Andersons of Colonial N. Carolina

A lost patent for Richard Braswell to be precise. I did a prior post for this Bryant fella and tracked some of his Isle of Wight/Southampton, VA land holdings. I’ve ventured into his history a bit now and see it is likely he was the father in law of Richard Braswell as well as John Dew and Mathew Selar. (per his will of 1731)

This stellar bit of detective work on my part came about not thru my Holmesian insights but merely sheer dumb luck… I was looking for a missing patent for Mr. Braswell and ran across a deed from 1740 that lays out the sordid details…

I have still not found the missing Braswell deed from 1706 but feel compelled to share the James Bryant info… which I shall do...Viszt… as they used to say… (a little colonial history there as Rush used to say…)

The pertinent details start out thusly: William Bryant and wife of Edgecombe County to Thomas Uzzell of Nansemond County, Va. May 20, 1740. 1000 pds. for “a certain plantation” plus 100 A. Land on NS Meherrin River “being plantation whereon James Bryant formerly Lived and part of the patent Granted to Richard Braswell... so you see I am not pulling your leg…

Like I say… I am still looking for that damn missing patent… you folks may poke and prod thru the sordid details as you see fit… my footnoting and source details are horrendous at best and I offer no excuses other than to advise you to simply deal with it…

This is the general area where I think James Bryan[t] was living ca. 1708…

A John Britt is mentioned in one of the references as well as a “Duke” guy which I also cannot find… that is primarily why I suspect the land is in this specific area (but then, this Britt placement can be changed if necessary) it is a guess right now…

Putting on my “historian’s cap”… isn’t it interesting that in 1706 and 1708 when Braswell assigned this land to Bryan[t] that the 1710 Tuscarora “war” had not yet taken place. It was only after the Indians were no longer a threat that the floodgates for settlement were opened. Note in one of the patents shown below for John Dew (near Kerby’s Creek) that mention is made of the “Roanoke path”. I suspect that was the original “Indian Trail” leading to the Occoneechee Neck and perhaps Foltera Fort. It just seems like a lonely place in 1706… except for Indian Traders… and their cohorts.

To add a bit more complexity to this mystery… note the “William” Braswell in the map lower right above… in the references to Bryant in 1714 he is dealing with this William Braswell/wife Mary… is he selling him property? Any one have any insights to what was going on? just curious…

a prior post:

Ca…late 1600s / early 1700s. Ken Brantley rattled my cage about this guy.

I’m pretty neutral at this moment… meaning I have not formed any opinions about this guy. So my initial comments right now are strictly about his land… and nothing about “him”, if that makes sense? I have no dog in this fight.

None of his patents have a “t” at the end of his name.

I hazard a guess that the 1689 patent “on the Blackwater River” was deserted by said James Bryan. My reason is obvious… note that William West got the land in 1705. Also because Bridgman Joyner and Henry Applewaite also deserted the land. correction… commenters have stated Bryan held on to the 1689 land and later sold it off (I stand corrected and have revised my map)

Note Philip Brantley in the upper Left Corner. (my reason for this particular map)

I’ll also include this patent because it references the name James “Brian” and is adjacent in 1692. It seems to me this gives a clue to how his name was pronounced in 1700s… for what its worth. This particular patent is perplexing because I do not see any way for me to draw in the missing parts to include going from “Beaver Dam” to “Kingsale” to the beginning? … a head scratcher… welcome to my world. (smiling)

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Note for the 1702 patent. I was mistaken that the 1702 patent which was adjoined by Richard Williams was for a “Samuel” Bryant… I now am convinced it was this JAMES Bryant.

David Boyett has chimed in with the theory that the early Bryans(t)s may have been imported as indentured servants via Britton England… he has some links to his site in the comments…

The 1652 patent to John Bryan (possibly the “Agent” who did the importing) is referenced by this map which shows my attempt to find “Indian Creek” which was a branch of the Nansemond River.

I will attach the John Bryan 1652 patent which references William Storey and John garrett.

James Bryan in North Carolina. The 2 Chowan patents.

from this source:

This patent is not to be found in Nugent’s Cavaliers and Pioneers which caused some relief to my consternation and confusion when Jennifer from California found it by one of those horrid, tedious page by page searches. Several aspects of the patent and its subsequent re-patent 10 years later are becoming important for a better understanding of the immigrant John Bryant.

My theory of this guy assuming room temperature in 1680 is proving controversial and hard to swallow for my cohorts… and I am feverishly attempting to gather my notes and mount a defense … to “prove it, dammit”… so to speak. I get a kick out of this sort of thing…the bodies of deceased John Bryans are beginning to pile up (in my mind at least) so some ‘splainin’ is in order.

One important aspect of this patent of 1672 is that it relocates the immigrant from his lair at Indian Creek (since at least 1652) and moves him about eight mile or so southwest (and perhaps importantly) across the border from Nansemond to Isle of Wight. That is why so many records show up for this guy… otherwise he would have been hopelessly vaporized in the burned embers of the three Nansemond fires.

Also of import is the neighbor Thomas Mason…I am just beginning to figure him out.. I really can’t comment on him except to mention I have a “hunch” he married into the Bryant line. He shows up in too many deeds to be an idle bystander. He seems to be a contemporary of the old man… note that he received his 1000 acre patent in 1666… a few years before Bryan. Bryan will later begin to buy in to this land… as also will some descendants.

Below is the nitty gritty details of the two patents… again, finders credit to Jennifer Thornton.

Click the filename (in blue) under the image for a larger image to zoom…

The strange dotted line in the 1682 patent is just to draw attention to the errors present and in contrast to the original 1672 patent. There is just no way a “pretty” match is going to present itself on a map.

Now go back to the Post below this one and see if it might make more sense that a John Bryan died in 1680.

Note also that I mentioned a “testamentary deed”… my friend David Gammon turned me on to that term… likewise Traci the Librarian once scolded me (correctly so) for using the term “will” when I referred to a deed.

I noted in the prior Post that “a” John Bryan issued that “testamentary” deed to his son in 1725. It was written in the deed that the property did not become “owned” by the son until the death of his father and mother.

With that said, note the specifics of this deed of 1731:

Is it not clear to be seen that both the John Bryan (of 1725 deed AND his wife) are deceased by 1728… as is stated above when the son gave the land to his brother? The son could not dispose of the land unless his father was dead.

Now let me kill another John Bryan in 1710. At that date Needham Bryan “conveyed” 170 acres to James Nolliboy. (Needham’s brother John Bryan was involved… which just confuses the matter). The property being sold was noted in 1710 as “being formerly granted John Bryan Deced Bearing date …1682″.

This is where I get to eat some crow. Try as I might, I just cannot make a case for a John Bryan wedged in between one who died between 1680 and 1682 and his son who died in 1728.

Luckily I found instructions…

This is critical to understand… if I am correct that the immigrant died in 1680… then the person being referred to here in 1682 is his son. And he is also dead as is referenced “part of a patten of 344 acres formerly granted John Bryan Deced Bearing date…1682″. If my reasoning is flawed, it is the fuzziness surrounding the patent of 1682… the old man could not have “devised” it in 1682 if he was dead in 1680.

Here is the smoking gun…

Well… at least we have successfully proven the demise of the immigrant. However…that just sounds downright weird.

A Jno: Bryan was one of three headrights for Robert Saven in his patent of 1653. Curiously, John Bryan had received his own patent in 1652. I’m not sure what to make of this. By my map calculations these people were only a few miles apart and each in Nansemond. The John Bryan with the patent of 1652 renewed his patent in 1664 – this was not unusual; a sort of grace period was allowed for a colonist to establish himself before having to pay his “rent”. The fact that the headright of Robert Saven shows up a year after the patentee of the same name does not bother me that much logistically… it can easily be the same man. It forms a basis to reasonably conclude that John Bryan was imported to Nansemond “around” 1652 or so. He did not “have” to be an indentured servant to Robert Saven; other arrangements might have been made we are not privy to.

I have just ran across the website of Stephen Ballard where he has dug up some info where that John Bryan apparently transported a couple of “servants” which do not fit on my radar screen. This just rattles my cage. This even causes me to spit out completely unnecessary and irritating analogies.

First my map to orient the actors in this play and then Stephen’s take on the happenings from his point of view…

Stephen Ballard’s take:

“John Bryan’s activities in the Virginia colony are worth noting.

John Bryan patented 168 acres on Indian Creeke, a branch of Nansemum river, joining to patent of Mr. John Garrett, running for length north butting on line of William Storey & c. 15 October 1652,³  Transfer of 4 persons: William Scott, Grace Harris, John Merr, Anne Stonewall.⁴   He renewed this patent on 17 August 1664.⁵

Jon Bryan was named a headright in a patent taken by Robert Saven for 150 acres in “Nanzemond County” on 11 June 1653,⁶

John Bryan patented 200 acres in Upper Norfolk County on 18 March 1662,⁷ , at south side of the west branch of Nancimond River, lying at south side of Indian Creek, running by Mr. Wm. Denizens &c.  Renewal of patent dated 20 March 1659.⁸

Jno. Bryan patented 200 acres in Upper Norfolk County, 18 March 1662,⁹ south side of the west branch of Nancimum River on both sides of the Indian Creek, running by Mr. William Densons line &c.  Renewal of patent dated 20 March 1659.¹⁰  He sold this tract to John Moore, who renewed a patent for it on 11 March 1664.¹¹

John Bryan renewed a patent dated 15 October 1652 for 168 acres on the Nansemond River at Indian Creek.¹²  Seven years later, on 15 August 1659, we see that John Ballard and Lewis Brian, both of Bitton in Glocestershire, were bound to “John Brian, planter, to serve in Virginia: Lewes [Lewis] Brian of Bitton, Glos, yeoman, for 4 years; John Ballard of Bitton, Glos for 6 years.”  On 24 August 1659, “Jon Boulton of Bitton, Glos, bound to John Brian, planter, to serve 4 years in Virginia.” Wilson, p. 433.

We do not find John Bryan claiming John Ballard as a headright.”

Myself, Jennifer from California and David Gammon have been slowly and meticulously gathering notes on these Bryan fellas. We have mostly concluded that Lewis Bryan was the son of John Bryan 1652 so this puts a wrinkle in our ironing… (Lord I do seem to have a problem with these irritating analogies).

Meanwhile, we are on the hunt! to verify these indentured servants… or dismiss this as utter nonsense… whichever. Let loose the hounds… (groan).

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In the comments it has been suggested that one of the Bryans used an image of an “anchor” in conjunction with his signature. Of course a tale like that is just TOO much to pass up. Jennifer had previously spied that “strange” mark and we discussed it… she going so far as to work up several comparisons… alas, we came to the conclusion he was indeed illiterate and just got a kick out his weird “mark”. Jennifer seems pretty adamant with her opinion… I just go along to get along…

Including Bridgers Creek and Uraha Swamp. My main focus with this map is a question: Is this James Bryan the man who hailed from Isle of Wight / Nansemond?

I will include a link to a prior Post…

https://andersonnc.com/?s=james+bryan

The son in law of that James Bryan was Richard Braswell. He had a son William, who importantly, was not included on his will, because…well, he was dead’rn a doornail. My hunch is that the William Braswell shown on my map is “that” Wm Braswell, which would make him the grandson of James Bryan of IOW / Nansemond. Got it? good… I barely can keep up.

That “simple” question I am asking can clear up some questions several of us are actively researching at the moment.

Also are the other Bryans who need to explain themselves pronto…

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A look at the will and witnesses for clues…

Aaron Drake does not leave a will I can find and his whereabouts were unknown in 1731…

a John Mack Daniel is a mystery… (I thought this may be a son of Daniel McDaniel on Uraha Swamp)

a dead end for now…

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A sidenote…

Note the patent for Hester Kerby… this gal almost gave me whip lash… I have a couple patents for her and her husband near modern Hertford County and Northampton… indeed, there is a Kirby’s Creek, just to drive the point forward. What and why might they move… also, a woman usually could not patent land in her name unless she was a widow or single (as Traci the Librarian tells me). The I noticed that Rich Square was near by… perhaps there is a Quaker tale to be found here?

Also note the patent for Hardy Council… this guy obviously descends from the Isle of Wight Councils… what interests me is that he appears to be an Indian Trader. He also has a patent just north of the Meherrin Indian tract of land noted on the Moseley map of 1733. Just Google “moseley map 1733” and a great link pops up for the map…well worth the effort. I will soon be uploading my recent work on this overall Chowan “Precinct” map… stay tuned.

Now my obligatorye rants, as I am want to do…

Note the usual castletrash pigs feeding at the trough, Thomas Pollock and his associate William Maule. These guys are the exact same type of government toadies as we have today… Nothing has changed in 300 freaking years. They just nonchalantly fill their pockets with whatever loot they can get there slimy little hands on… in this case land. See Nancy Pelosi…good god that woman gets my goat. I could go on but I will spare you…

James Pitt was the son of John Pitt (will 1702) the son of the immigrant Robert Pitt (will 1672).  James is noted in his father’s will of 1702. The next hard evidence I find is his mention in the Newport Vestry book in 1743. The last mention (which may or may not be him) is in 1779.  “ORDER BOOK 1768- 1797 Mar 1779 – Patience Pitt exr. Of James Pitt deceased VS. Robert Eley”.  The burning question is when was this guy born? Common sense has to be thrown out… this guy was a mere babe in arms in 1702 or else he was in his 90s in 1779… or older!  His brother Henry died in 1718/19… brother John died 1729. Did he have good genes or what?

So I’m following him in deeds and property… and he seems to be there in the shadows…

2 immigrants shown… Robert Pitt in blue… Henry/son Thomas Pitt in green:  These are primary source patents. I purposely try to avoid any land swaps between folks just to allow the original patents to speak for themselves… and to keep the map simple.  If you are in a hurry just scroll to the bottom of this post for the nitty gritty of 1743.

Note the Thomas Godwin property just northward of Robert Pitt’s 1200 acre patent… I have to place it there because of the other references to other patents but it actually may be below the PITT patent.

At a Court held for Nansemond County April 9th, 1750.
THOMAS GODWIN and JOHN GODWIN, the Executors named in the LAST WILL AND
Testament of THOMAS GODWIN, Gent: deced, refusing to take upon them the
bother of the execution thereof; on the motion of MARGARET GODWIN, relict of
the said THOMAS GODWIN dec’d who made oath according to law: certificate is
granted for her obtaining letters of Administration on the estate of the sd.
THOMAS GODWIN with his said will annexed in due form:  Whereupon she with
EDMOND GODWIN, John Reade, James Pitt, and JOSHUA GODWIN, her securities
entered into bond for that purpose.

Aside from the fact that the principles of the will “didn’t want to be bothered with the execution thereof” … James Pitt showed up and did his bit “for that purpose”… good for him.  But I have digressed into the future, back to 1730s…

Researching the Godwin families would be a daunting task I haven’t found time for… but for my Pitt purposes the father in law for James Pitt would have to be one of the early guys. Here is an interesting site:

https://archive.org/stream/jstor-4242037/4242037#page/n3/mode/2up

Of particular interest is the Bible account of a later Rogers descendant on page 200… since the “known” birth of that Joseph Godwin is precisely Sept 8, 1713 then this cannot be the Joseph I refer to who died in 1757. My reasoning is that James Pitt would be older than his father in law. Not impossible, but irritating to me. Hence the Joseph d. 1757 should be from a generation before.  And note these guys are referred to as “Nansemond” folks. Alternatively, if the Joseph Godwin b. 1713 IS the one whose will is written 1757 with daughter Patience then it is almost certain proof that there is a missing James Pitt between 1703 and 1779.

Bible references are PDGE… pretty damn good evidence, but then some people have some lingering doubts that need to be substantiated with facts… sort of like me.

Another fact-filled site for the GODWIN line is here:

http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/c/a/s/Pervis-J-Casey/GENE16-0001.html

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Since I am tracking the land to establish this James Pitt and several land owners are needed for reference which DO NOT show up in the Virginia “Patent” records I will have to paint a word picture.  Thomas Godwin had land adjoining the PITT plantation. Also Andrew Munro (the minister) and his son John Munro evidently had about 600 acres.  If you put the pieces together below… you can see that they all were in close proximity to one another… namely around modern Brewers Creek and crossing over the Nansemond line.

Notes for ANN PITT:

PITT, John: Leg. daughter Martha, the land on which Captain Joseph Bridger

now lives; grandson Joseph Bridger, the land on which John Turner

now lives; daughter Rachel, the land on which Ann Smith now lives,

also the land on which Elizabeth Shaw lives; daughter Esther; daugh-

ter Prudence, the land on which Edward Driver and Robert Smith live;

daughter Ann Godwin, the land on which William Godwin and Samuel

Croom live; grandson William Bridger. Ex., William Godwin. D. De-

cember 19, 1729. R. February 24, 1734.

Wit: Edward Driver, Richard Pilkington. Will Bk #4 Page 43

She married WILLIAM GODWIN, son of THOMAS GODWIN and MARTHA BRIDGER. He was born 1689? in Nansemond County Virginia, and died Abt. 1736 in Isle Of Wight County Virginia.

William Godwin.  Will dated and probated in 1736,

mentions his wife, Ann (Pitt) and children.

“(p. 709) 28 Jun 1725…. William Godwin and His wife , Ann Godwin, of Nansemond County to William Wilkinson of Isle of Wight…. one grist mill and 1 acre of land in the lower parish on Chucatuck Creek (being land bought by Col. Thomas Godwin from Samuel Ferment). 

Wit: Joseph Godwin, James Godwin and Richard Rndyard. William Godwin, Ann (X) Godwin.”

Isle of Wight Deeds, Wills – Vol. 2 1715-1726. p.709.    Hopkins abstract

Children of ANN PITT and WILLIAM GODWIN are:

i. BARNABY9 GODWIN, b. Bef. 1736, Isle Of Wight County Virginia; d. Abt. 1789, Edgecombe County North Carolina.  m. _____ Wilkinson

ii. WILLIAM GODWIN, JR., m. SARAH.

Marriage Notes for WILLIAM GODWIN and SARAH:

“(p. 295) 1 Feb 1749… William Godwin and wife, Sarah Godwin, of Suffolk Parish in Nansemond County to Thomas Bullock Of Newport Parish in Isle of Wight… 100 acres in Newport Parish (being the land said Godwin lately lived on) adjoining Robert Driver, William Dixon, Barnaby Godwin and William Bullock (being a patent granted Godfrey Hunt for 600 acres who sold it to Henry Rones (?) of Rappahannock County who sold 200 acres on 19 Dec 1688 to Thomas Godwin of Chuckatuck in Nansemond County and he willed it to his son, William Godwin the father of the said William Godwin whos willed it to his sons William Godwin and Barnaby Godwin in equal parts of 100 acres). 

Wit: Benjamin Beal, Lyndia Beal and Jonas Shevers. William Godwin

Rec. 1 Feb 1749″        Hopkins

iii. GEORGE.

iv. PITT GODWIN.

v. JOHN GODWIN.

Thomas Godwin Nans 3 May 1712/27 May 1714

Wife Martha Godwin land purchased of Thomas Jordan. Son Thomas Godwin. Son 

Joseph Godwin and his two sons Joseph Godwin and Thomas Godwin land purchased 

of Mr. Richard Prestwood. Son Edmund Godwin land purchased ot Mr. Scott and

Mr. Butler. Son William Godwin land purchased of Henry Johnson and Barnaby

Kearny and a parcell next to Bunchley. Two daughters Elizabeth Godwin and

Martha Godwin. Son James Godwin land purchased of William Carter and Mr.

Joseph Ashley. Three youngest children viz William Godwin, James Godwin and

Mary Godwin. Wit: Barnaaby Kearne, John Gray, James Snowden, John Kinder,

James Webb.

Item. I give to my son Joseph Godwin and his two sons Joseph & Thomas the Plantation houses & orchard wherein He lives and land purchased of Mr. Richard Prestweed excepting sixty acres thereof for the use of the ——plantation aforesaid for fireweed and fencing, I say unto my son Joseph Godwin and his aforesd. sons and the heirs male of their bodys or the survivor of them forever, and the sixty acres aforesd. to take its length along Col. Pitts’ line to the mal_____ __. 

(Note that I do have a Patent for Richard Prestwood on my map above…. so “one way or another” Joseph Godwin acquired at least a part of that land! This is the guy who I think is the father in law of James Pitt).

Note these three witnesses to Thomas Godwins will of 1712…

In testimony and witness whereof I hereunto set my hand and fix my seal this third day of May anno domi, one thousand seven hundred and twelve.

Signed sealed, published

and delivered by ye testater Thomas Godwin, (SEAL)

to be his last will & testament

in the presence of us

Bar: Keaene 

John (X his Mark) Gray

James (X his mark) Snowden 

James Webb 

John (X his mark) Kinder

To further prove my point here is an abstract  I did of a deed for Thomas Godwin Junr. for 100 acres in 1746. (This is a Royal patent and not a local deed).

“between Andrew Munrow, John Rutter, Barnaby Kerny & James Webb”

This patent was “formerly granted to William Wilkinson in 1715” [no patent for that date that I can find]… he failed to cultivate the land and Thomas Godwin acquired it… and almost comically, the land was re-aquired by Willis Wilkinson in 1763 as Thomas Godwin “failed to pay Quitrents”.  You can’t make this stuff up. But the comedy doesn’t stop there, oh no!… this Wilkinson fiasco continues… see later. It is important for this madness of a proof for James Pitt.  Hell, I could write a book now just on the Wilkinsons.

The metes and bounds go thusly:   beginning by an Island Pond…   (sometimes these references to ponds can be amazing to find the land… providing they still exist after 300 years or so)

S 66 W 20 poles, S 56 W 236, S 35 W 12 (small branch), S 75 E 88 (John Rutter’s line), N 74 E 78 (Barnaby Kerny’s line…pond), N 18 E 76, N 71 E 62 (corner James Webb) N 18 W 63 to first station.

Noting the Willis Wilkinson above is this deed from 1764 or so… he is in the neighborhood and this deed in witnessed by James Pitt… now that I know where to look I am stumbling over him at every turn:

There simply is no doubt that this land was near the 1200 acre PITT patent near Brewer’s Creek.  Ergo… the Joseph Godwin with daughter Patience was the son of Thomas Godwin d. 1714. A later Joseph Godwin in 1787 received a 60 1/2 acre patent “in Nansemond” described as “on the ancient bounds on the said Godwins”  (no metes and bounds given).

Note several of the adjacent property owners above also listed below…

You almost have to be a gymnist to twist and turn and do flips just to follow the various John Pitts that are mentioned… one died 1703, another 1729, 1748, 1760 and so forth… the key is to remember they all were involved with the original 1654 patent of the immigrant Robert Pitt… 

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Isle of Wight deed Book 4 1729-1736, Hopkins abstract

(p. 107) 26 Apr 1731…. John Monro to John Pitt… 600 acres in Newport Parish adjoining said John Monro, Col. Bridger, Hall, Bromfield, Jordan, Rutter, Wilkinson, Col. Joseph Godwin, Williams, Snowden, Weatherly and the Great Creek.
Wit: William Cofield and Thomas Godwin
Rec: 26 Apr 1731 John Monro

No mention of a James Pitt in either of these deeds… was John Pitt merely dealing his own land or was James Pitt dead- they co-owned the 1200 acre patent..?  Actually, the Col. John Pitt died in 1702… so this John Pitt is the son of Henry Pitt who was James Pitt’s brother (the brother John Pitt died 1729)…  James Pitt seems not to be a wheeler-dealer type… he is nowhere mentioned in all the government office entanglements such as the couple of early John Pitts.  In other words either a quiet type or else he was dead and I am barking up the wrong tree.

(p. 112) 22 Apr 1731…. John Pitt and wife (not named) to John Monro…. 600 acres bounded by Great Creek, said Monro, Edward Weatherall, Williams, Snowden, Col. Joseph Godwin, Pitt, the Saw Pit Swamp and Back Creek.
Wit: James Everard, James Ingles and Robert Cannon.
Rec: 26 Apr 1731 John Pitt

Note the term Back Creek.

John Pitt, in his will probated Jan 1703, leaves property to son James Pitt. This property is unmistakeably identified with the 1200 acre patent of Robert Pitt of 1654.
“I give to my son JAMES PITT all that land whereon the WIDDOW SNOWDEN and WIDDOW GRAY and ARTHUR MURPHREY now liveth as far into the woods as the main road And as ye road runneth to be ye bounds between him & John Pitt and to bound on the Back Creek. I likewise give my son JAMES PITT one lott or ½ acres of land lying in the towne of Newport it being the 25th lott whereon is the house with Brick Chimneys to him and his heirs lawfully begotten, forever & for want of heirs then to JOHN PITT & his heirs forever.”

In the same will of 1703, John Pitt mentions one “Mr. Monro”…
“I give unto my son HENRY PITT all that tract of land whereon my father COL. ROBERT PITT lived and where MR. MONRO now liveth being twelve hundred acres lying on ye Neck between the Chuckatuck Creek & into the woods.”  (this cannot be the smaller tract of land on Beverly Creek)’

Pitt, John – will dated 6 Dec 1760 recorded 5 Mar 1761. A suit now depending for 500 acres that Captain John Monro died in possession of to be continued for my son; wife Priscilla; son John; daughters Elizabeth and Priscilla; son William Pitt. Witness William Casey, Elizabeth Cutchins and Samuel Cutchins Jr. [7:61]

This Henry Pitt son or grandson, John Pitt is in fact giving away the land John Monro HAD lived  on… You don’t just DO THAT to someone who was a big shot without ramifications (hence the law suit)… It may also be that his father Andrew Monro was also on this land… Andrew Monro sent a letter to the Queen of England for Pete’s sake… he was a Legend in his own mind at least… gimme some facts people!  I can’t find the source now but” I think” the grandson of Robert Pitt d 1672 married the daughter of Andrew Monro and bequeathed his land to the Minister Andrew Monro… which started all this confusion!

I’m interested in how this court squabble ironed out if anyone has a source?  This “John” in 1760 is a couple generations removed  from the original land deal which was prior to 1703!…

The will of John Monro, Gentleman, dated june 20 1760 named legatees: daughter Mary Bryant; granddaughter Sarah Bruant; grandson John Monro Bryant; daughter Lydia; daughter Urania. Executors: son-in-law John Bryant and John Woodley. Witnesses: Joshua Godwin, Thomas Cutchins, & Martha Lillow. Recorded July 3 1760. (Chapman)

Rev. Andrew Monro, of IOW, married Sarah, daughter of Col. Arthur Smith (will proved 1697), and had issue living in 1711, John Monro, Henrietta Monro, Sarah Monro, Mary Monro, (Quarterly, VII., 237, 256, 265)      (see will of Robert Pitt d.1711)

ORDER BOOK 1768- 1797
Mar 1779 – Patience Pitt exr. Of James Pitt deceased VS. Robert Eley

A  record of that court case in 1760 might SOLVE this riddle… I do not have a recourse to the document… a little help here from you PITT folks?

A tidbit of a reference in 1782 may be this widow… A list of Nansemond folks was compiled listing their various losses to the British in the war.  One Patience Pitt is listed as suffering a loss of Furniture for 2 pds, 10 shillings…   In 3 years she apparently had not remarried… does this indicate she was also very old?  Also this suggests my suspicion that James Pitt may have lived just across the Nansemond line and a will for him may have been in those lost records.  This article is also of interest as a sort of census for 1782.

source:   http://archive.org/stream/southsidevirgini219834/southsidevirgini219834_djvu.txt

The title of the article is “Losses To The British in Nansemond County, 1782”  page 104 or so…

Quite a puzzle…

James 1 …The Patience Pitt mentioned above as “executrix” of James Pitt was the daughter of Joseph Godwin who left his will 1757, probated 1761.

The next 2 are impossible to be the son of John Pitt d.1703 due to age.

James 2 … from a newspaper article…”Rand, William, dec’d, pursuant to his will, his HHF and several tracts of land in Isle of Wight and Southampton Counties will be sold by his extx., Sophia Rand, and ex., Lewis Allmand; also mentioned are John Rand in Smithfield and William Rand in Southampton County (VG 9 Jan 1772) Rand, William, of Smithfield, dec’d, his admrs., Walter Rand and James Pitt, will sell his houses and lots there (VIC 22 Apr 89).”   This James was still around in 1794:

In a court case (which is clearly James Pitt and Mary Rand), the records indicate the years 1791 through 1793…  with this little tidbit written on the back of one of the papers…”March 1793  Abates by death of the wife”… does this indicate Mary Rand Pitt died in 1793?

James 3 …  Wills and Administrations of Isle of Wight County Virginia 1647-1800, Chapman
JAMES PITT
22Jul1796
7Oct1799
To wife MARY; son THOMAS WALKE PITT; (James 4) son JAMES; son EDMUND PITT.
Execs: wife MARY and friend THOMAS WALKE.
Wits: JOHN DOBBS, FLOREA CALCOTE.
Security: HENRY HARRISON.

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Shamelessly tooting my own horn, by consulting my IOW map you can make connections that are impossible without it… for example:

Below are a couple snippits from Bob Bairds site where he discusses the Reynolds family of IOW… they were neighbors of the several Pitts. Of particular interest is the mention of “Jones Creek” which is still on modern maps.

Baird’s site:

http://www.genfiles.com/reynolds/ReynoldschronPost-1750.htm

1 Oct 1752 Richard Reynolds and Charles Driver witnesses to 15 year lease of Henry Pitt to Giles Driver…”all my land” on the south east side of Jones Creek (except 50 acres known as “Hains”). Giles West is mentioned. Recorded 2 November 1752. [Isle of Wight Deed Book 9, p38 abstracted by Hopkins]

4 Feb 1753 Richard Reynolds, Charles Driver and William Chapman witness deed from Henry Pitt to Giles Driver….50 acres (being part of a patent for 750 acres “formerly granted to my deceased father, Thomas Pitt”) on the south side of Jones Creek. [Isle of Wight Deed Book 9, p98 abstracted by Hopkins]

7 Jun 1754 Deed: Robert Reynolds and his wife Patience Reynolds, to Henry Pitt, 200 acres called “the Pocoson Plantation” adjoining Jordans Mill Swamp, Robert Driver and Turner (?). Signed: Robert Reynolds, Patience (x) Reynolds and Ann (x) Hunt. Witness: Giles Driver. Recorded 7 Nov 1754. [Isle of Wight Deed Book 9, p289 abstracted by Hopkins]

So… in 1752 Henry Pitt leased “all his land” (which would be the original patent of John Sparkes) to Giles Driver… and a year later an additional 50 acres… or ALL of the Jones Creek patent.

And in 1754 Henry Pitt (the grandson or great grandson of the immigrant) evidently was residing on the 200 acre parcel of land on Cypress Creek… which would be impossible to figure out without the map.

This “Cypress Creek” property may even date back to 1668:

1668- Wm Berkley grants unto Arthur Smith 350 acres land upon Cypress Swamp first granted to John ROE 10 Dec 1640 and by him assigned to Christopher Reynolds and from said Reynolds to Arthur Smith. 21 Mar 1643. George Smith assigns all right in this patent to Christopher Hollimas except 200 acres- 100 given ny father Athur Smith to Arthur Long by will and the other 100 acres sold to Wm Oldis 11 Jan 1661. John Jackson, Richard Jordan., Jr. ENDORSED by CHRISTOPHER HOLLYMAN and ANNE his wife to THOMAS PITT 9 Dec 1668.

ah here he finalizes the land deal on Cypress Creek:

1681- Whereas Christopher Hollyman and Mary his wife by deed of sale -1668 sell all that plantation where said Chris. and Mary then lived on Cypress River to be holden of Mr. Pitt, 150 acres and at any time give further assurance- now at the request of said Pitt make absolute conveyance. 9 Jun 1681. JOHN LEAR, Henry Baker

An aside while I’m thinking of it…the land of Thomas Gross and Michael Fulgham was on the original Spark’s patent near modern Jones Creek… per this snippet from Thomas Pitt’s will of 1688:

CODICIL :

“I give to THOMAS GROSS and FRANCIS GROSS and their heirs/assignees – all that land where they now live being 130 acres part of SPARKE’s patent”

“I give and bequeath to MICHAEL FULGHAM 50 acres of land part of SPARKES patent.”   according to Joani, Patience Pitt married M. Fulgham which explains the bequest…

One of these Henrys or Thomas’s dies testate but does not list his children in his will… so it is possible a “James” may have been one of those children?????  Who knows at this point?

Here are some notes Joani collected…

Thomas Pitt of Cypress Swamp who died in about 1734, intestate. His accounting was made in that year, and deeds show that he probably had two sons, Thomas d. 1746 m. Martha (of Jones’ Creek) and Henry of Cypress Swamp (d. 1747/48, leaving a will.) Thomas Pitt (d. 1734) was the son of Thomas Pitt (d. 1688) and Mary (d. 1711) who had vast holdings on Cypress Swamp and Thomas, Jr. had a sister named Patience. the Lightfoots and Pitts lived side-by-side. A 1744 deed mentions land on Cypress Swamp, “adjacent Thomas Pitts’ land now in possession of his son Henry Pitts and Henry Lightfoot.” A deed dated 1752 concerning this same land, then being sold to Bartholomew Lightfoot, calls it, land “adjoining Thomas Pitt’s land now in possession of his GRANDSON Henry Pitt(bec. the SON Henry had died in 1748) and said LIghtfoot.” (Robert and Patience LIghtfoot Reynolds sold their property in 1754 to Henry Pitt), Bartholomew Lightfoot did serve as the guardian of Willis Pitt after Henry Pitt, Jr.’s death in 1757.

All of which explains this deed (I think 🙂  And if I am correct then we also can make a reasonable assumption about where everyone mentioned in the deed was living in 1752.

Note that our old buddy William Rand was a signatory in the above deed…. I think he built a bridge north of this  property mid 1750s or so… his daughter eventually marries James Pitt…Good Lord this stuff drives me crazy…  see later below…

Joani is pondering some property of one Joseph Smith… which illustrates a problem with my IOW map; it is only a “snapshot in time” people die and everything changes. Below is the area of where Anthony Jones, Nathanial Bacon (not the “rebel”) and others were originally in the 1600s… By 1713 things had changed…  By the early 1900s and even today this area is referred to as “Smith’s Neck”  ( I have no idea how these folks are connected to Arthur Smith of the town of  Smithfield… make a comment if you have some facts).

This is interesting…

Hopkins iow deeds 1750-1782, pg 72

DB 11-34, 3/24,1762 James Bagnall to Nicholas Parker 125 A being the land said Bagnall now lives on and adj. 13 A of land that James Bagnall bought of Nicholas Smith

Wit John Scarsbrook Wills, Gent., Thomas x McKinney, Joseph Smith and Nicholas Fulgham

HOpkins pg 78 IOW Deeds 1750-1782,

DB11 -118 2/8/1763 Bond of Nicholas Smith to Nicholas ParkerWhereas Nicholas Smith lately sold James Bagnall 13 A on Back Creek in Newport Parish and Bagnall has since sold the 13 A to Nicholas Parker and Nicholas Smith has now sold on 3/3/1757 17 A on the s side of Back Creek and joining the 13 A wit : James x Pitt, William Whitfield, and Henry Applewaite

I’m beginning to think that “Back Creek” may be the smaller creek branching northward off modern Brewer’s Creek.

Chapman pg 214

Nicholas Smith appraised by Joseph Hawkins, Benjamin Hawkins and Thomas Murray ordered 2/7/1765 recorded 3/7/1765

pg 227 examined by Nicholas Parker, Joseph Copeland 10/3/1771 WB 8-94

Child of NICHOLAS SMITH and ELIZABETH is:

i. JAMES⁵ SMITH, b. Bef. 1765.

Notes for JAMES SMITH:

1778 Tristam Norsworthy guardian, pd James Pitt for schooling (Guardian accounts vol 1, image 32010/1778.

All of which happened prior to 1779 which is the date of death for James Pitt, husband of Patience Godwin…. who appears to die intestate.  So did a very old man have his living room set aside for “schooling” the young-uns?

So now for my theory… its what I do 🙂

A point of interest to me now is the idea that James Pitt that married the RAND girl “may” be the son of James that married Patience Godwin…

The evidence would be the 1/2 acre “storefront” property in the town of Smithfield. The store was willed to the elder James in 1703…

 I give to my son JAMES PITT all that land whereon the WIDDOW SNOWDEN and WIDDOW GRAY and ARTHUR MURPHREY now liveth as far into the woods as the main road And as ye road runneth to be ye bounds between him & John Pitt and to bound on the  Back Creek. I likewise give my son JAMES PITT one lott or ½ acres of land lying in the towne of Newport it being the 25th lott whereon is the house with Brick Chimneys to him and his heirs lawfully begotten, forever & for want of heirs then to JOHN PITT & his heirs forever.

I may be off base with the deed below but it is interesting to speculate… the deed conveys six lots in “Newport” in 1759… which appears to be Smithfield. It is Joseph Godwin and Charles Fulgham selling the lots to Mary Applewhaite. My hunch is this Joseph Godwin is the brother in law of James Pitt (no proof, again this is a hunch). My curiosity is merely the lots being sold… James Pitt owned lot # 25.  Henry Pitt, the brother of James was bequeathed Lot #26. Sounds like a bunch of “merchants” to me.  Later, as you will see William Rand owned lot #24.  The elder Joseph Godwin wrote his will in 1757 so this also could be him but I think it is his son?

James Pitt married Mary Rand Smith in 1779 the same year the elder James died.

The father of Mary Rand owned Lot #19 in Smithfield… this younger James helped to settle the estate of Rand.  The question is did the original store of the elder James stay in operation all these years and was it the catalyst for the “meeting and romance” of James and Mary Rand?  Actually Rand had a storefront “next door” to the Pitt store per this deed I just found:

Unrecorded deeds from IOW County. 1770-1779, by Lyndon H. Hart, Southside Virginian article

D. Nov. 10, 1773. Sophia Rand exx. and Lewis Almand ex. of William Rand, dec. of Va. and John Rand son and heir of sd. decedant to Willam Robertson of IW. Public sale in accordance with will of William Rand. L5.3s Lot 24 in Smithfield. witn: John Taylor, will. Henry McKay, Arthr. Smith. receipt witn. by same.

The man that Mary Rand first married was of the Smith’s Neck clan… which is  a short buggy ride from the Pitt plantation.  This also could place James Pitt conveniently to swoon her, if I may wax romantically.

Joseph Smith married and had a son Joseph who married MARY RAND, dau of William and Sophia Rand, 27 March 1773. Issue: WILLIAM RAND SMITH, Nancy and Catherine.

WILLIAM RAND SMITH (son of Mary) married MARTHA NORSWORTHY, dau of George and Christian (Exum) Norsworthy, 21 Nov. 1793. He died in 1810, the last of the male line of Smiths of Smith’s Neck. He had an only daughter, JANE who married WILLIAM HINES, son of Robert and Nancy Peete (Elliott) Hines, 6 Aug 1822. The Smith’s Neck house faced Jones’ Creek and was burned by the Federals in the Civil War. The village of Rescue was built on part of this plantation.

Backing up a bit to 1706 and the elder James Pitt…

(pg. 59) Jan 1706… John Norsworthy, Gent., of Chuckatuck Parish in Nansemond County to Thomas Boyd, Gent. and wife Martha Boyd of the same (being the late wife of Col. George Norsworthy, decd.) for the Love and Affection he has for his mother the said Martha Boyd… -?- acres in Newport Parish in Isle of Wight County and now in the possession of Benjamin Baldwyn and bounded by the upper side of a place called Horse Hall, Ragged Island Creek and the Nansemond County line.  Thomas Boyd is also written as Thomas Bird in this deed.

Wit: John Giles,  Phillarete Giles, Philarete Giles, Jr., Trus Norsworthy  and James Pitt                       Rec: 10 Feb 1706

John Norsworthy

Thomas Boyd

Martha (X) Norsworthy

(pg. 61)  10 Feb 1706… Mr. Trustrum Norsworthy acts as his attorney in the above deed.

Wit: James Pitt and Henry (X) Be….                                                                                                                                  Trus Norsworthy

The above wife of Col. George Norsworthy, Martha, is suspected to be a PITT… she afterwards married Thomas Boyd. (so her Pittness may be researchable?)

All of which would explain the involvement of James Pitt in the deed.   I still marvel at this guy’s AGE… this deed is 1706… since James is merely a witness, he did not have to be “of age”… if he was 16 say, then he would be born 1690 d. 1779… 89 years of age!

Also, the above Trus (Tristram) Norsworthy is purported to have a son Tristram who married Sarah Pitt, daughter of Col. John Pitt and wife Olive.  Col. Pitt would be the father of James Pitt.  One of the daughters of Tristrum Norsworthy… father or son, I’m getting dizzy, also married John Monro who had 600 acres of the original Pitt plantation during this time period… whew!

William Rand Smith died intestate in Isle of Wight about 1810 or so. He was the son of Joseph Smith of “Smith’s Neck” whose widow married James Pitt in 1779.  Smith’s wife was Martha Norsworthy.

He is reported to be the last of the line of the Smiths.

See the Chancery Court case here:

http://www.lva.virginia.gov/chancery/case_detail.asp?CFN=093-1811-009

Another earlier Chancery Court case involved a suit against James Pitt and wife Mary on behalf of the step son above:

http://www.lva.virginia.gov/chancery/case_detail.asp?CFN=093-1811-009

Commanded to appear in the above case were some interesting folks… Brewer Godwin, Edmund Godwin, William Bagnall and Nicholas Parker… all of which lived near the Pitt plantation on Brewer’s Creek.

Another possible son of the elder James Pitt may be a Joseph Pitt:

Brewer Godwin , Sheriff, IOW

b. abt 1751, d. abt 1800

Father: Edmund Godwin b: ABT 1710

Mother: Ann Applewhaite b: ABT 1712

Marriage 1 Hannah (Parker) Godwin,  leaves will, 1806

Children

Josiah Godwin

Mary Godwin

Dolly Godwin  m. Joseph Pitt

Priscilla Godwin

Brewer Godwin

John Godwin

Wills and Administrations of Isle of Wight County Virginia 1647-1800

CHARLES FULGHAM of Newport Parish.

8Nov1764

7Feb1765

Leg. to brother Joseph FULGHAM, now living in PLYMOUTH, NEW ENGLAND, with reversion of the bequest to his son Charles; to cousin Martha REYNOLDS, in case she dies, bequest to go to the use of a free school, to be kept in the town of SMITHFIELD; godson BREWER GODWIN; goddaughter Margaret EASON; to Priscilla GODWIN; to Brewer GODWIN’s son Brewer; wife ANN.

Exec. wife ANN FULGHAM, in case of her death, my friend James EASON.

I request Mrs. EASON to have the care of my darling MARTHA REYNOLDS.

Wits: James RONALDSON, Thomas BROWNE, Robert SHEDDON.

Wills and Administrations of Isle of Wight County Virginia 1647-1800

ANN FULGHAM

15Feb1770

4Nov1773

Estate to be divided between BREWER GODWIN and MARTHA REYNOLDS.

Exec: BREWER GODWIN

Wits: none named.

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Seventeenth Century Isle of Wight County, Virginia: A History of the County …

By John Bennett Boddie    pg 191

Ordered that John Jennings Wheadon be appointed a second lieutenant to the Company whereof Goodrich Wilson is Captain.  Brewer Godwin, Sheriff.

At a Court held April 6th, 1780.

Ordered that John Lawrence, Gent., be appointed a Col. of Militia in this county in the room of Tristram Norsworthy, who has resigned the office; that James Wills be appointed a Major in the room of John Lawrence, who is appointed a colonel; that Christopher Dickinson be appointed a Captain in the room of James Wills, who is appointed Major and that Joseph Pitt be appointed a first Lieutenant and George Benn a second to the said Company.

My guess would be the birth date of the above Joseph would be perhaps mid 1750s or so…  ???  Most of these Rev. War guys were early to mid twenties… But I cannot find a pension for this guy, which might mean one of a couple of things: he died before 1832 when the pension accounts started, … or he may have been well off and did not give a damn about a crappy pension?

But then it bugs me to no end that James Pitt would have to be in his 50s to be siring these sons…!!!

So… a 2nd theory, and a bit more plausible, is that there is a James Pitt “unaccounted for” between 1703 and 1779. Perhaps a missing record will show up or a court case will surface which mentions him?

All of which brings up a couple of Isle of Wight PITTs who were Rev. War veterans who were born about… you guessed it… about 1760 or so.. who were they sons of?

Joseph Pitt – Revolutionary War

Abstract

Joseph Pitt, NC, S.31305

The above named soldier was living in Muhlenberg County, KY, when he applied for pension on 31 December 1832, age 70. He states that he was born in VA in 1762. He enlisted in Edgecomb County, NC in 1779. He removed in childhood to Edgecomb County, NC. In 1803 he moved to Sumner County, TN, and in 1816 moved to Muhlenberg County KY. Henry Pitt made affidavit in Sumner County, TN on January 6, 1834. He knew Joseph Pitt during the war in NC.

Source: Pension Records of Soldiers in Revolutionary War in Muhlenberg County by Annie Walker Burns Bell

Full Text

29.507

Kentucky

Joseph Pitt

Muhlenberg Co. in the state of Kentucky who was a Private in the company commanded by Captain Bowen of the regt. commaned by Col. Lowell in the N. Carolina Mila. line for 20 months from 1779.

Inscribed on the Roll of Kentucky at the rate of 66 dollars 66 cents per annum to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.

Certificate of Pension issued the 19 day of February 1834 and sent to Hon. A.G. Hawes H.R.

Arrears to the 4th of Sept. ’33 -> $166.66

Semi-anl. allowance ending 4 Mch. ’34 -> $33.33

[Total] $200.00

{ Revolutionary Claim Act June 7, 1832 }

Recorded by Wm. Allison Clerk

Book C [or possibly E] Vol. 7 Page 23

Declaration

Declaration in order to obtain the benefits of the Act of Congress passed June 7th, 1832

State of Kentucky

Muhlenberg County Sct.

On the 31st day of December personally appeared in open court before the _____________________________________ Justices of the county court of Muhlenberg County now _____[?] Joseph Pitt a resident of said state of Kentucky and county of Muhlenberg, aged Seventy [70] years who being first duly sworn according to Law, doth on his Oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefits of the Act of Congress passed June 7th, 1832. That this declarant was born in the state of Virginia, removed in childhood to Edgcombe [sic]county North Carolina where he resided unto he removed to the Western county which was in 1803. He first moved in 1803 to Sumner county, Tennessee from which place in 1816 he removed to Muhlenberg Kentucky where he has since resided.

He states that in 1779 he entered the service of the United States and served as herein stated. He first entered in 1779 into the Militia service and served a tour of five months under Colonel Benjamin Lowell, Lieutenant Colonel Prickles [?], Major Jules [?], Captain James Barrow commanded this declarant’s company of which &nbps;    Owens was Lieutenant and John Smith Ensign. He states that during his tour he was in no considerable engagement, but was constantly in the army during the whole period, marching from point to point, and frequently employed in scouting parties. During most of this tour the troops to which he was attached served in South Carolina. During the service General Gates’ defeat took place. This declarant was not in the battle, as the troops to which he belonged did not arrive in time though a forced march was made for the purpose of arriving in time.

This declarant understood that General Sumner commanded the Militia of which declarant was one. He states he volunteers in this service as a common soldier, served throughout it as such until the expiration of the Term of five months when he was lawfully discharged, but that he has lost said discharge believing it could avail him nothing to take care of it. That he [returned] home from this service in October or November 1779 and in the January following entered the service as a volunteer for a three month tour. Colonel      Reed commanded the Militia to which this declarant belonged as a private. Capt. G. Colfield commanded the company of which Frank Williamson was Lieutenant. That they joined the Army as soon as the junction would be formed under General Greene. During this three months this declarant was in no engagement except slight skirmishes while out on scouting parties. His company was actively and variously employed in scouting, reconnoitering & beating up parties of Tories. He did not share in the Battle of Guilford being then out scouting & the express sent for them not finding them in time to warn them it. That he served out this three months and was again lawfully discharged but has not preserved his discharge.

This declarant states that in October 1781 Troops were raised to suppress the Tories who were very troublesome in South Carolina and a part of North Carolina and to push[?] them down Troops were raised, which were[?] called twelve month troops & by some state troops. In this part of North Carolina where declarant lived, the men were classed for this service and one of every twenty which was the number of the class had to serve. This declarant’s class did not stand a draft, as declarant rendered it unnecessary by volunteering. Colonel      Lewis commanded the regiment to which the declarant was attached, Samuel Crofton was Major, Twan[?] Teverton[?] Captain, and Morris Roford Lieutenant. During this tour Troops were employed on the Borders of North Carolina & South Carolina in quelling & extirpating the Tories who were plundering & committing constant depredations. That he had many skirmishes in this service and assisted in quieting the country & killing and driving off the Tories. That he was out & employed during the whole Twelve months at the expiration of which time he was fully discharged but has not preserved his discharge. His 1st discharge was signed by Col. Lowell, the 2nd by Col. Reed & the last by Col. Lewis. He states that he has no documentary evidence and that he knows of no person whose testimony he can procure to testify to his service.

He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity the present and declares that his name is not on the Pension Roll of the agency of any state.

Sworn to & subscribed the day & year aforesaid.

Joseph Pitt

We Ezias W. Earle a Clergyman residing in the County of Muhlenberg and Larry Stringer residing in the same hereby certify that we are well acquainted with Joseph Pitt who has subscribed…

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Henry Pitt, born 1760, IOW

Southern Campaign American Revolution Pension Statements & Rosters

Pension application of Henry Pitt S3689 fn13NC Transcribed by Will Graves 9/9/09

[Methodology: Spelling, punctuation and/or grammar have been corrected in some instances for ease of reading and to facilitate searches of the database. Also, the handwriting of the original scribes often lends itself to varying interpretations. Users of this database are urged to view the original and to make their own decision as to how to decipher what the original scribe actually wrote. Blanks appearing in the transcripts reflect blanks in the original. Folks are free to make non-commercial use this transcript in any manner they may see fit, but please extend the courtesy of acknowledging the transcriber—besides, if it turns out the transcript contains mistakes, the resulting embarrassment will fall on the transcriber.]

State of Tennessee Sumner County: August Term of County Court 1832

On this the 20th day of August 1832 personally appeared in open Court, before the

Justices of the said Court Henry Pitt a resident of the County of Sumner and State of Tennessee aged seventy-two years, who being first duly sworn according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7th 1832 —

States that he was born in the County of Isle of Wight in the State of Virginia and moved to the County of Edgecombe in the State of North Carolina, — He was born in the year 1760 — He has a record of his age in his Bible & as given to him by his parents at his residence in this County — he was living in the County of Edgecombe in the State of North Carolina when called into service, and still continued to reside in that County after the revolutionary war ’till the year ’96 when he removed to the County of Sumner and the State of Tennessee where he now lives —

He entered the service of the United States under the following named officers, and served as herein stated —

He belonged to a drafted company commanded by Captain Edward Clinch and served under him for the term of five months. The first Lieutenant of the company was William Hall, the Major was Joseph Clinch the Colonel was by the name of Eaton [Thomas Eaton] and the whole commanded by General Ash [sic, John Ashe] — They marched through the State of South Carolina in pursuit of the Tories, they marched also into the State of Georgia and had an engagement with the enemy at Bryar Creek [sic, Briar Creek] — the re-marched into the State of South Carolina and remained in that State until they were discharged. He had a discharge but it is now lost, he thinks it was signed by Captain Clinch — After he was discharged he returned back to the State of North Carolina — he was called into service a second time for the term of three months, under Captain James Wilson, Lieutenant William Fort. The object of this service was to protect the inhabitants of the Counties in the lower part of the State of North Carolina against the depredations of the Tories. For this last service he had a discharge which has been lost also. He thinks the discharge was signed by Captain Wilson. He does not now recollect the names of any officers except those already stated.

He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present, and declares that his name is not on the roll of the agency of any State.

Sworn to in open Court August 21st 1832. S/ Henry Pitt

Test: S/ A. H. Douglass Clerk

[James Brigance, a clergyman, and Humphrey Mires [Humphrey Myers?] gave the standard supporting affidavit.]

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So now for the creme de la creme of the theory for James Pitt & sons…

Remember above the nutty deed swaps from Thomas Godwin to William Wilkinson then back to son Willis Wilkinson… well, it did not stop there… it continued.

The important point for me is the land involved. They were both near the Pitt property of 1200 acres.  3 or 4 generations of Thomas Godwins are on the same property (which can be visualized with the Richard Prestwood patent on my IOW map). The Wilkinson property adjoins the Godwin and Pitt properties.

Below is the Wilkinson and Thomas Godwin land deal of 1782… Joseph Pitt is noted as adjacent to each.  James Pitt died 1779 so he would not be referenced but a son would. Also noted in these records is Brewer Godwin. Remember that Joseph Pitt was a lieutenant in the militia group of Brewer Godwin. And perhaps most importantly the land is described as of Nansemond and Isle of Wight… it must have straddled the county line.

Below is a Chancery Court case which further describes the land involved… it also mentions the principle players I have elaborated on…

Several additions to the 1200 acre patent of Robert Pitt were made by his son Col. John Pitt before his will of 1702…he then bequeaths the land to his 3 sons, John , Henry and James… noted below:

Note the 1743 “Processioning”  account from the Newport Vestry book:

And here is James Pitt in 1743:

Remember the widow (Patience Pitt)  who was mentioned as losing some furniture in 1782?… this is her. It is pure luck that I even found a mention of her since the Nansemond records are GONE!… this mention was just a random Revolutionary War account that showed up in records outside of Nansemond.

Note that in the will of Joseph Godwin, will of 1757, he left a bequest to his grandson Joseph Pitt… this HAS to be a son of James Pitt the son in law.

I give unto my Grandson Joseph Pitt forty Shillings cash to be paid unto him  immediately after this my will is proved and one young heffer ~

I think that was the son of James Pitt… aka, the lieutenant, of Brewer Godwin’s militia… and he was born prior to 1757…  not sure what he did with the cow?

This “may” be the James Pitt who married Mary Rand… I’m suspicious tho’ because all of his court dealings were in IOW and not Nansemond. There is another James Pitt who married Mary Waite who died about this time also.  An explanation of the IOW court dealings will be shown below… when James Pitt married Mary Rand Smith in 1779 he became guardian for her children of Joseph Smith Jr.  His property was on Smith’s Neck and his children in effect owned that property in IOW… hence James Pitt would deal in that court.

There are numerous records for the Smith children in the IOW “guardian records”… here are a couple which show the date range that James Pitt dealt with the court:

If my theory is correct that this James Pitt died in 1799 (or even after that) in Nansemond then any of his later records (and possible children) would be lost in the destruction of those records.  This guy apparently was wealthy (he was in control of multiple plantations merely for the orphans)… what reason would he have to uproot and hit the highway?

All of which simply does not solve the question of my friend Joani as to who was the “daddy” of her James Pitt that wound up in North Carolina… such is genealogy… but I hope it helps the hunt. Her theory is that her James Pitt of North Carolina was from the Henry/Thomas/Henry line of IOW. Looks like she is on the right track.

Another theory I have about theories is that if you prove me wrong then I will have to fess up and then change all my notes to accommodate your new evidence… genealogy is a vicious hobby.

Well I moaned and groaned a bit about buying another book in an earlier post but it turns out to be a good buy.  I found a petition of the James Anderson of Perquimans that reveals a wealth of new information.  Not so much as to glean any new info on his son James… who I “think” may be the progenitor of the Pitt County Andersons, but it does offer many other folks to research. Those other folks may lead to new clues.  All of my research for that James Anderson is found on this Page…

https://andersonnc.wordpress.com/1723-tar-river/

Here is the petition from the NC Archives

Yeah, tough to read, I threw it in for fun… here is the transcript …

The Colonial Records of N.C. (2nd Series, Vol VII), Records of the Executive Council, 1664-1734, Edited by Robert J. Cain, p 637

Petition to President and Council

Date Undetermined    (after 1707… per will of the widow of Thurston)

North: Carolina ss. To the Honorable President and Council

The Humble petition of James Anderson

Humbly Sheweth

That your petitioner haveing maryed Deborah the Daughter of John Thurston deceased who bequeathed by his last Will and Testament his Estate after the Death of his Wife to her Children and left his said Wife and his Son John Executors who are both Since Deceased and the said Mary Executrix of the said Will Surviving the said John the other Executor the said Mary by her last Will did leave Emund Maudlin Executor in trust for the Estate of the said Children Now Soe is it may it please your Honors that all the Children being of Full Age and capeable of Manageing their Legacyes themselves the Said Emund Maudlin doth utterly refuse to render an Account of the said Estate or Deliver the Same.

May it therefore please your Honors to take the premises into your Serious Consideration and Order that the said Emund Maudlin may be Compelled to Deliver and pay the said Estate according as it be queathed by the Will of the Said Thurston. And Shall pray etc.

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Here are a few records from various sources…

The North Carolina Historical and Genealogical Register , Vol 1, Hathaway, p. 199

John Thurston & Mary Andrares was Married the ____ August 1669 by Mr. Jeremia Taylor Minister.

What in the world are we to make of the name “Andrares”….. Andrews?

John Thurston the son of John Thurston & Mary his wife was borne the 18th of October 1677.  p. 206

James Sanderson married Deborah daughter of John Thurston, dec’d, her brother John Thurston, (1702).. p. 142

This is obviously “Anderson” and not Sanderson.   (since this fooled Hathaway it might pay to double check any “Sanderson” records)

John Thurston, 10 Apr 1692, Son and Executor: John. Witnesses: Francis Tomes, Thomas Holmson (?), Samuel Nickellson. No probate.

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Minutes of the Perquimans Precinct Court

North Carolina. Precinct Court (Perquimans Precinct)

July 08, 1701 – July 09, 1701

Volume 01, Pages 548-550

 p. 549

Juliana Lakar and Ruth Laker Proved A Will of Beniamen Laker by ye Oathes of Richard ffrench And Elisabeth Steward Debro Thuston John More vars Daniel Snooks

Minutes of the Perquimans Precinct Court

North Carolina. Precinct Court (Perquimans Precinct)

February 09, 1703

Volume 01, Pages 575-577

p. 576

Upon a Petition of Mary Coffen Widd

The Sd Mary proves three rights being for the transportation of ffrancis and Mary Coffen and Jno Thursten and Assignes them to her Sonne in Law Richd Rose.

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COFFINE, MARY

June 17, 1707. July 8, 1707. Deceased husband: JOHN THURSTON. Daughter: HANNAH THURSTON. Granddaughter: SARAH ROSE. Executor: EDMOND MODLIN. Witnesses: GILBERT SMITH, DERBY BRAYEN. Clerk of the Court: THOS. SNODEN.

(Source: Abstracts of North Carolina Wills, By: J. Bryan Grimes, Secretary of State, 1910, Page 75)

LAKARO (or LAKERS), BENJAMIN

April 7, 1701. July 8, 1701. Wife and Executrix: JULIANA (land on Parishes Creek). Daughter: SARAH HARVEY (book, “Grantham’s Church Principles”). Friend: GEORGE BLEIGHTON (“one book, being an Exposition upon the five books of Moses”). Witnesses: RICHARD FRENCH, ELIZABETH STEWARD, DEBORAH THURSTON. Clerk of the Court: JOHN STEPNEY.

(Source: Abstracts of North Carolina Wills, By: J. Bryan Grimes, Secretary of State, 1910, Page 206)

ANDERSON, JAMES

February 6, 1741-1742. December 14, 1742. Sons: JAMES and JOHN. Executor: RICHARD SKINNER. Witnesses: THOMAS JESSOP and THOMAS BATEMAN. Proven before W. SMITH.

(Source: Abstracts of North Carolina Wills, By: J. Bryan Grimes, Secretary of State, 1910, Page 7)

ANDERSON, JOHN

January 27, 1744-1745. March 5, 1745. Executors: CHRISTOPHER SUTTON and ABRAHAM MULLEN. Other legatee: JANE MULLEN. Witnesses: GEORGE WOOD, ELENDER MULLEN. Proven before GAB JOHNSTON.

(Source: Abstracts of North Carolina Wills, By: J. Bryan Grimes, Secretary of State, 1910, Page 8)

RECORDS OF DEEDS

ABSTRACTS COMPILED FROM BOOKS IN THE COUNTY REGISTER’S

OFFICE

DEED BOOK A

No. 13. John Lilly of Perq, in Co of Albemarle, Province of N. C. planter—for 1940 lbs of Pork pd by Wm. Foster of Afore’ Planter—“do sell my plan’ 150a on North-side of the mouth of Perq River.” Jan. 31, 1682. Test’ Samuel Woodrove, Alex Speed, John Thurstone.

No. 321. John Johnson of Perq Pre’ct, for a Con’ pd by James Anderson of same, 15a, being “part of a tract” belonging to John Thurston, (63a) at the mouth of Suttons Creek, adj Joseph Sutton Jun’r, & John Kinsey. Dec. 12, 1711. Test’ Edward Sweeney, Joseph Sutton.

Coffin, Francis, m Mary Thurston, July 21, 1692. (Berkeley Par Reg) d May 5, 1700.

Its Thankgiving morning and I’m starting a second pot of coffee plus I didn’t drink myself last night… just sayin’.

The evidence for my suspicion of the late Secretary of State can be found here:

http://www.archive.org/stream/abstractofnorthc00nort#page/228/mode/2up

See page 229 and 230 for these damnable abstracts… Thank You Mr. Grimes!

MACKDANIELL, DANIEL        Bertie Precinct

April 16, 1733. Sons: DANIEL, ARCHBELL, ELEXANDER, JAMES. Daughters: MARY, ANN and SARAH MACKDANIELL. Wife and Executrix: SARAH. Witnesses: JNO. ANDERSON, ALEXR. WEIGHT, JOHN BRYAN. No probate.

(Source: Abstracts of North Carolina Wills, By: J. Bryan Grimes, Secretary of State, 1910, Page 230)

MCDANIELL, DANIEL        Bertie Precinct

April 16, 1733. May 2, 1734. Sons: NICHOLAS, DANIEL, JAMES (negroes to each). Daughters: ANN and SARAH MCDANIEL. Wife and Executrix: SARAH. Witnesses: JOHN ANDERSON, ALEX. WIGHT, JOHN BRYAN. Original missing. Recorded in Book 1722-1735, page 295.

(Source: Abstracts of North Carolina Wills, By: J. Bryan Grimes, Secretary of State, 1910, Page 229)