuel Longbottom of same, for £80 Proc. money a tract of 200 acres on the south bank of Tar River adjoining Record, “it being the land and plantation whereon my father, BENJA. PITMAN, lived and gave me by his last will and testament.” Wit: Edward Moore, Thomas Pridgin. DB C, p. 158.

Edge. Co. Db C, page 301, deed date 18 Jan 1765, recorded Apr Ct 1765,

William Gay, Edge. Co to Elisha Battle, county aforesaid, planter, for

62 pds VA, a tract containing 225 acres being part of two surveys at

“four shillings (per) hundred Quit rests” 150 acres os said land was

taken up and a patent granted to John Gay bearing date 20 Apr 1745 and

the other 75 acres granted to the said William Gay 15 Oct 1761, on the

south side of Tar River beginning at a Spanish Oak in the purchase

patent line the said Battle’s corner then north 83 east along the said

line to the river then down the various courses of the river to the

mouth of a large branch Joseph Pitman’s line then up the various

courses of said branch to the said Gay’s line of his new survey then

along the said line south 10 east to the said Gay’s back line then

along the said line (W) to two black jacks the said Battle’s corner

then north 203 poles to the first station, signed William Gay, Ann Gay

(X) (called his wife), wit Jesse Gilbert, Arthur Gay (A), John Battle,

Ann was examined for her free consent. Abstracted 11-07-05, RD copy,

CTC.

1769       24 Aug. Samuel Longbottom and wife, Mary Bottom, [sic] of Edgecombe Co. to NEWIT PITMAN, River adjoining Richards, it being part of a tract bequeathed by BENJA. PITMAN to his son, JACOB and conveyed by said JACOB PITMAN by deed to said Samuel Longbottom. Wit: Duncan Lamon, James Jolly, Archibald Lamon. DB D, p. 155.

Edge. Co. Db 3, page 466, deed date 29 Mar 1779, recorded Aug Ct 1779,

Elisha Battle, Edge. Co to William Battle, for natural love and

affection for his son, William Battle and for his better maintenance &

preferment, three tracts of land containing in the whole, 873 acres on

the south side of Tar River, to wit, #1 containing 615 acres being part

of two patents, one granted to George Pollock dated 18 Aug 1727 and the

other granted to John Gay dated 20 Apr 1745 and also a deed granted to

William Gay bearing date 15 Oct 1761, beginning at a maple on the river

bank a little above where Tristrem Rodgers formerly lived then by a

line south 7 east to the run of Gays Swamp then up the various courses

of the said swamp to Elisha Battle’s line then by said line south 7

east to a pine in the back line of Pollock’s patent Elisha Battle’s

corner then by said line north (23) east to a Spanish oak formerly

Gay’s corner then by a line south 203 poles to two black jacks in the

back line of said Gay’s survey then by the said line east to Jethro

Pitman’s corner then by his line north 10 west to a branch the dividing

line between the said Gay’s survey and Joseph Pitman’s land then down

the various courses of the said branch to the river then up the various

courses of the said river to the first station; #2 containing 258 acres

being part of a tract of land granted to the said Elisha Battle by a

deed bearing date 10 Aug 1762, beginning at Elisha Battle’s corner then

by his line south 240 poles to the back line of the said survey then by

his line east 172 poles to a corner pine then by a line north 240 poles

to Gay’s line then by said line west 172 poles to the first station,

reserving a lifetime right for said Elisha Battle and his wife to 200

acres as he or his wife shall choose, signed Elisha Battle, wit Jacob

Battle, Jeremiah Hilliard. NOTE: DEED CALLS FOR THREE TRACTS BUT ONLY

TWO ARE SHOWN TOTALING THE WHOLE 873 ACRES. Abstracted 5-12-05, NCA

film C.037.40005, CTC.

1780Joseph Pitman Sr of Edgcomb Co to William Faulk of same. 29 Apr 1780 3L. 90 acres on the south side of Tar River. Joining the mouth of Deep Branch, Joseph Pitman; also 12 acres which was part of a 340 acre Granville Grant to William Gay 15 Oct 1761 who sold it to Joseph Pitman 2 May 1762, on the south side of Tar River, joining Joseph Pitman Sr, sd William Gay. Wit: Joel Horn, Jethro Pittman. Aug Ct 1780. Edward Hall CC (Edgecombe County, North Carolina Deeds, Vol 3, 1778-1786, Abstracted by Dr Stephen E Bradley, Jr)

12 Nov 1782 – To all whom these presents shall come greeting know ye that I Joseph Pitman Senr of the county of Edgecombe in the state of North Carolina for and in consideration of the sum of five shillings current money of North Carolina to in hand paid by William Faulk my son in law and his wife the receipt which I do hereby acknowledge and for and in consideration of the natural love good will and affection I have and bear unto my said son in law William and his wife and divers other good causes and considerations me theretofore (having) hath given granted and by these presents doth freely and absolutely give and grant unto my said son in law William and his wife their heirs and assigns one tract of land containing ninety acres more or less (with) the appuntentures thereafter these (__) belonging and being the land and plantation whereon I now live also one (still) and one crosscut saw one hand saw and (__) carving knife one large iron pot and all my plantation tools (__) (__) (__) to have and to hold the said plantation land and premises aforesaid with the appurtenance respectively unto the said William Faulk and his heirs and assigns to the only proper use benefits and (__) (__) of him the sd William Faulk to him his heirs and assigns forever and (__) Joseph Pitman for my self my heirs (__) the land plantation and premises aforesd with the appurtenances and other articles to the afore mentioned William Faulk (__) his heirs and assigns shall and well warrant and defend forever by these presents in witness whereof I the said Joseph Pitman have hereunto set my hand and seal the 12th day of November anno Domini 1782 – Joseph Pitman – signed sealed and delivered in presence of / (Joel) Horn / Jefse Green (Edgecombe Co NC, Aug Court 1783) Edgecombe Co NC Real Estate Conveyances, 1780-1788, Vol E, 4, c.037.40006, Vol E, page 399 (William Faulk sold this land on 1 Jan 1786)

1 Jan 1786 – Edge. Co. Db 4, page 363, deed date 1 Jan 1786, recorded Feb Ct 1786, William Faulk, planter, Edge. Co. to Thomas Pitman, planter, Edge. Co. for 100 pounds, all his right to a tract of land containing 90 acres being part of a patent granted to Joseph Pitman bearing date Feb 10, 1750, on the south side of Tar River beginning at a corner sweet gum on the river in the mouth of the Long Branch then up the said branch to a white oak Jethro Pitman’s corner then south along the said line to a corner white oak then easterly to a red oak on the river then up the various courses of the river to the first station, signed William Faulk, wit. Williamson Barnes, D. Battle, Elisha Battle. Abstracted 8-19-03 from NCA film C.037.40014, CTC.

Edge. Co Db 5, page 85, deed date 3 Jan 1789, William Faulk, Edge. Co

to Henry Williams, county aforesaid for 75 pounds, a tract on the south

side of Tar River, beginning at the mouth of the Deep Branch then up

the said branch to the (line) a white oak then along the line to a pine

in Joseph Pitman’s line which is now Jethro Pitman’s then along the

said Pitman’s line to the river to a white oak then down the river to

the first station, containing 90 acres, also, another tract containing

12 acres being part of a tract contained in a grant from Granville

bearing the date 15 Oct 1764 to William Gay containing 340 acres on the

south side of Tar River and was conveyed by said Gay to Joseph Pitman

on 2 May 1762 and was conveyed by said Pitman to William Faulk on 29

Apr 1780, beginning at a marked gum in Joseph Pitman, SR’s line running

down the said line to said William Faulk’s own corner a pine the along

the said Wm. Faulk’s line to a white oak then up the above said Wm.

Gay’s back line to marked pine a corner in said line then along a line

of marked trees to the beginning, signed William Faulk, wit Abisha

Horn, Millie Horn.  Abstracted 9-25-04, NCA film C.037.40007, CTC.

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the Estate Sale of Amy Pitman in 1791 shows some remarkable family ties…
note the buyers…
William Faulk… brother in law
Joseph Pitman… brother
Thomas Pitman… brother

her Executor was Abisha Horn (purported to marry Ann Ricks)… each are listed as buyers…

some notes involving Abisha Horn and others… note the property references…

1791 Jan 7 Jethro PITMAN, planter, sells 60 acres to Abishai HORN on S. side of Tar River, adj. Thomas PITMAN, on Great Branch, in Edgecombe County; proved in Feb 1794 court
1793 Mar 27 Jethro PITMAN sells 80 a. to Elisha HORN on S. side Tar River, adj. Abishai HORN and BATTLE, on Great Branch, in Edgecombe County; proved in Aug 1793 court
1793 Aug deed Jethro PITMAN to Elisha HORN proved in court, Edgecombe County
1794 Feb deed Jethro PITMAN to Abishai HORN proved in court, Edgecombe County 
1794 Jethro PITMAN receives state grant for land in Johnston County, NC, 100 a. on N. side of Little River
1796 May 31 Jethro PITMAN appointed overseer of the road in Johnston County
1796 Nov 24 Abisha HORN, dec’d, land divided among heirs, Joel, Joab, Josiah, Willie and Abisha, in Edgecombe County. 63 a. called the PITMAN place is mentioned. Land is on S. side of Tar River; Elisha BATTLE’s line; Daniel ROSS’s line; Abisha HORN’s line; PRICE’s corner; Buck (Beech?) Swamp. Earlier minutes of the Edgecombe County Court of Pleas and Quarter Sessions show Jethro involved in this area in regard to laying off land for a water grist mill for Moses HORN, 1774-1780.

In 1791 it seems Amy Pitman may have been living on her father’s property which had devolved to William Faulk…  Why didn’t she marry? Think about the pool of available men… if I am correct in my supposition that her father Joseph Pitman d.1782ish was a “strict” Quaker, then there simply may NOT have been an eligible Quaker male available.  She did note one underage daughter in her will (Elizabeth) which I suppose could indicate she was a widow of another Pitman male but it needs more research to prove… for now I am assuming she was single.

Amy Pitman will of 1791…

Notes on a later Joseph Pitman…  my hunch being that this is the son of Joseph the Quaker (brother of Amy Pitman) and also probably the man who witnessed the will of William Anderson in 1789…

Edge. Co. Db 9, page 335, deed date 25 Mar 1797, recorded Feb Ct 1800,
John Haywood, Raleigh, NC to Michael Williams, Edge. Co for $250, a
tract on the west side of Deloachs Branch containing (220) acres being
part of a tract which Joseph Pitman presently lives & being the whole
of the land belonging to the said Haywood on the west side of Deloachs
Branch except that part where Joseph Pitman lives, containing 25 acres,
signed John Haywood, wit S. Haywood, John Hudson. Abstracted 9-27-06,
NCA film C.037.40009, CTC.

Edge. Co. Db 13, page 307, deed date (20) Jul 1801, recorded May Ct
1810, John Hines, Edge. Co. to my grandsons, John H. Walker (John Hines
Walke) & William Walker for natural love and affection, and the further
consideration of ten shillings, a tract of land, land is to be loaned
to my son in law, Thomas Walker and his wife, Sarah Walker during their
life but said Thomas and Sarah are not to sell land but may live on it
during their natural lives, being part of a tract of land I bought of
Isaac Hill beginning at a lying down oak Joseph Armstrong’s ( ) then
south 31 ½ west to John Griffin line then along the said Griffin’s line
to a pine a corner then along a line of marked trees 111 poles to a
pine or hickory then a line of marked to Joseph Armstrong’s line 152
poles to the first station, being 100 acres, signed John Hines, wit.
Joseph Pitman, Joseph Armstrong (proved). Abstracted 1-26-04, NCA film
C.037.40011, CTC.

Edge. Co. Db 13, page 203, deed date 21 Dec 1809, recorded Feb Ct.
1810, Joseph Pitman and his wife, Selah Pitman Edge. Co. to William
Moore, son of George Moore, Edge. Co. for 100 pounds a tract of land on
the north side of Town Creek containing 91 acres, except for the use of
1/3 of said land to Elizabeth (Hanbury), widow of Samuel Hanbury, dec’d
during he natural life and no longer, land on Ruffin Branch, beginning
at a pine a corner of Samuel (Hanbury), dec’d, then along said
(Hanbury) and Solomon Ward’s line west 54 poles then along said
Hanbury’s line 107 poles to a corner in said Hanbury’s line then south
37 east through the ( ) to an oak in said Hanbury’s line then
along said Hanbury’s line nearly a north course to the beginning,
signed Joseph Pitman (X), wit. Rhoda Proctor. Abstracted 10-29-03, NCA
film C.037.40011.

Edge. Co. Db 13, page 441, deed date 28 Dec 1809, recorded Feb Ct
1811, William Balfour, Edge. Co. to Joseph Pitman, County aforesaid,
for 175 pounds, a tract of land on the north side of Town Creek,
containing 116 acres, beginning, at a water oak in Watery Branch, James
Bracewell corner the along said Bracewell line to a lightwood stake
corner then (north) along James (May) line to a pine Moore’s and Hill’s
corner then along Hill’s line to aforesaid branch to a corner maple at
or near the run of said branch then down the water course of said
branch to the first station, signed William Balfour, wit. Hardy
Proctor, N. Sessums. Abstracted 2-6-04, NCA film C.037.40011, CTC.

Edge. Co Db 13, page 432, deed date 28 Aug 1810, recorded Feb Ct 1811,
Joseph Pitman, Edge. Co. to Moses Baker, county aforesaid for ($310) a
tract of land on the ( ) side of Town Creek containing ( )
acres, beginning at a water oak in the Watery Branch ( ) Baswell’s
corner then along said Bracewell’s line to a lightwood stake corner
then north along James Moors line to a pine Moors and Hill’s corner
then along Hill’s line to the aforesaid branch to a corner maple at or
near the run of the said branch then down the watery courses of said
branch to the first station, signed Joseph Pitman (X), wit. Isaac
Norfleet, Joshua Bullock. Abstracted 2-6-04, NCA film C.037.40011,
CTC.
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This DEED appears to be the intestate will “of a sorts” of Joseph the Quaker b. 1724- d. about 1782/3…  the missing piece of the puzzle, so to speak…

12 Nov 1782 – To all whom these presents shall come greeting know ye that I Joseph Pitman Senr of the county of Edgecombe in the state of North Carolina for and in consideration of the sum of five shillings current money of North Carolina to in hand paid by William Faulk my son in law and his wife the receipt which I do hereby acknowledge and for and in consideration of the natural love good will and affection I have and bear unto my said son in law William and his wife and divers other good causes and considerations me theretofore (having) hath given granted and by these presents doth freely and absolutely give and grant unto my said son in law William and his wife their heirs and assigns one tract of land containing ninety acres more or less (with) the appuntentures thereafter these (__) belonging and being the land and plantation whereon I now live also one (still) and one crosscut saw one hand saw and (__) carving knife one large iron pot and all my plantation tools (__) (__) (__) to have and to hold the said plantation land and premises aforesaid with the appurtenance respectively unto the said William Faulk and his heirs and assigns to the only proper use benefits and (__) (__) of him the sd William Faulk to him his heirs and assigns forever and (__) Joseph Pitman for my self my heirs (__) the land plantation and premises aforesd with the appurtenances and other articles to the afore mentioned William Faulk (__) his heirs and assigns shall and well warrant and defend forever by these presents in witness whereof I the said Joseph Pitman have hereunto set my hand and seal the 12th day of November anno Domini 1782 – Joseph Pitman – signed sealed and delivered in presence of / (Joel) Horn / Jefse Green (Edgecombe Co NC, Aug Court 1783) Edgecombe Co NC Real Estate Conveyances, 1780-1788, Vol E, 4, c.037.40006, Vol E, page 399 (William Faulk sold this land on 1 Jan 1786) (I think Guy Baker transcribed this…)

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Henry Horn & Joseph Pitman notes…

Tar River (opened c. 1757, still active 1789).
Perquimans MM sent Joseph Newby to visit Friends on
Tar River, 6/6/1753. It later mentioned that Friends
were holding meeting there in the house of Henry Horn
(8/3/1757). These Friends became part of Perquimans MM
on 5/3/1758. Tar River Meeting became part of Rich
Square MM when it was established in 1760. It reported
to RSMM on 9/6/1760 that its worship circulated
between the houses of Henry Horn and Joseph Pitman. On
11/26/1774, EQM moved the meeting from Henry Horn’s
house, so by 8/19/1775 the Friends at Tar River had
started another meeting at Jure Watkins’s house. The
MM moved the meeting to Richard Vick’s house on
2/21/1778. On 8/31/1772, EQM transferred Tar River
Meeting to Contentnea QM. When Job Scott visited in
1789, he wrote that it was on Stoney Creek in Nash
County.         http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/QUAKER-ROOTS/2006-11/1163561204

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Here is how I think this all washes out…    These are the “Quaker Pitmans”….

Benjamin Pitman d. 1755    wife Ann

….. Moses

….. Jacob

….. Micah

….. Samson

….. Patience Faulk

….. Mary Bottoms

….. Abigal Pitman

….. Lacy Pitman

….. Cela Pitman

….. Jh_miaha Pitman

Moses Pitman d. 1760    wife Elizabeth

….. James

….. Moses

….. Mary

Joseph Pitman Sr   d. 1763  wife Ann   (son of William Pitman of Surry Co., VA)

….. Ann b. say 1749

….. Jethro  b. say 1751

….. Chloe b. say 1753

(estimates from Court Minutes)

Joseph Pitman Jr  b. 1-11-1724 d. 1782ish  (son of Thomas Pitman d.1730 of Meherin R.)

+Elizabeth (Gay) Pitman b. 1-11-1724 d. 3-31-1761

…..Faith b. 10-30-1747

…..Elizabeth b. 1-4-1752

…..Thomas b. 1-10-1754 d. 1816 m. Dicey Newton 1793  RW pension # R8275

…..Joseph b. 10-8-1756  m. Selah ___

…..Abia b. 3-12-1758

…..Patience b. 9-21-1760 m. William Faulk

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This Pitman is not connected to the Quakers… this is the guy who bought the property of Elizabeth Pitman in 1762 near Swift Creek adjacent to Wm. Anderson

Joseph Pitman  d.1787  wife Hanah   (son of Robert Pitman) a.k.a. “the Constable”

….. Abner

….. Isaac

….. Elizabeth

….. Hanah

….. Charity

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RW pensions…

I don’t know who this Joseph is but I do not think it is the son of the “Quaker” Joseph d.1782ish…  I do think the below Thomas Pitman IS his son…  Update:  after thinking a bit… this could clearly be sons of the Joseph d.1782ish.  The dates work.

 

Southern Campaign American Revolution Pension Statements & Rosters

Pension application of Joseph Pitman S7314     fn13NC

Transcribed by Will Graves    9/8/09   http://revwarapps.org/

State of North Carolina Burke County

Personally appeared in Open Court before the Justices of the County Court of Pleas and quarter Sessions now sitting Joseph Pitman a resident of said County & State aged 75 years, my Father had a record of my age which said I was born on the 10th day of September 1757 — I have no other knowledge of my age except this record.  Said Pittman being duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed 7th of June 1832.

That he entered the service of the United States under the following named officers & served as herein stated.

I was drafted for three months in the County of Granville North Carolina in the year 1779 or 80 in the fall the year under Colonel William Gill & Captain John Walker we marched from Granville to Wilmington on the Cape Fear River where we were stationed for three or four weeks: we then marched up to Cross Creek, (now Fayetteville) while at Wilmington we were under General Butler — when we parted with him we marched up to Cross Creek.  From Cross Creek I was furloughed to come home where I remained about 2 weeks & was called out into service & marched on to High Rock on Haw River against the Tories.  We took several prisoners but killed none in battle.  I was discharged at that place by Colonel Gill he gave me a written discharge but it is lost I have not seen it for many years — sometime after I was again drafted for 3 months more & put under Colonel William Moore who lived in Caswell County & Captain Abram Potter we were marched on to reinforce General Gates but before we got to the South Carolina line we heard that he had got defeated & we turned our course towards Wilmington but before we got there we were turned to Pasquotank County after a band of Tories we drove them from that quarter & stationed there a few weeks & returned towards home — we were discharged at the end of our service by Colonel Moore between Wilmington & Cross Creek from which place I returned home — some eight or nine months after this I was drafted again for 3 months & when out against the Tories down towards New Bern I was then under Colonel Joseph Taylor Captain [indecipherable name] we were out about 2 months but done no good & we were furloughed to return home we remained at home but a short time till we were called on to go & reinforce General Green [sic, Nathanael Greene].  We marched up as to Col. Mebane’s end Orange County & there heard of the battle of Guilford Court House.  I Colonel then returned home & furloughed us all.  I was never called on afterwards.

I was drafted once before I went into service myself & hired a substitute in consequence of the situation of my family we were once also classed & out of every 12th man one had to go for 18 months.  My class hired a man & paid him $100 each in Continental money.  This is my services as well as I can recollect.

He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present & declares that his name is not on the pension Roll of any State or the Agency of any State.

Sworn to & subscribed day & year aforesaid

Sworn to in open Court 28th of January 1833

S/ J. Erwin, Clk    S/ Joseph Pitman, X his mark

[James Buckhannon, John Davis, Robert Burchfield & Peter Epley gave the standard supporting affidavit.]

Southern Campaign American Revolution Pension Statements & Rosters

Pension application of Thomas Pitman (Pitmon) R8275 Dicy   fn33NC

Transcribed by Will Graves     9/8/09

State of North Carolina County of Buncombe

On this the 22nd day of May A.D. 1852 personally appeared before me, an acting Justice of the County Court (a Court of Record) for the County and State above mentioned: Dicy Pitman, a resident of Buncombe County; Aged, 81 years: who being first duly sworn according to law, doth on her oath, make the following Declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the Act of Congress passed July the 7th 1838, entitled, “An act granting half pay and pensions to certain Widows:” That she is the widow of Thomas Pitman deceased, who was a private in the Army of the Revolutionary war in the company commanded by Captain Alexander in the Regiment of North Carolina Militia commanded by Colonel Jackson, That he was a citizen of Edgecombe County in the State of North Carolina at the time he volunteered having been born and raised in said County.  She further says that the length of his first tower was 12 months and that he also served 2 other 6 months Towers one of which was as substitute for his Brother, Joseph Pitman, who was a Cooper of the Army.  The day of the month she does

not recollect on which he volunteered, but she thinks that the said Thomas Pitman spoke of the year 1776 and 1777 as the times in which he served.  Declarant further states that she has heard said Thomas Pittman speak of being in several Battlegrounds during his service but she does not recollect any particular one.  Declarant also states that she has heard the above mentioned Thomas Pitman speak of being in South Carolina during his service but that the greater part of his time was spent near the State line but that his service began and ended in North Carolina.

The Declarant further states that she has heard the aforementioned Thomas Pitman speak of other Officers than those already mentioned but that the names of the above are all that she recollects, except that of Washington, but whether the said Thomas Pitman was under his immediate command, she is not certain.  She being old, and her memory much impaired; and that a great many facts wants none with relation to the service have since the death of said Thomas Pitman escaped her memory.  That said Thomas Pitman at the date of his death was over 60 years of age and that he, the best of her knowledge, had never made any effort to obtain a pension.  She further states that her husband at his death had several papers relative to his services in the war, one of those papers she thinks was his discharge, but that a man by the name of Sawyer sent to her and got the papers and that she has not heard of them since that time.

She further declares that she was married to the said Thomas Pitman in the County of Edgecombe, State of North Carolina on the 25th day of August A.D. 1793 and that her name before marriage was Dicy Newton, and that her husband, the aforementioned Thomas Pitman died on the 15th of March A.D. 1814: that she was not married to him prior to his leaving the service, but that the Marriage actually took place before the first of January 1794, viz. at the date above mentioned.  She also declares that the Family record which is transmitted is true and correct.

S/ Dicy Pitman, X her mark

“Thos Pitmon and Dicy Newton was Married

in August 25th 1793, Edgecomb County noth carlina

by Lemon Ruffin, J. Peace”

[fn p. 3: copy of the last will and testament of Thomas Pitman: dated March 8, 1816, while living in Buncombe County, NC, leaving his entire estate to his wife Dicy “to strengthened and assist her in raising the family….”]

[fn p. 31: According to an affidavit given by Samuel W. Davidson on February 7, 1853 in Buncombe County,  Thomas and Dicy Pitman came to Buncombe County, NC in 1806 or 1807; that they had at that time 4 children, namely Elizabeth, Thomas, Polly and Lot; that two of those children are now dead; that Elizabeth, the eldest, is now about 56 years of age.]

Written by anderson1951

April 7, 2012 at 2:55 pm

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Elizabeth Pitman Land 1761/2

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Edgecombe County
Elizabeth Pitman
300ac, Grant # 170, Mar 25, 1749
Book 11, p. 243
Beginning on the No. side of Tar River

The tan colored section of this map is from a 1903 USGS historical Topo map… the other is a modern Topo.  It shows my best guess for Mial’s Bridge and Sweetan’s Landing (the road referred to in the 1760s “road orders)  The men mentioned would have lived close enough to service the road.  I can not find any specific clues as to where Joseph Pitman and  Arthur Pitman were living in 1760… they were clearly in the area.

Deed book 0 page 347: “Elizabeth PITTMAN of Edgecombe County, to Joseph PITTMAN of same, planter, 21 Sep 1761, 200 acre plantation whereon she then lived… part of the tract granted to sd. Elizabeth by Earle Granville 25 May 1759.” (This date of 1759 is apparently a mistake…should be 1749.)
Edgecombe County Court Minutes Sept 1762
Deed of Sale from Elizabeth Pitman to Joseph Pitman proved by Aaron Coleman.

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Edgecombe deed book 1 p 89 Edgecombe Co NC: Elizabeth PITTMAN of Edgecombe Co to Arthur PITMAN planter, 26 Sep 1761, 90 acres north side of Tar River…Granville grant to said Elizabeth…May 1749.
Edgecombe County Court Minutes Dec 1761-Mar 1762
Deed of Sale from Elizabeth Pitman to Arthur Pitman proved by Sherd. Haywood Esq.

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DB 1, p. 381: 20 Sep 1762 ARTHUR PITMAN of Edgecombe Co., planter to JOSEPH PITMAN of same, planter, for £20 Proc. money a tract of 100 acres on the north side of Tar River adjoining ELIZ. PITMAN, John Fountain and Robert coleman. Wit: Wm. (X) Anderson, Handover (X) Hatcher, John Foundain.
Edgecombe County Court Minutes Sept 1762
A Deed of Sale from Arthur Pitman to Joseph Pitman proved by Wm. Anderson

a misc 1764 deed…

1764       20 Apr. Robert Armstrong of Edgecombe Co. to WILLIAM PITMON of same, for £5 Virginia money a tract of 60 acres on the north side of White oak Swamp on Tantroft Branch, it being taken out of Rite McLemore’s patent. Wit: JOSEPH PITMON, HANNAH (X) PITMON. DB C, p. 251

This is the last page of the 1775 deed from, to quote Bradley’s abstract, “Joseph Pitman & his wife Hannah (x) of Edgecombe Co to Thomas Teate of same. 1 Sep 1775. 25 pounds 10 shillings proclamation. 100 acres which was part of a grant to Elizabeth Pitman 25 Mar 1749, on the north side of Tar River & on Dochead [Doehead] Pocoson, joining Thomas Price. Sd femme relinquished right of dower. Wit: Michael Haywood, Sherwood Haywood. Oct Ct. 1775.” Not sure why Bradley put an “X” beside Hannah; clearly Joseph signed with an “X” while Hannah signed with an “H”. (notes of Traci Thompson)

Sheriff’s sale of Joseph Pitman dec’d to son Abner Pitman 1788
(reference is made on the second page to this being the former property of Elizabeth Pitman)

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Notes…

The son of Thomas Pitman d.1730, Arthur, leaves an inventory near the area of Meherrin River in 1758… leaving the Arthur who bought the Elizabeth Pitman property in 1761 unexplained. The Meherrin Arthur leaves no will and his inventory is unremarkable with no clue as to possible children or a wife, if indeed he ever married. He is mentioned witnessing a few deeds with brother John Pitman and a will or two. The only other suspect Arthur I know of is the son of Ambrose Pitman.

Ambrose Pitman d. 1786 wife unknown
….. Lucy Haynes
….. Selah
….. Elisha
….. Elijah
….. Arthur
….. Phoebe Ralls
….. Ann Spier
….. Miller (daughter)
….. Zilpha
….. gson Willie
….. son John

The son of Ambrose Pitman was too young to be a player in the 1761 land sale of Elizabeth Pitman.  According to his 1832 RW pension application he was 83 yrs old making his birth about 1749.  He would be 12 yrs old or so…. additionally, an Arthur Pitman was noted in the 1750s Militia Rolls for Edgecombe- one had to be 16 to serve.

Another theory discussed in the comments by Traci is that the land may have been bought by the son or sons of the next door neighbor of Elizabeth Pitman. That would be James Pitman also with a wife named Elizabeth. He just disappears around 1746.

The Arthur Pitman below appears to move to Nash County (Saponey Creek area)… he seems to be associated with the William Pitman who married Judith Ross.

Edgecombe deed book 1 p 89 Edgecombe Co NC: Elizabeth PITTMAN of Edgecombe Co to Arthur PITMAN planter, 26 Sep 1761, 90 acres north side of Tar River…Granville grant to said Elizabeth…May 1749.

20 September 1762 ARTHUR PITMAN of Edgecombe Co., planter to JOSEPH PITMAN of same, planter, for £20 Proc. money a tract of 100 acres on the north side of Tar River adjoining ELIZ. PITMAN, John Fountain and Robert coleman. Wit: Wm. (X) Anderson, Handover (X) Hatcher, John Foundain. DB 1, p. 381.

1 November 1762 William (H) Henry of Edgecombe Co. planter, to ARTHUR PITMAN of same, planter, for 26/6/8 Proc. bills of N.C. a tract of 160 acres on the south side of Sapony Creek on the Great Branch adjoining Stephen Batcheler. Wit: David Pridgen, John (X) Basey, John Fountain. DB 1, p. 493.

20 January 1763 William (X) Hendrick of Edgecombe Co. to Eldread (Eldrick) Hendrick of same, for £10 Proc. money a tract of 120 acres on the south side of Sapony on the Old Place Branch, it being part of a tract of 556 accres granted to said William Hendrick by Earl Granville bearing date Sept 17, 1744. Wit: Thos. Carter, ARTHUR (a) PITTMAN. DB 1, p. 456.

7 January 1765 ARTER PITMAN to WM. PITMAN, £25 Virginia money a tract of land on the south side of Great Sapony Creek and on the Great Branch adjoining Stephen Batchelder. Wit: Thos. Harburt, Wm. Defnell. DB C, p. 434.

7 January 1765 ARTER (X) PITMAN of Edgecombe Co. to WILLIAM PITMAN of same, for £25 Virginia money a tract of 160 acres on the south side of Great Sapony Creek adjoining Stephen Batcheler. Wit: Thos Harbirt, William Defnall. DB 0, p. 147.

ABSTRACT OF WILLS, EDGECOMBE COUNTY, N.C., VOL. I, 1732-1792 by David B. Gammon, 1992, pp 36-37: John Hatcher, 1 Oct. 1765, Jan Ct. 1766, A/153 (Book A, p. 153). Will names son Jeremiah Hatcher, 100 acres at the mouth of the Dividing Branch adj. Hendricks Creek. Wife Dorothy – life estate in my remaining land with reversion to my daughter Sarah Hatcher. Daughter Mary – bed. Son John Hatcher – ten shillings. Wife – lend all moveable estate for her lifetime with reversion to my four children Hancock Hatcher, Jeremiah Hatcher, Sarah Hatcher and Mary Hatcher. To ARTHUR PITMAN – ten shillings. Ex. Hancock Hatcher. Wit: John Miall, Isom Pitman.

This Arthur appears to be a son in law or stepson of John Hatcher.  Hancock Hatcher apparently marries a Watkins and a group moves to Duplin County.

I found a mention in Adventures of Purse and Person, J.F. Dorman, pg. 285…  John Hatcher, son Hancock m. Margaret Watkins, 1763 (Edgecombe marriage bond)…  daughter (?) m. Arthur Pitman (no reference)

Duplin Co., NC, Deeds, Bk. 3, p. 281, as abstracted in Max R. Peterson, Jr., Abstracts

Sampson-Duplin Deeds Books 1-3 (c1750-c1774), p. 122:

Hancock Hatcher, blacksmith, sold to Jesse Wodkins for 10 pounds, 80 acres “on a branch called the Cabbin Branch making Out of the Beaver dam On the East side.” Deed mentions James Wodkins, Robert Bell, and William Bird. Land was “part of a small survey granted to Richard Ratliff by Patent Bearing date” 23 Apr 1762. Wit: Benjamin Bell and Thomas Wodkins.

Note: Hancock’s wife, Margaret, has been found in two different marriage sources as Margaret Watkins and Margaret Wilkins. Note that the above deed mentions Jesse Wodkins, probably Watkins. This could indicate that her name is most likely Watkins.     see here for more details…

http://hatcherfamilyassn.com/getperson.php?personID=I39022&tree=WmtheIm

Here is the proof…

John Watkins To Thomas Carr Deed 13 June 1782

(Transcribed by Joan S Dunn)

Deed Book 1 A Page 35, 36, 37, & 38

John Watkins To Thomas Carr

Deed of 140 acres of lands

State of No. Carolina Duplin County.  This indenture made this thirteenth day of June in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and eighty two, between John Watkins of the County of New Hanover, planter of the one part and Thomas Carr of Duplin County planter of the other part, witnesseth that the said John Watkins for and in consideration of the sum of eighty seven and a half Spanish Mill’d dollars to him in hand paid by the said Thomas Carr at and before the ensealing nad delivery of the presents the receipt whereof he the said John Watkins doth hereby acknowledge and therefore hath granted bargainded sold alined released and eonfirmed and by these presents doth fully and absolutely grant bargain sell alien release and confirm unto the said Thomas Carr and his heirs & assigns forever a certain tract or parcer of land containing by extimation one hundred and forty acres be the same more or less situate lying and being on the West side of the Lin nension Duplin County being part of a tract of land containing four hundred and fifty acres granted (by patent bearing date the 22nd day of July 1774) to Arthur Pitman, which said one hundred and forty acres is butted and bounded as follows.  Begining at a red oak in Garin’s line and running up the said line to a pine, thence up the said line to Turkey Cock Branch, thence up said branch to a poplar thence along a new marked line to a Black Oak, thence along a new marked line to a post oak on the Short Branch 280 poles, thence down the said branch to Byrd Lanneare’s line cornering in a pine, thence up the said line to the corner, thence along Arthur Pitman’s line to the first station, and all houses woods orchard water courses inprovements and appurtenances thence unto belonging or in any wise appertaining and also the reversion and reversions remainder and remainders, rents & services of all and singular the above mentioned premises and also all deeds evidences and writings touching and eoncerning the said premises or any part or parcel thereof.  To have and to hold all and singular the said premises above mentioned and every part and parcel thereof with the appurtenances unto the said Thomas Carr his heirs and assigns the only proper use and behoof of the said Thomas Carr his heirs and assigns doth covenant and grant to and with the said Thomas Carr his heirs & assigns that he the said John Watkins now is the true lawful & rightful of all and sungular the premises above mentioned with the appurtenances & also that he the said John Watkins is lawfully and rightfully siezed in his own right of a good sure perfect absolute and undefeasable estate of inheritance in fee simple  of in and to the premises above mentioned with the appurtenances, whitout any manner of condition mortgage, or in any other matter cause or thing, to allow change or determine the same, and also that he the said John Watkins now hath good rightful power, and lawful authority, to sell and convey the prmises above mentioned, with the appurtenances, to the said Thomas Carr his heirs and assigns forever, according to the true intent and meaning of these presents, and also that he the said Thomas Carr his heirs or assigns shall and may at all times forever hereafter peaceably and quietly have hold occupy possess and enjoy all and singular the above bargained premises and appurtenances without troubel, hindrance, molestation internuption and denials of him the said John Watkins his heirs & assigns and of all and every other person or persons whatsoever and that free’s discharged and indermnifyed, from all former bargains, seals, gifts, grants jointures, mortgages, dowers, uses, wills, tittles troubles and incumbrances wharsoever made, done, committed or suffered by the said John Waktins or any other person or persons whatsoever claiming or to claim by from or under him them or any of them and also the said Jno. Watkins for himself his heirs and assigns doth further covenant and promise to and with the said Thomas Carr his heirs and assigns that he or they shall or will warrant and defend the above bargained land & premises against the claim or claims of all and every person or persons whatsoever and further that he the said John Watkins & his heirs and all and every other person or persons and his her or their heirs, any thing having or claiming in the said premises above mentioned or any part thereof, by from or under him, shall and will from time to time and at all times hereafter upon the reasonable request, and at the cost and charges of the said Thomas Carr his heirs or assigns make do or execute or cause or procure to be made done and executed, every such futher lawful & reasonable act & acts thing & things devise and devises conveyance and conveyances in the law whatsoever, for the further better and more perfect conveying and assuring of all and singular the premises, above bargained, with with the appurtenances to the said Thomas Carr his heirs & assighs to the only proler use and behoof of the said Thomas Carr his heirs & assigns forever as by the said Thomas Carr his heirs or assigns or hims her or their counsl. learned in the law may or shall be reasonably devised or advised or required.  In Witness whereof the said John Watkins hath hereunto set his hand and affixed his seal the day and year first above written.

John Watkins

Received the day and year above written of Thomas Carr eighty seven & an half Sph. Milld. dollars, being the full consideration money for the above bargained premises.

John Watkins

Signed sealed and delivered in the presence of us

W. Sharpless

Dempsey Pitman

State of North Carolina, Duplin County, July Court 1784.

There was the within deed proved in Open Court and ordered to be registered.

Test W. Dickson, C. C.

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Update:

I found remnants of an estate file in Duplin County for one Arthur Pitman, 1814…

 

note the name “Batchelor” on this page…

source: familysearch.org, Estate Files, Duplin County

Since this Arthur is not the son of Ambrose and appears not to be a son of Thomas Pitman d1754 then that leaves open the possibility he was a son of Robert Pitman. Considering his early presence in the militia and his dealings with Joseph Pitman, I consider it likely.

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I’m still pondering the “problem” Pitman.  In previous posts Traci challenged many of my assumptions and left me pretty much as bewildered as ever.  Her major contribution to the conundrum is uncovering a will of one Amy Pitman in 1799… this appears to be a daughter of the mystery Joseph Pitman who was chronicled in the Rich Square MM Quaker books.

So… there appears to be 2 dead, and distinctly different, Joseph Pitmans by 1763.  Neither of which can account for the 3rd adult Joseph at the time of their deaths. Who was he?

I can’t get a handle on whether this 3rd Joseph could actually write his signature… see under the John Gay Page and check the Moses Pitman will… also see the Guardian book of 1769… is the “scrawling” initials his “mark”…   Grrr…. (the obvious question is this the same Joseph as the 1787 will?)

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The Joseph Pitman “problem” may not be as big a deal as I thought it was. These Josephs are hidden in plain sight, as they say. I was convinced that the 1763 and the 1786 were father and son. NOPE, now I don’t think so… here’s why: If the jigsaw puzzle piece does not fit look for another piece… don’t try to trim the piece to fit.

Joseph Sr dies 1763. leaves will, known Quaker………. son of Thomas Pitman of VA, d.1730

Joseph (Jr/the younger) dies about the same time, no will, known Quaker……. son of Thomas Pitman d.1754, grandson of Thomas Pitman of VA, d.1730
………… this man leaves orphan Thomas Pitman, legatee of John Gay
………… daughter Amy leaves will 1799

Joseph, guardian of the legatee of John Gay was the son of Robert Pitman
………. this is the “constable” of Edgecombe County, dies 1787…… father of Abner

The above works… but I had convinced myself that one of the Josephs had to be a brother of Benjamin (this could be the Craven County Joseph who died 1752) ???

Oh and… TRACI WINS THE JOSEPH PITMAN GAME!…YAY!…. I think…

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Joseph Pitman wills…

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Below is a deed from modern Southampton County, VA showing the signature of Joseph Pitman in 1751… the references to “Lancasters” leads me to think this is the son of Thomas Pitman/Elizabeth Lancaster who left his will in 1730. (Meherrin River near the VA/NC border).

This property is likely near the border of Surry County, Isle of Wight and the Blackwater River.  This was the stomping grounds of the early William Pitman and Thomas Pitman.   In other words, this Joseph Pitman could be a son of either.

Note the signature mark “J”.

source: http://www.brantleyassociation.com/pages/southampton_project.htm

The unanswered question is whether the guy above and the guy below is the same person…  is this the son of Thomas Pitman d.1730 or is this the brother of Benjamin Pitman who was more likely a cousin of Thomas Pitman d.1730?

source: familysearch.org website
North Carolina Probate Records, 1735-1970 Edgecombe Wills, 1758-1830, Vol. 08 Image 28 of 291,
Joseph will of 1786 source same… image 24 of 291

Below is 1769… Ann Pitman is guardian of 3 Children of Joseph Pitman “dec’d”   (Joseph “J” Pitman d.1763   wife Ann)

Joseph Pitman is guardian of Thomas Pitman “legatee” of John Gay dec’d  (is this a completely different family?  Is this an unrecorded death of Joseph a son of Thomas Pitman who died 1754?  Is this an account of the Joseph recorded in the Quaker minutes of Rich Square MM?

Joseph Pitman, son of Thomas, b 1-11-1724.

Elizabeth Pitman b. 1-11-1724; d. 3-31-1761.

Ch: Faith b. 10-30-1747.

Amy b. 5-2-1749.

Elizabeth b. 1-4-1752.

Thomas b. 1-10-1754.

Joseph b. 10-8-1756.

Abia b. 3-12-1758.

Patience b. 9-21-1760.

Is the above Thomas the legatee of John Gay noted in the account below?   Who is this third Joseph acting as his guardian? 

1782   This deed appears to me to be a will of sorts… this Joseph is leaving his home property to son in law William Faulk.  Four years later Faulk sells the property for 100 pounds…. note that he only paid five shillings… a nominal amount of money seemingly to legitimize the transaction.  The question is did this Joseph Pitman quietly die intestate after taking care of business?

12 Nov 1782 – To all whom these presents shall come greeting know ye that I Joseph Pitman Senr of the county of Edgecombe in the state of North Carolina for and in consideration of the sum of five shillings current money of North Carolina to in hand paid by William Faulk my son in law and his wife the receipt which I do hereby acknowledge and for and in consideration of the natural love good will and affection I have and bear unto my said son in law William and his wife and divers other good causes and considerations me theretofore (having) hath given granted and by these presents doth freely and absolutely give and grant unto my said son in law William and his wife their heirs and assigns one tract of land containing ninety acres more or less (with) the appuntentures thereafter these (__) belonging and being the land and plantation whereon I now live also one (still) and one crosscut saw one hand saw and (__) carving knife one large iron pot and all my plantation tools (__) (__) (__) to have and to hold the said plantation land and premises aforesaid with the appurtenance respectively unto the said William Faulk and his heirs and assigns to the only proper use benefits and (__) (__) of him the sd William Faulk to him his heirs and assigns forever and (__) Joseph Pitman for my self my heirs (__) the land plantation and premises aforesd with the appurtenances and other articles to the afore mentioned William Faulk (__) his heirs and assigns shall and well warrant and defend forever by these presents in witness whereof I the said Joseph Pitman have hereunto set my hand and seal the 12th day of November anno Domini 1782 – Joseph Pitman – signed sealed and delivered in presence of / (Joel) Horn / Jefse Green (Edgecombe Co NC, Aug Court 1783) Edgecombe Co NC Real Estate Conveyances, 1780-1788, Vol E, 4, c.037.40006, Vol E, page 399     [I think Guy Baker did this transcription…. http://genforum.genealogy.com/faulk/messages/1048.html ]

1780 – Joseph Pitman Sr of Edgcomb Co to William Faulk of same. 29 Apr 1780 3L. 90 acres on the south side of Tar River. Joining the mouth of Deep Branch, Joseph Pitman; also 12 acres which was part of a 340 acre Granville Grant to William Gay 15 Oct 1761 who sold it to Joseph Pitman 2 May 1762, on the south side of Tar River, joining Joseph Pitman Sr, sd William Gay. Wit: Joel Horn, Jethro Pittman. Aug Ct 1780. Edward Hall CC (Edgecombe County, North Carolina Deeds, Vol 3, 1778-1786, Abstracted by Dr Stephen E Bradley, Jr)

1 Jan 1786 – Edge. Co. Db 4, page 363, deed date 1 Jan 1786, recorded Feb Ct 1786, William Faulk, planter, Edge. Co. to Thomas Pitman, planter, Edge. Co. for 100 pounds, all his right to a tract of land containing 90 acres being part of a patent granted to Joseph Pitman bearing date Feb 10, 1750, on the south side of Tar River beginning at a corner sweet gum on the river in the mouth of the Long Branch then up the said branch to a white oak Jethro Pitman’s corner then south along the said line to a corner white oak then easterly to a red oak on the river then up the various courses of the river to the first station, signed William Faulk, wit. Williamson Barnes, D. Battle, Elisha Battle. Abstracted 8-19-03 from NCA film C.037.40014, CTC.

1786   This will… Joseph and Hannah… appears to be the Swift Creek property that Joseph bought of Elizabeth Pitman in 1762.  After some court

actions,  about a hundred acres is acquired by son Abner.

xxx

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Not to forget the Joseph Pitman (brother of Benjamin)… could this be him?

27 Feb 1743    Benjamin Pittman of Nottoway Parish in Isle of Wight to his brother Joseph PIttman, for love and affection  200 acres on SS Main Blackwater adj. Copohunk Branch, Micajah Edwards and James allen.   (Isle of Wight County Deed Book 6, p. 359.)

Notes for JOSEPH PITTMAN:
PITTMAN DATA BANK is the collaborative work of hundreds of genealogists who have written to me in the years since 1985. This compilation of the descendants of Joseph PITTMAN of Craven County, N.C. is presented as the most current assessment of these families and is presented here as the groundwork for future research in this area. I do not guarantee that every assumption is accurate, and I heartily encourage all readers to submit any information that will improve upon it. The material will be reviewed and updated as often as new information is received. Remember, this genealogy has been compiled from both published references and private researchers. You should carefully verify any information that you decide to use in your own lineage. 
Beverly C. Williamson ( bcw ) cyberbev@earthling.net [ first published to the internet September 2001; last revision 10 September 2001 ].

PITTMAN DATA BANK Family Members: 
.1896 PITMAN Bob & Claire, rpittman@greenvillenc.com; http://www.bobpittmanart.com/ (1999).

From a handwritten lineage sent to me by Bob PITTMAN, seems to have been prepared by “Mrs. W. H. Mason, Oriental, NC. “Joseph PITTMAN (1700-1752) and Elizabeth FERGUSON dau of Adam”

Craven County N. C. Deed & Will Abstracts Book 5 1745-1757 
21 Feb. 1747. Will of Joseph Pitman Craven County……….debts paid

Item: Wife Elizabeth borse called Bunhom, side saddle & Bridle, the use of my Negro woman Tempy during her natural life & after her death sd Tempy & her increase to be divided between son Southey PITTMAN & the child my wife now goes big with.

Item: Obedience PITTMAN & Juliana Pittman my plantation I now live on to be devided by a stait line to begin at Sandy Point & __________run a straig Course to a small Tarkill that binds on the road that leads into the Main road the way to South River & from afd. Tarkilt to continue a strait Course thr_______ my land, & that part of the land lying next to my Dwelling house & Orchard be given to my Son Joseph & the other part lying next to John Mason layed. of for Son Obedience

Item: Son John PITTMAN plantation that I lately bought of Francis HILL , 50 Ac

Item: Son Mark PITTMAN 50 Ac I bought of Francis HILL commonly known as Upperneck

Item: Son John PITTMAN 1 mare called Snip & a Gun 
Item: Son Joseph PITTMAN 1 Young Mare & Gun

Item: Son Mark PITTMAN a Gray Mare Called Spirit & Gun 
Item: Son Thomas PITTMAN my Young Bay Mare & Gun

Item: Son Southy PITTMAN my Gray Mare Called Flower & a Gun 
Item: Son Thos PITTMAN Negro Boy George

Item: Son Joseph PITTMAN Negro man Ceesar

Item: Son John PITTMAN Negro man Sipp but if he should Behave himself in a Stubborn Manner & run away then my will is that afd. Negro man be sold by Exr. & money to be Kept for use of afd. Son John PITTMAN until he arives to lawful age

Item: Rest of Estate to be divided among my Wife & the Child she now goes bigg with & my other 6 Children.

Viz: Obedience, John, Joseph, Mark, Thomas & Southy

Item: If either son should die in his minority or without heir his share of given him to fall to the Eldest of my sons then living that has no land given him in this Will.

Exx: Wife Elizabeth PITTMAN. Wit: John CUMMINGS, Charles REW, Comfort REW, Southy REW. Craven County Ct. Aug 1752 proved by Southy REW & Exx. Qualified. Phil. 
SMITH Cl. Cur.

DEED Francis HILL Craven County to Joseph PITMAN of Craven County 1 January 1742 
To all Christian people to whom these presents Shall Come Greetings Know ye that I Francis HILL of N.C. in the County of Craven weaver for and in Consideration of the Sum of Thirty pounds Current money of said province to me in hand paid by Joseph PITMAN of the County and province aforesaid the Receipt of which I do hereby acknowledge and myself their with fully satisfied and Contented and of every part and parcel thereof do Exonerate and Discharge the said Joseph PITMAN his Heirs Exer. Adm. Forever by these presents have Given Granted bargained Sold alienated Conveyed and Confirmed and by these presents do freely fully and absolutely Give Grant bargain Sell Convey and Confirm unto the said Joseph PITMAN his Heirs and assigns forever Certain message and Tract of Land situate lying and being on the South Side of Nuse River on the east Side Adams Creek in the County and province aforesaid Butted and bounded as follows Beginning at a pine the Eastermost Corner tree between the said Joseph PITMAN and Said Francis HILL thence runing down the branch about West to the Middle Swamp thence back up the Said Middle Swamp to my head line and along the same to the first Station Containing thirty acres be the Same more or less being part of patent dated the 25th day of July Anno Dom. 1716 under the hand of the Honorable Charles EDEN Esq. Bovernor at Sixpence ____ hundred quit Rents TO HAVE AND TO HOLD the said granted and bargained premises with all the appurtenances priviledges and Comidities to the Same belonging as all woods standing and lying and all houses Ordhards fields Gardens fening (sic) water and water Courses with all other benefits and Advangages to the Same belonging or in any wise appertaining or belonging to him the said Joseph PITMAN his heirs and assigns forever to his and their proper use benefit and behoof forever and I the Said Francis HILL for me my heirs Exec. and Adm. Do Covenant promise grant and agree to and with the Said Joseph PITMAN his Heirs and assigns that before the ensealing and Delivery hereof I am the true Sole and lawful owner of the above bargained premises and am lawfully Seized and possessed of the Same in mine own proper Right and Good perfect Absolute Estate of inheritance and have in myself good Right full power and lawful Authority to Grant bargain Sell Convey and Confirm the said bargained premises in manner as above said and the Said Joseph PITMAN his Heirs and assigns Shall and may from time to time and at all times forever here after by Virtue presents lawfully peacebly and quietly have hold use occupy possess and enjoy the Said Devised and bargained premises with the appurtenances and priviledges to the Same belonging free and Clear and freely and Clearly acquited exonerated and Discharged of from all manner of former Gifts Grants bargains Sales leases mortgages will entails or any manner of troubles encumbrances whatsoever and I the said Francis HILL do further Covenant bind myself my heirs Exec. and Adm. Firmly by these presents to Warrant and defend the Said Joseph PITMAN his Heirs and Assigns in quiet and peaceable possession of all and Singular the Said Granted and Devised premises against any just lawful Claim of any person or persons whatsoever – in Withnes whereof I the Said Francis HILL have here unto set my hand and Seal the 1st day of January 1742. signed Francis (E) Hill \ 
Signed Sealed & Delivered In presence of us (no names) 
Acknowledged September Court 1743 (no names) N Routledge Clk. Co.

Webster New World Dictionary: fening water > Fen: low, flat, marshy land, swamp, bog 
The N.C. Gazetteer, page 4: Adams Creek rises in central Carteret County and flows into Craven County where it enters the Neuse River. A canal connecting the headwaters of Adams Creek with Newport River provides access between Newport and Neuse Rivers for the Intracoastal Waterway. For a part of its course Adams Creek forms the boundary between Carteret and Craven counties.

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The Joseph Pitman Game

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Read the post just before this to get a grasp of what this post is about.  With my vast audience I figure at least a dozen people are enthralled by this… maybe 13.

Below is a chronology of the “Court Minutes”, Book 1-4 of Edgecombe County 1757-1790.  I have extracted only the Joseph Pitmans out of the vast Pitman Pie.

The object of the game is to figure out the logical choice as to “who is the Joseph who was most likely left standing to sign the will of William Anderson in 1789.”… or Who is the last Old Phart Joseph left standing in 1788…. whichever, I’m flexible with rules.

The term “Quaker” is used below to identify a family group… while the later children may not be Quakers I still use it as a basis to link them to their earlier forebears and in some cases neighbors.

A distinctly different Joseph is who I refer to as the “Constable”.

Please let me know if you can identify any Joseph who is not connected to the “Quakers” or the “Constable.”

 Got it? Let’s go….

Joseph Pitman

Edgecombe Co., NC, Court Minutes 1744-1762 Book I, GoldenWest Marketing Genealogy, Temple City, CA

[187]   Feb 1757/8

Jos. PITMAN son of Robert (Overseer marked out) Constable in Room of George WIMBERLY

(This is a critical bit of info… this is “the Bailiff” referred to in the research of Donald Gordon. Note also that I have found only ONE Robert Pitman of this era and area. This Joseph was clearly born at least by 1736… I have a bible record of his brother Samuel b.1736. I think Joseph was born a bit earlier.) 

[191]   Feb 1757/8

Philip THOMAS in the room of Joseph PITMAN Overseer

[241]   Jun 1759

Wm. GREEN to Joseph PITMAN Deed prov’d by Jesse GREEN

(Nov. 24, 1758 William Green sold to Joseph Pitman 90 acres on the south bank of Tar River at the mouth of Deep Branch adjoinjng said Pitman…. Wit: Joseph (J) Pitman and Jesse Green.  These 2 Josephs are father and son… the “Quakers”… uh …. I think)

[267]   Sep 1760

Robert COLEMAN is appointed Oversr. of the Road from SWEETENS Landan (sic) on Tar River

to MIALS Bridge on SWIFT Creek.  Ordered that the following hands Work on the same, Towit:

John MOORE          John FOUNTAIN          Wm. ROLLINS          James BROWN

John HATCHER       Joseph PHILIPS          Joshua SIKES           Robert MANOR

Aaron ODUM           Andw. ROSS              John ONEALS           Wm. ANDERSON

Joseph PITMAN       Arthr. PITMAN            James STALLIONS    Gregory STALLIONS

Moses WOODWARD &       Robert COLEMAN

(note the neighbors… particularly William Anderson… these folks are clearly north of Tar River in 1760.  The 2 Josephs noted in [241] above are clearly south of Tar River)

[272]   Dec 1760

The last Will & Testament of Moses PITMAN Deced. was Exhibited by the Exrs. therein named

and at the same time Joseph PITMAN one of the People called Quakers affirmed that he saw the

sd. Moses PITMAN Execute the sd. Will & that he saw Jno. GAY & Jesse GREEN sign the same

as Evidence thereto & at the same Time the Exr. Qualified acco. to Law

  (note the name Jesse Green… see [241] above)

[301]   Sep 1762

Jonathan COLEMAN appointed Guardian of Aaron COLEMAN orphan of Charles COLEMAN

(Robert COLEMAN crossed out) & John MURPHREE & Joseph PITMAN Sec. in the sum of

£200 Proc.

( Jonathan Coleman married the sister of the wife of William Anderson… note the involvement of Joseph Pitman “the Constable”)

[304]   Sep 1762

Deed of Sale from Elizabeth PITMAN to Joseph PITMAN proved by Aaron COLEMAN

(Elizabeth Pitman’s property adjoined William Anderson… note above which Joseph Pitman gave Security for this Aaron……I say the Constable… what do you think?)

[310]   Sep 1761-Dec 1761

Ordred that Joseph PITMAN & John BAILY be appointed Searchers

  (I don’t know where Baily lived?…… sue me.)

[318]   Dec 1761-Mar1762

A Deed of Sale from Elizabeth PITMAN to Arthur PITMAN proved by Sherd. HAYWOOD Esq.

(note the presence of Arthur Pitman in [267] above and the proximity to Joseph Pitman. I say the Constable.)

(…further down the transcrpt)

A Deed of Gift from Henry HORN to Wm. HORN proved by the Affirmation of Joseph

PITMAN a Quaker

(need I point out the obvious? “the Affirmation bit”… Horn was south of Tar River and he was also a Quaker)

[342]   Sep 1762

A Deed of Sale from Arthur PITMAN to Joseph PITMAN proved by Wm. ANDERSON

(see [304] and [267]…. the Constable )

[343]   Sep 1762

A Deed of Sale from William GAY to Joseph PITMAN acknowledged

(William Gay was a Quaker and lived south of Tar River adjoining sd. Pitman)

[347]   Sep 1762

Ordred that the following Persons be a jury to lay off a Road from the foot of the New Bridge

to be built over the Tar river the nearest and most convenient Way into the road that leads

Tarbo. Towit:

(list of names including)   Joseph PITMAN…William ANDERSON

(I’m thinkin’ the Constable)

Edgecombe Co., NC, Court Minutes 1763-1774 Book II, GoldenWest Marketing Genealogy, Temple City, CA

[11]   Jan 1763

John BAILEY & Joseph PITMAN Searchers

(Baily again…where did he live exactly?)

[12]   Jan 1763

Joseph PITMAN constable in the Room of John MURFREE

(I think most folks will agree that being a Quaker came with a “stigma”… I can cite laws, particularly during the early 1700s of Perquimins Precinct/ County that specifically forbade Quakers from holding an office such as Constable.  My hunch is this is the son of Robert)

[18]   Jun 1763

Grand Jury retur’d towit:

Samuel CARTER          Hardyman POPE          James BOAZMANS          James KNIGHT

Joseph STRICKLAND    James WILLIAMS        Soloman NETTLE              Kindred CARTER

Robert WRIGHT            Arthur PHILIPS            Richd. THOMAS                Moses WOODWARD

Elias FORT                  Joseph PITMAN           James WILLIAMSON          John WATKINS

William BRYANT

who being Qualified withdrew to Business

Petit Jury returned &c towit,

(list includes William ANDERSON)

[25]   Jul 1763

Ann PITMAN is appointed Guardian to Ann, Jethro & Chloe PITMAN Orphans of Joseph PITMAN

Deceas’d giving Security in the sum of £500 Proc. Daniel ROSS & Jesse GREEN Security

(Quaker)

[27]   Jul 1763

The last Will & Testament of Joseph PITMAN Decd. was Exibited on Oath by the Exor. &

proved by the Oaths of James HORN & Mary GREEN two of the Subscribing Witnesses thereto

& at the same Time the Exors. were qualified accordg. to Law Ordred &c.

An Inventory of the Estate of sd. Joseph PITMAN was Exhibited on Oath & Orderd &c.

Ordred that Elisha BATTLE Esqr. Joseph SUMNER & Daniel ROSS or any two of them being

first duly qualified meet & divide the Estate of Joseph PITMAN deceas’d among the Widow &

Children of sd. Deceas’d & Return &c.

(Quaker)

[28]   Jul 1763

Ordred that Joseph PITMAN Exor. to the Estate of John GAY Junr? Deced. sell the Perishable

Part of the sd. Estate accordg. Law (sic) for the Benefit of the Devisee.

(Quaker)

[35]   Jul 1763-Oct 1763

Ordred that Anne PITMAN Guardian of the Orpans of Joseph PITMAN have leave to sell the

Perishable Part of the Estate of the sd. Orpahans & return &c. & that she likewise have leave

to sell a Mare and Colt which were of the Estate of the sd. Joseph PITMAN deced. and

not yet divided be sold to pay the Debts of the sd. Joseph & that the sd. Sale be held on

last? Friday in Novemr. next.

(Quaker)

[37]   Oct 1763

The Person appointed to Divide the Estate of Joseph PITMAN deced. havf? made return

Orddred (sic) to be recorded.

Addl. Invy. of Estate of Joseph PITMAN deced. being Ret. adm. to Record.

(see a pattern here?)

[49]   Jan 1764

Acct. Sales of the Estate of Joseph PITMAN Deced. Ord. &c.

(that Quaker thing…)

[58]   Apr 1764

William PITMAN is appointed Constable in Room of Edward LANE Ordred &c.

Lycence is on Mocon granted to Abram ALQUI__ to keep an Ordinary and Victualling house

at his dwelling Plantation he thereupon enterd into Bo__ with Isaac WILSON and Joseph

PITMAN Securities.

(with my concerns of the Quaker “stigma”, I hazard a guess that this may be the son-in-law of Andrew Ross who had property near William Anderson….  but the Ross’ had property in several areas of Edgecombe including the area of the Quaker Josephs.  But I may be blowing smoke because one of the Quaker Josephs served in the militia- 1750s…bottom line… I don’t know about this William guy… see [80] below.)

[66]   Apr 1764

Ordred that Elisha BATTLE, Sherwood HAYWOOD Esqrs __ ___SUMNER or any two of them

divide & settle the Estat_ __ Joseph PITMAN deced. and return &c.

(Quaker)

[70]   Jul 1764

The Persons appointed to divide & settle the Estate of Joseph PITMAN deced. return’d an

acct. thereof which ___ Ordred to be recorded.

(Quaker)

[80]   Oct 1764

A Deed of Sale from John HATCHER & Uxr. to Stephen BATCHEL__ proved by William PITMAN

A Deed of Sale from Robert ARMSTRONG to William PITM__ proved by Joseph PITMAN

A Deed of Sale from Robert ARMSTRONG to William PITM__ proved by Joseph PITMAN

(this is a headbanger because Stephen Batchelor and “a” William Pitman eventually obtained property in Nash Co.  I’ve tried to track this William to a point of frustration very near sobriety… I’m pretty near ticked off)

(I call it Quaker) 

[82]   Oct 1764

Joseph PITMAN is appointed Constable ___ the ensuing Year.

(ahh… the Constable… he must have liked the job)

[83]   Oct 1764-Jan 1765

John BAILEY and Joseph PITMAN Searchers for the Ensuing Year.

(who IS this John Bailey? and what exactly IS a Searcher?)

[87]   Jan 1765

Anne PITMAN Guardian of the Orphans of Joseph PITMAN hath leave to bring in her accts.

with sd. Orphans next Court.

(Quaker)

[92]   Jan 1765

The following Persons are appointed Constables for the ensuing Year, towit,

(list includes) Joseph PITMAN

(job security)

[117]   Jan1766

Anne PITMAN Guardian of Jethro Anne & Chloe PITMAN Orphans of Joseph PITMAN deced.

exhibited on Oath accts. of her Guardianship which were allow’d &c.

Joseph PITMAN Guardian of Thomas PITMAN Orphan of Joseph PITMAN deced. exhibited

his acct. by his Afirmation which was allow’d &c.

(Quaker… the “Afirmation thing”)

[144]   Jan 1767

Joseph PITMAN Execu. of the last Will & Testam__ of John GAY Deceaed Exhibited an acct

Current against the sd. Estate which was approved of and Ordered &c.

(son of the older Quaker)

[178]   Oct 1767

Ann PITMAN (accounts of her Guardianship…)

(Quaker)

[204]   Feb 1769

Joseph PITMAN Guardian of Thomas PITMAN A Legatee to John GAY decd. returned an acct. of

his Guardianship which was approved Ordered &c.

(ditto)

[249]   Feb 1770

Joseph PITMAN Overseer of the Road in the Room of Robert CARLISLE

(dunno… where did Carlisle live?)

[251]   Feb 1770

Joseph PITMAN Guardian of Thomas PITMAN exhibited an Acct. of his Guardianship

(“on Oath who” crossed out) Affermation Ordred &c.

(this could support an argument that he was a Quaker, but then I don’t think I need to)

Anne PITMAN exhibited…account of her Guardianship

  (Quaker)

[274]   Aug 1770

Joseph PITMAN Overseer of the Road in the Room of Robert CARLISLE

(that pesky Carlisle guy again?)

[291]   Feb 1771

Ann PITMAN Guardian of Jethro & Cloe PITMAN Orphans of Joseph PITMAN dec’d

exhibited an Acct. of the Guardianship of the last year which was approved of Ordered &c.

Joseph PITMAN Guardian to Thomas PITMAN Legatee of John GAY decd. exhibited

his account into Court which was aproved. Ordered &c. (sic)

(Quaker)

[297]   Feb 1771-May 1771

Joseph PITMAN is appointed Constable in the Room of Jonathan COLEMAN

(son of Robert… note how I just threw that in?)

[299]   same as above

Robert DIGGES is appointed Overseer of the Road in the Room of Joseph PITMAN

(must have been too busy Constable’in to mess with that Road crap)

[306]   May 1771-Aug 1771

The following Majestrates are appointed to take the List of Taxables for the Present

Year Vizt: (list includes) Joseph PITMAN

( I think a Constable was considered a Majestrate?)

[329]   Feb 1772

Joseph PITMAN (account of Guardianship…Thomas PITMAN)

Anne…(same)

(Quaker)

[348]   May 1772-Aug 1772

Joseph PITMAN (list of Magistrates…similar to above)

(similar to above [306])

[380]   Feb 1773

Ann PITMAN Guardian to Chloe PITMAN Orpan of Joseph PITMAN decd. exhibited

an Acct. of her Guar___ which was approved, Ordered &c.

(Quaker)

[381]   same as above

Joseph PITMAN (account of Guardianship…Thomas PITMAN)

(Quaker)

[405]   Apr 1774-Jul 1774

Joseph PITMAN continued Constable for the ensuing year.

(son of Robert)

[413]   Jul 1774-Oct 1774

Joseph PITMAN (list of Magistrates…to take List of Taxables)

(son of Robert)

EDGECOMBE COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA, COURT MINUTES, 1775-1785, BOOK III, Haun

[18]    Apl 1775

3.   Jonathan COLEMAN is appointed Constable for the ensuing year in the room of Joseph PITMAN.

(son of Robert… don’t forget the Jonathan Coleman connection)

[31]    Oct 1775

A Deed of Sale from Joseph PITMAN & Wife to Thomas TEAT acknowledged.

(where did Teat live?)

[63]    Feb 1779

Joseph PITMAN is appointed Overseer of the Road in the room of Loveless SAVAGE.

____  _____ Robert CARLILE is appointed Overseer of the Road in the Room of Joseph PITMAN.

(this Carlile guy is beginning to irritate me.)

[128]   Feb 1780

Deed of Sale from Joseph PITMAN to William FOLK proved by the Oath of Joel HORN.

Deed of Sale from Joseph PRICE to Moses PITMAN proved by the Oath of Joel HORN.

(Is this Joseph Price related to the Price living next to William Anderson?  actually this Joseph Price lived near the Quakers) (I call this Quakers)

[231]   A Deed of Gift from Joseph PITMAN to Wm. FOLK? proved by Joel HORN.

(William Faulk was the son-in-law of Joseph Pitman of southside Tar River…. Quaker)

[320]   A Grant to Joseph PITMAN.

(hmmm…  I haven’t checked this grant?)

[346]   3. A Deed of Sale from Joseph PITMAN to Abner PITMAN proved by Ethd. PHILIPS.

(according to the research of Donald Gordon…”Joseph who first appears in Edgecombe records as a bailiff of the court had a son Abner (b. 1758) and grandson born 1787″.  …there is a purported bible reference supporting Abner as a son of Joseph the Baliff… but then, that pesky Quaker Joseph also had a son named Abner, noted in his will, 1787.  … what’s your call, Quaker or Constable?)

EDGECOMBE COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA, COURT MINUTES, 1786-1792, BOOK IV, Haun

[67]    The last Will & Testament of Joseph PITMAN was proved by the oaths William EMSON and Frederick TERVATHAN Ord. &c.

(Quaker)

[71]    Feb 1787

Reuben JONES one of the executors named in the last Will and Testament of Joseph PITMAN decd. came into Court and qualified thereto.

Ordered that the perishable estate of Joseph PITMAN decd. be sold by the Exor. according to Law.

(Quaker)

[75]    Apl 1787

Amos PITMAN Orphan of Joseph PITMAN decd. aged Sixteen years is Ordered to be bound apprentice to Timothy MANNING to learn the trade of a Taylor.

(ditto)

[105]   Acct. Sales of the estate of Joseph PITMAN decd. exhibited on Oath by the exor.

(ditto)

[107]   Reuben JONES exor. of Joseph PITMAN decd. return’d his acct. Current agt. the sd. estate on Oath.

(ditto)

[121]   Jan 1788

Charity & Isaac PITMAN Orphans of Joseph PITMEN decd. being of lawfull age came into Court & chose Reuben? JONES Guardian.

(ditto)

[183]   May 1789

28.  A deed of Sale from Joseph PITMAN to Thomas PITMAN proved by Robert SHERROD.

(?) (The Joseph d.1763 left an orphan Thomas… I can’t call this because the 2 Quakers are dead and a pesky young Joseph shows up in an estate sale of an Amy Pitman of 1791 but its obvious this is a young phart that can’t be associated with the distinguished Old Pharts that I’m analyzing. Got it? Good… Let’s continue….)

[238]   May 1790

The Last Will & Testament of William ANDREWS decd. was proved by the Oaths of Elijah HORN & Joseph PITMAN & Elijah PRICE the exor therein qualified and at same time took out Letters Testamty.

(this is William ANDERSON)

[239]   May 1790

Inventory of the estate of William ANDERSON deceased returned on Oath by the exor.

(The will was signed by Joseph Pitman the son of Robert Pitman.   I think they knew each other since childhood and quite possibly were cousins.)  If you think this may be one of the mystery sons of Thomas Pitman from his 1750ish Will then I will just shake my head. Those kids would be young pharts.)

1790 Edgecombe County Census

Joseph Pitman  1 over 16,  2 males under 16,  2 females

(This is the only Joseph Pitman on the census… but if you are one of those who take a look at the neighbors it could easily appear that this guy is living south of the Tar River which would be one of the Quaker clan.  It is pure coincidence.)

Michael Horn

Sarah Barnes

John Pitman

Joseph Price

Ann Horn

Jethro Pittman (son of the Quaker Joseph, d. 1787)

Ann Pittman

Briton Adams

Amos Rose

Sion Trevathan

Frederick Trevathan  (witness to will of 1787…the Quaker)

Wm. Deloach

Wm. Elenor

Joseph Pitman  (son of Robert? or a young phart?)

(Until their senior years, William Anderson and Joseph Pitman lived northside Tar River near Swift Creek and near a little creek called Falling Run.  In 1787 Anderson moved southside Tar River just above the modern Wiggins Lake.  He made his will there. “a” Joseph Pitman was living just west of him.)

Edge. Co. Db 9, page 335, deed date 25 Mar 1797, recorded Feb Ct 1800,

John Haywood, Raleigh, NC to Michael Williams, Edge. Co for $250, a

tract on the west side of Deloachs Branch containing (220) acres being

part of a tract which Joseph Pitman presently lives & being the whole

of the land belonging to the said Haywood on the west side of Deloachs

Branch except that part where Joseph Pitman lives, containing 25 acres,

signed John Haywood, wit S. Haywood, John Hudson. Abstracted 9-27-06,

NCA film C.037.40009, CTC.

(the only Joseph this could be is the son of Robert… who was in the 1790 census, being that he was an Old Phart… otherwise it is a young phart.)

Got it?

Written by anderson1951

January 11, 2012 at 8:24 pm

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the “widow” Pitman

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A couple commenters disagree with my theory of Elizabeth Pitman.  That is primarily why I chose this “blog” format- it allows for a healthy back and forth discussion- “peer review” if you will.  I encourage it and respect your opinions.  With that being said…
Under the Page “that Pitman gal” my theory is that Elizabeth Pitman is not the blood daughter of Elizabeth Anderson but the daughter of Thomas Pitman…  “Good Lord you blithering idiot”, you may ask, “anyone in their right mind can see she was the legitimate daughter of Elizabeth Anderson and had a son out of wedlock”.  Hugh B. Johnston even spelled it out:
Children of James and Elizabeth Anderson:
1. James Anderson
2.  Carrolus Anderson
3.  Elizabeth Anderson married ___Pitman
I disagree with him. I’ve disagreed with J. B. Bodie and I’ve pretty much accused Grimes of “abstracting while under the influence”.  But I can take it as well as dish it out.  I also have a sense of humor.  Try transcribing some colonial documents with a “spell checker” active and see if you can keep from laughing.
But back to my ludicrous theory which I so doggedly defend…
A dozen years ago I ran across this quote:
From the research of Donald Gordon (a Pittman descendant):
Thomas Pitman,of Monmouthshire, England, fled England during the Cromwell rebellion and landed in Virginia in 1649. He purchased land in Surry County, Virginia and had two sons Thomas and William. This grandson, the third Thomas moved about 1707 to Isle of Wight County. His daughter Elizabeth and son Robert, with Robert’s two sons, Samuel and Joseph moved to Edgecombe County North Carolina about 1738. Deeds in Edgecombe County show Robert, Samuel, Joseph and Elizabeth holding several hundred acres in the area North and West of Tarboro. Joseph who first appears on Edgecombe records as a bailiff of the court had a son Abner (b. 1758) and grandson born 1787. By this time the Pitmans became Pittmans and all spelled their name with two tees . The Pittmans held land North of Leggett stretching into southern Halifax County. Here Joseph and his wife Mary had a son Henry Elias born 1828. In 1850 Henry married Lucy Anderson who in 1852 gave birth to Biscoe Pittman who married Martha Alice Walston. To this marriage was born, as the last of eight children, Hobson Lafayette Pittman (1899) at Epworth.
While I can nitpick the “Thomas Pitman,of Monmouthshire, England, fled England during the Cromwell rebellion and landed in Virginia in 1649” bit… the part I have in bold is right on the money.  His daughter Elizabeth and son Robert, with Robert’s two sons, Samuel and Joseph moved to Edgecombe County North Carolina about 1738.  Furthermore I have proved it in my Pages.  The proof for Joseph Pitman, son of Robert, may be one of the most mind-numbing excursions into genealogy that you don’t want to take- but it is there.  The proof for Samuel Pitman was child’s play:
Source:  Henry and Harriett Turner Higgs Pittman Family Bible Records, page 20    http://digital.ncdcr.gov/cdm4/document.php?CISOROOT=/p15012coll1&CISOPTR=6082&REC=1
Robert Pitman is easily traced in Halifax.  Elizabeth Pitman not so much… but here she is in 1744:
So… I think Elizabeth Pitman had an illegitimate son William Anderson and may not have ever married.  Folks may have snickered when they called her “widow Pitman”.  I think the Pitman that got her land was her nephew.  Or I could be wrong…  But Donald Gordon was right.  And the son of Robert Pitman witnessed the will of William Anderson.

Written by anderson1951

January 4, 2012 at 8:39 pm

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the Problem Pitman updated

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See to the right under “Pages”… I have made my point more comprehensible…  (I am a graphic artist by trade, a writer by wishful thinking).

The point?   The Joseph Pitman who signed the will of William Anderson d. 1789 was the son of Robert Pitman of Halifax, Co, NC.  

Update… now I don’t think so… that is why I call him the Problem Pittman…

Why is it important?  Because it lends an incredible amount of credibility to this account:

From the research of Donald Gordon (a Pittman descendant):

Thomas Pitman,of Monmouthshire, England, fled England during the Cromwell rebellion and landed in Virginia in 1649. He purchased land in Surry County, Virginia and had two sons Thomas and William. This grandson, the third Thomas moved about 1707 to Isle of Wight County. His daughter Elizabeth and son Robert, with Robert’s two sons, Samuel and Joseph moved to Edgecombe County North Carolina about 1738. Deeds in Edgecombe County show Robert, Samuel, Joseph and Elizabeth holding several hundred acres in the area North and West of Tarboro. Joseph who first appears on Edgecombe records as a bailiff of the court had a son Abner (b. 1758) and grandson born 1787. By this time the Pitmans became Pittmans and all spelled their name with two tees . The Pittmans held land North of Leggett stretching into southern Halifax County. Here Joseph and his wife Mary had a son Henry Elias born 1828. In 1850 Henry married Lucy Anderson who in 1852 gave birth to Biscoe Pittman who married Martha Alice Walston. To this marriage was born, as the last of eight children, Hobson Lafayette Pittman (1899) at Epworth.

note:

Marc,
I checked the Pittman file at the Blount Bridgers house – The item you had was an exact quote from the paper by Donald Gordon who was a nephew of the artist Hobson Pittman. There is no other information about Elizabeth and Donald’s research was not documented. He came down through Abner and Joseph’s lines which he worked on. (Monika Fleming, Tarboro, NC)

Simply put, I think Mr. Gordon may have had the luxury of speaking with some older relatives and related their memories and family tradition.  That is surely hearsay but if it can afterwords be proven then it becomes fact.   Robert with two sons Samuel and Joseph DID move to Edgecombe about 1738.

The Elizabeth Mr. Gordon mentions is the subject of my Page “that Pitman gal”.  Again, simply put, I have not proven that “theory”.

For some reason I can’t comprehend, one of my commenters has posted some thoughts concerning my theory of that Elizabeth Pitman and William Anderson.

http://genforum.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/print.cgi?pitman::1617.html

I just shake my head.

Guy… chill out, its a hobby.

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(from an older post)…  perhaps this is the new problem Pitman…

James Pitman 1740s

I’ve previously identified some of his land being below the Anderson property near Swift Creek and adjacent the Elizabeth Pitman property.  My current thought is that this is a non-issue in that he promptly sold the property shortly after acquiring it and probably never lived there.

Edgecombe County Land Records:

p. 216: James Pitman and Elizabeth Pitman of Edgecombe Co. to JOHN STALLINGS of Edgecombe Co., 21 February ____, 20 pounds current money of

Virginia. 200 acres on north side of Tar River, joining Falling Run.    Witness: Abram Evans, Robert Coleman, Jr., Thomas Woodard. Registered: Feb Court, 1743.

James is noted here after 1744

1769       20 Feb. Benjamin (B) Lane and wife, Mary, of Edgecome Co., planter , to Newit Lane of same, planter, £60 Proc money two tracts of land: (1) 100 acares on the north bank of Tar River a little above Green’s Path, it being part of a patent for 200 acres granted to Thomas Brown on 2 Mar 1744, conveyed by said Brown to JAMES PITMAN, conveyed by said Pitman to Nathaniel Bradford, and conveyed by said Bradford to said Benjamin Lane; (2) 35 acres adjining the aforesaid tract on the ban of Tar River at the mouth of Little Creek, it being part of another survey. Wit: William Chapman, Robert (X) Young, Edward Lane. DB D, p. 69.

I’ve since found another reference that could also be this James Pitman:

NC Records (Online MARS)

1742   Book 5, pg 340  (this isn’t the Edgecombe Book 5, pg 340) ?

File No. 536, James Pitman

May 5, 1742, 200 acres…”S. side of Sapponey creek”

(Sapponey Creek is in present Nash County. In 1742 Edgecombe went all the way to the Mississippi River.)

Edgecombe

1742   Book 5, pg 359

File No. 551, James Pitman

May 15, 1742, 200 acres… “S. side of Sapponey Creek”

Edgecombe

1742   Book 10, pg 211

File No. 935, James Pitman

May 5, 1742, 200 acres… “The So. side of Soppony Creek”

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Update….

This may be Samuel Pitman (the son of Robert of Halifax) born 1736.

See page 20 of this bible reference…    http://digital.ncdcr.gov/cdm4/document.php?CISOROOT=/p15012coll1&CISOPTR=6082&REC=1

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