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lost James Bryant info…

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A lost patent for Richard Braswell to be precise. I did a prior post for this Bryant fella and tracked some of his Isle of Wight/Southampton, VA land holdings. I’ve ventured into his history a bit now and see it is likely he was the father in law of Richard Braswell as well as John Dew and Mathew Selar. (per his will of 1731)

This stellar bit of detective work on my part came about not thru my Holmesian insights but merely sheer dumb luck… I was looking for a missing patent for Mr. Braswell and ran across a deed from 1740 that lays out the sordid details…

I have still not found the missing Braswell deed from 1706 but feel compelled to share the James Bryant info… which I shall do...Viszt… as they used to say… (a little colonial history there as Rush used to say…)

The pertinent details start out thusly: William Bryant and wife of Edgecombe County to Thomas Uzzell of Nansemond County, Va. May 20, 1740. 1000 pds. for “a certain plantation” plus 100 A. Land on NS Meherrin River “being plantation whereon James Bryant formerly Lived and part of the patent Granted to Richard Braswell... so you see I am not pulling your leg…

Like I say… I am still looking for that damn missing patent… you folks may poke and prod thru the sordid details as you see fit… my footnoting and source details are horrendous at best and I offer no excuses other than to advise you to simply deal with it…

This is the general area where I think James Bryan[t] was living ca. 1708…

A John Britt is mentioned in one of the references as well as a “Duke” guy which I also cannot find… that is primarily why I suspect the land is in this specific area (but then, this Britt placement can be changed if necessary) it is a guess right now…

Putting on my “historian’s cap”… isn’t it interesting that in 1706 and 1708 when Braswell assigned this land to Bryan[t] that the 1710 Tuscarora “war” had not yet taken place. It was only after the Indians were no longer a threat that the floodgates for settlement were opened. Note in one of the patents shown below for John Dew (near Kerby’s Creek) that mention is made of the “Roanoke path”. I suspect that was the original “Indian Trail” leading to the Occoneechee Neck and perhaps Foltera Fort. It just seems like a lonely place in 1706… except for Indian Traders… and their cohorts.

To add a bit more complexity to this mystery… note the “William” Braswell in the map lower right above… in the references to Bryant in 1714 he is dealing with this William Braswell/wife Mary… is he selling him property? Any one have any insights to what was going on? just curious…

a prior post:

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August 26, 2021 at 10:24 pm

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James Bryan of Isle of Wight

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Ca…late 1600s / early 1700s. Ken Brantley rattled my cage about this guy.

I’m pretty neutral at this moment… meaning I have not formed any opinions about this guy. So my initial comments right now are strictly about his land… and nothing about “him”, if that makes sense? I have no dog in this fight.

None of his patents have a “t” at the end of his name.

I hazard a guess that the 1689 patent “on the Blackwater River” was deserted by said James Bryan. My reason is obvious… note that William West got the land in 1705. Also because Bridgman Joyner and Henry Applewaite also deserted the land. correction… commenters have stated Bryan held on to the 1689 land and later sold it off (I stand corrected and have revised my map)

Note Philip Brantley in the upper Left Corner. (my reason for this particular map)

I’ll also include this patent because it references the name James “Brian” and is adjacent in 1692. It seems to me this gives a clue to how his name was pronounced in 1700s… for what its worth. This particular patent is perplexing because I do not see any way for me to draw in the missing parts to include going from “Beaver Dam” to “Kingsale” to the beginning? … a head scratcher… welcome to my world. (smiling)


Note for the 1702 patent. I was mistaken that the 1702 patent which was adjoined by Richard Williams was for a “Samuel” Bryant… I now am convinced it was this JAMES Bryant.

David Boyett has chimed in with the theory that the early Bryans(t)s may have been imported as indentured servants via Britton England… he has some links to his site in the comments…

The 1652 patent to John Bryan (possibly the “Agent” who did the importing) is referenced by this map which shows my attempt to find “Indian Creek” which was a branch of the Nansemond River.

I will attach the John Bryan 1652 patent which references William Storey and John garrett.

James Bryan in North Carolina. The 2 Chowan patents.

from this source:

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July 31, 2021 at 5:01 am

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John Bryan 1672, a curious patent

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This patent is not to be found in Nugent’s Cavaliers and Pioneers which caused some relief to my consternation and confusion when Jennifer from California found it by one of those horrid, tedious page by page searches. Several aspects of the patent and its subsequent re-patent 10 years later are becoming important for a better understanding of the immigrant John Bryant.

My theory of this guy assuming room temperature in 1680 is proving controversial and hard to swallow for my cohorts… and I am feverishly attempting to gather my notes and mount a defense … to “prove it, dammit”… so to speak. I get a kick out of this sort of thing…the bodies of deceased John Bryans are beginning to pile up (in my mind at least) so some ‘splainin’ is in order.

One important aspect of this patent of 1672 is that it relocates the immigrant from his lair at Indian Creek (since at least 1652) and moves him about eight mile or so southwest (and perhaps importantly) across the border from Nansemond to Isle of Wight. That is why so many records show up for this guy… otherwise he would have been hopelessly vaporized in the burned embers of the three Nansemond fires.

Also of import is the neighbor Thomas Mason…I am just beginning to figure him out.. I really can’t comment on him except to mention I have a “hunch” he married into the Bryant line. He shows up in too many deeds to be an idle bystander. He seems to be a contemporary of the old man… note that he received his 1000 acre patent in 1666… a few years before Bryan. Bryan will later begin to buy in to this land… as also will some descendants.

Below is the nitty gritty details of the two patents… again, finders credit to Jennifer Thornton.

Click the filename (in blue) under the image for a larger image to zoom…

The strange dotted line in the 1682 patent is just to draw attention to the errors present and in contrast to the original 1672 patent. There is just no way a “pretty” match is going to present itself on a map.

Now go back to the Post below this one and see if it might make more sense that a John Bryan died in 1680.

Note also that I mentioned a “testamentary deed”… my friend David Gammon turned me on to that term… likewise Traci the Librarian once scolded me (correctly so) for using the term “will” when I referred to a deed.

I noted in the prior Post that “a” John Bryan issued that “testamentary” deed to his son in 1725. It was written in the deed that the property did not become “owned” by the son until the death of his father and mother.

With that said, note the specifics of this deed of 1731:

Is it not clear to be seen that both the John Bryan (of 1725 deed AND his wife) are deceased by 1728… as is stated above when the son gave the land to his brother? The son could not dispose of the land unless his father was dead.

Now let me kill another John Bryan in 1710. At that date Needham Bryan “conveyed” 170 acres to James Nolliboy. (Needham’s brother John Bryan was involved… which just confuses the matter). The property being sold was noted in 1710 as “being formerly granted John Bryan Deced Bearing date …1682″.

This is where I get to eat some crow. Try as I might, I just cannot make a case for a John Bryan wedged in between one who died between 1680 and 1682 and his son who died in 1728.

Luckily I found instructions…

This is critical to understand… if I am correct that the immigrant died in 1680… then the person being referred to here in 1682 is his son. And he is also dead as is referenced “part of a patten of 344 acres formerly granted John Bryan Deced Bearing date…1682″. If my reasoning is flawed, it is the fuzziness surrounding the patent of 1682… the old man could not have “devised” it in 1682 if he was dead in 1680.

Here is the smoking gun…

Well… at least we have successfully proven the demise of the immigrant. However…that just sounds downright weird.

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March 2, 2023 at 10:35 am

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John Bryan study

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A Jno: Bryan was one of three headrights for Robert Saven in his patent of 1653. Curiously, John Bryan had received his own patent in 1652. I’m not sure what to make of this. By my map calculations these people were only a few miles apart and each in Nansemond. The John Bryan with the patent of 1652 renewed his patent in 1664 – this was not unusual; a sort of grace period was allowed for a colonist to establish himself before having to pay his “rent”. The fact that the headright of Robert Saven shows up a year after the patentee of the same name does not bother me that much logistically… it can easily be the same man. It forms a basis to reasonably conclude that John Bryan was imported to Nansemond “around” 1652 or so. He did not “have” to be an indentured servant to Robert Saven; other arrangements might have been made we are not privy to.

I have just ran across the website of Stephen Ballard where he has dug up some info where that John Bryan apparently transported a couple of “servants” which do not fit on my radar screen. This just rattles my cage. This even causes me to spit out completely unnecessary and irritating analogies.

First my map to orient the actors in this play and then Stephen’s take on the happenings from his point of view…

Stephen Ballard’s take:

“John Bryan’s activities in the Virginia colony are worth noting.

John Bryan patented 168 acres on Indian Creeke, a branch of Nansemum river, joining to patent of Mr. John Garrett, running for length north butting on line of William Storey & c. 15 October 1652,3  Transfer of 4 persons: William Scott, Grace Harris, John Merr, Anne Stonewall.4   He renewed this patent on 17 August 1664.5

Jon Bryan was named a headright in a patent taken by Robert Saven for 150 acres in “Nanzemond County” on 11 June 1653,6

John Bryan patented 200 acres in Upper Norfolk County on 18 March 1662,7 , at south side of the west branch of Nancimond River, lying at south side of Indian Creek, running by Mr. Wm. Denizens &c.  Renewal of patent dated 20 March 1659.8

Jno. Bryan patented 200 acres in Upper Norfolk County, 18 March 1662,9 south side of the west branch of Nancimum River on both sides of the Indian Creek, running by Mr. William Densons line &c.  Renewal of patent dated 20 March 1659.10  He sold this tract to John Moore, who renewed a patent for it on 11 March 1664.11

John Bryan renewed a patent dated 15 October 1652 for 168 acres on the Nansemond River at Indian Creek.12  Seven years later, on 15 August 1659, we see that John Ballard and Lewis Brian, both of Bitton in Glocestershire, were bound to “John Brian, planter, to serve in Virginia: Lewes [Lewis] Brian of Bitton, Glos, yeoman, for 4 years; John Ballard of Bitton, Glos for 6 years.”  On 24 August 1659, “Jon Boulton of Bitton, Glos, bound to John Brian, planter, to serve 4 years in Virginia.” Wilson, p. 433.

We do not find John Bryan claiming John Ballard as a headright.”

Myself, Jennifer from California and David Gammon have been slowly and meticulously gathering notes on these Bryan fellas. We have mostly concluded that Lewis Bryan was the son of John Bryan 1652 so this puts a wrinkle in our ironing… (Lord I do seem to have a problem with these irritating analogies).

Meanwhile, we are on the hunt! to verify these indentured servants… or dismiss this as utter nonsense… whichever. Let loose the hounds… (groan).


In the comments it has been suggested that one of the Bryans used an image of an “anchor” in conjunction with his signature. Of course a tale like that is just TOO much to pass up. Jennifer had previously spied that “strange” mark and we discussed it… she going so far as to work up several comparisons… alas, we came to the conclusion he was indeed illiterate and just got a kick out his weird “mark”. Jennifer seems pretty adamant with her opinion… I just go along to get along…

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February 15, 2023 at 9:31 am

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a Bryan Study, Morattock River

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Including Bridgers Creek and Uraha Swamp. My main focus with this map is a question: Is this James Bryan the man who hailed from Isle of Wight / Nansemond?

I will include a link to a prior Post…

The son in law of that James Bryan was Richard Braswell. He had a son William, who importantly, was not included on his will, because…well, he was dead’rn a doornail. My hunch is that the William Braswell shown on my map is “that” Wm Braswell, which would make him the grandson of James Bryan of IOW / Nansemond. Got it? good… I barely can keep up.

That “simple” question I am asking can clear up some questions several of us are actively researching at the moment.

Also are the other Bryans who need to explain themselves pronto…


A look at the will and witnesses for clues…

Aaron Drake does not leave a will I can find and his whereabouts were unknown in 1731…

a John Mack Daniel is a mystery… (I thought this may be a son of Daniel McDaniel on Uraha Swamp)

a dead end for now…


A sidenote…

Note the patent for Hester Kerby… this gal almost gave me whip lash… I have a couple patents for her and her husband near modern Hertford County and Northampton… indeed, there is a Kirby’s Creek, just to drive the point forward. What and why might they move… also, a woman usually could not patent land in her name unless she was a widow or single (as Traci the Librarian tells me). The I noticed that Rich Square was near by… perhaps there is a Quaker tale to be found here?

Also note the patent for Hardy Council… this guy obviously descends from the Isle of Wight Councils… what interests me is that he appears to be an Indian Trader. He also has a patent just north of the Meherrin Indian tract of land noted on the Moseley map of 1733. Just Google “moseley map 1733” and a great link pops up for the map…well worth the effort. I will soon be uploading my recent work on this overall Chowan “Precinct” map… stay tuned.

Now my obligatorye rants, as I am want to do…

Note the usual castletrash pigs feeding at the trough, Thomas Pollock and his associate William Maule. These guys are the exact same type of government toadies as we have today… Nothing has changed in 300 freaking years. They just nonchalantly fill their pockets with whatever loot they can get there slimy little hands on… in this case land. See Nancy Pelosi…good god that woman gets my goat. I could go on but I will spare you…

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January 28, 2023 at 7:29 am

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TTT James Anderson 1716… Indian Trader?

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That’s my theory and I’m sticking with it…

I visited an obscure site looking for an obscure person and up pops this petition of “maybe” 1732 showing 2 Andersons for that obscure time (1730s).  I’ve yet to find another hard reference for a “Henry” Anderson in Edgecombe Precinct in the 1730s (the “County” came a decade later) .

My point is that in order for these two “petitioners” to be “of age” (21), then they would be born at least 1712… this makes them very early “Edgecombe” Andersons.

Note: The following petition is undated, but appears in the volume containing records from 1664 to 1734; and follows an entry dated November 11, 1732. A similar petition was filed by the citizens of Bertie Precinct.

Read the Petition of the Inhabitants of Edgecombe precinct which is in these words Videlicet

Petition of the Gentlemen of Edgecombe Precinct to alter the Seat of Government
To George Burrington Esqr. His Majestys Capt. General Governour and Commander in chief of the Province of North Carolina

We the Gentlemen and Freeholders of Edgecombe precinct think ourselves Extremely happy under your wise and prudent Administration the good order and peace we see now Established throughout this Province is a most convincing proof of your Excellencys Care and wisdom and deserves the thanks and gratefull Acknowledgment of all men in North Carolina

Good Lord it just chaps my ass to see the olde boys grovel on bended knee before those arrogant sniveling castletrash bafoons…. sorry… got all rebelliously patriotic and stuff… my apologies to you Democrats…

We are sencible Edenton is for many Reasons a very Inconvenient place for the Seat of Government and almost as much may be said against the settling it on Cape Fear River

Therefore we humbly desire and hope your Excellency will take proper measures for fixing the Seat of Government near the Center of the Province which we suppose is between Tar and Neuse River which will give a general Satisfaction to almost all the whole Province and greatly promote the speedy peopling the unsettled part of this Country increase the King’s Quitt Rents and Encourage Trade and Industry and be an Everlasting Demonstration of Goverour Burringtons Kindness to the Inhabitants of North Carolina

That you Sir may in health and happiness long Govern this Province are the Prayers of

Your Excellency most humble and most Obliged Servants

Tranker, James Simons, Will Williams, Pines Welding, Laurence Simcock, Edwd Robinson, Thos. Hodges, John Tapley, John Cotton, Willm. First, John Carpenter, Thos. Tapley, Willm. Reeves, John Robinson, Wm. Hamilton, Alexr. Beane, John Cor, Morris Orane, John Glover, Wm. Cullender, Joseph Richardson, Lewis Elliot, Silvester Estridge, John Gill, Jno. Doron, William Rusil, Chas. Merrit, Samll Murry, John Lew, Henry Anderson, Christ. Beane, James Moor, Benja. Joyner, Geo. Woodliff, Ricd Washington, John Mulkey, Philip Mulkey, Geo. Pace, Rodk. Pearce, Abrah. Ante, Thos. Perry, Danl. Kindal, Henry Jenning, Phil. Murray, Will. Williams Junior, William Paule, Wm. Bauldwin, Jno. Bobbett, William Dennis, Watkin Davis, Robt. Surloe, John Taylor, Thos. Goodson,Henry Guston, James Millikin, Jams. Thomspson, Thos. Jones, John Pratt, Jas. Dyal, Mathew Ruphen, Phillip Jackson, Lewis Davit, Robt. Humphreys, Robt. Humphreys Jr., Wm. Anderson, Thoms. Arrento, Richd Hainsworth Jr., Seth Vatcher, Thomas Hart, Jas. Brogden, John Smith, Robt. Ellis, Thoms. Riggin, Richd. Hill, Rob. Long Junior, Robt Warring, Jonathn. Wright, Will. Norwood, Berry Melton, Chas. McCulloe, Thos. Hicks, John Green, William Fish, Wm. Sturbidge, John Turner Senior, John Tayler, Edward Simons, Small Swaringham, Geo. Bollingson, Wm. Rushen, John Brooke, Wm. Hodges, Robt. Hodges, Danl Crawley,James Smith, John Rogers, Roger Case, Bat. Cheavers, John Branch, Thos. Bradford, W. Bulliloes, Thomas Blackman, Jno. Baldwin, Richd Merrick, Joseph Mechamp, Jas. Moore Junior, Alexr. Wright, William Moore, Walter Turburwell, Isheim Randolph, Nathan Joyner, Joseph Joyner, Gilbert Murray, Peter Ivey, Edward George, James Murray.

(A footnote states that another copy of the petition includes the names of William Whitehead, George Norris and Taphel Dyal.)

Source: Records of the Executive Council, 1664-1734, Vol. 7, (1984) pp. 298 – 299.


There are actually 2 petitions in the records… one for Edgecombe “Precinct” shown above and the second from Bertie Precinct.  The Edgecombe lists Henry Anderson and William Anderson.  The Bertie list contains another William Anderson. So there are 2 Williams at this time of 1732(?).

I suspect the William Anderson of Bertie may be a son of Robert Anderson who lived around Cashy River. But that is a guess.

Two William Andersons that I can identify are the William who dies by 1762 (from Halifax) and my ancestor William who dies in 1789 (Edgecombe) but he was a youngster in 1732 I think.  So I have an obvious interest in the two men of that 1732? Edgecombe petition.

My “gut” is telling me the above William Anderson of the petition is the guy who died in 1762.  I But I am open to any comments..

So… those two guys are on my radar to identify from the Halifax area… but also from there starting in 1716 was one James Anderson … any of these early guys may or may not be related… I don’t know.

The “obscure” guys I was searching for were Henry Guston and James Millikin… who also show up in that petition. Millikin and perhaps Guston each become Justices of the Peace in that odd period of time when Chowan, Bertie and Edgecombe Counties were evolving and being chopped up into separate counties proper.  Millikin is mentioned in other historical documents and very involved with the actual implementation of the future Edgecombe County.  James Millikin (the father) dies intestate about 1737… best I can figure… he was wealthy so much hubbub was made over his rather extensive estate.

Milliken and Guston were both Indian Traders and as I will show were not averse to travel to South Carolina and beyond to trade with the Cherokees.  The unfortunate lack of info concerning James Millikin may be due to the fact that both he and his son of the same name both died before 1754… it may be that the line ended there? Any descendants may only be from the (2) daughters.  (correction.. he did leave an underage son John which I have not attempted to trace)

Halifax Co., NC DB 1-187, dated15 Feb 1736: James Millikin to Margaret Millikin et al: to well-beloved wifeMargaret, slaves and land and money to John Millikin, my son, land when he comes of age, slaves to James Millikin, my son, land under same restrictions as son John, slaves to daughter Agnes 2 negro girls and 1/6 part of household furniture etc. to daughter Elizabeth negroes and 1/6 part of my goods and chattels to daughter Ann slaves and 16 part of household goods At a court held for Edge. Prect. the 3rd Tuesday in May 1737. Thomas Kearney D. C. Ct.
(Elizabeth Joyner, his wife, must have died and he remarried Margaret______) This deed is in essence, a “will”… so he knew he was gravely ill in 1736…

Halifax Co. DB 1-189: a letter to his friends: ask friends Rev. Mr. John Boyd, Mr. Nathan Joyner my brother-in-law, Mr. Phillip Rayford, Mr. Joseph Lane, Robert Warren to manage affairs and look after his children Wit: James Thompson, Richard Grandson, John Wolford, Joseph Montgomery His Majesties Att?y General, John Hodgson, esquire, Joseph Anderson, Robert Foster At a court held for Edge. Prect. the – Tuesday in May 1737 T. Kearney C. C. Ct.
(again this deed is essentially a continuation of his will…in my opinion)

Researcher Tommy Colbert transcribed this telling deed…

Edge. Co. (Halifax) Db 6, page 140, deed date 29 Dec 1756, recorded

Feb Ct 1757, William Richmond, Esq, Edge. Co and Ann, his wife, to Jos.

Montfort, Gentleman, for 200 pds, a tract on the south side of

Conocanary Swamp containing 250 acres, being one half the land commonly

called the “old courthouse land” beginning at the mouth of Barneys

Branch then up the meanders of the said branch along the line of the

land which said Joseph Montford purchased of Simon Wade to three red

oaks then south 60 west along the head line of said line across the

said Barneys Branch to the dividing line between the said Wm. Richmond

and Paul Patrick then along the dividing line to Conocanary Swamp then

down the various courses of the said swamp to the beginning, which said

land was formerly sold by Dr. James Thompson and Mary, his wife, to

(Colo James Millikne), late of Edge. Co, deceased who died intestate 

and thereby said land amongst other lands descended to the said (James 

Killikne) the younger and after his decease to Paul Patrick and Agness 

his wife and Ann Milliken sister and coheirs unto the said James 

Millikin the younger and was by deed date 19 Nov 1754 among other lands

to Paul Patrick and Agness his wife and Wm. Richmond who intermarried

with the said Ann Millikin and Ann his wife copartners in the lands

aforesaid James unto (Wm K??) Jr of Edge. Co, Esq and afterwards by

deed bearing date 9 Dec 1754 was conveyed by the said Wm. Kinchell to

the said Wm Richmond, signed Wm. Richmond, Ann Richmond (mark), wit

George Gibson, John Cotton (mark).  Abstracted 4-30-06, NCA film

C.047.40002, CTC.

Millikin died about 1737 …  I found his estate records at NC Archives online

Nathan Joyner was listed as one of his administrators. 

He (Milliken) had to have came directly from Scotland as he is shown sending money back to his mother in Scotland. See about halfway below:

“remitted to Millikins Mother in Scotland”   50 pounds  (a tidy sum in those days)


But back to the early James Millikin and Henry Guston…


Thursday the 15 day of July 1725.
Arrived here from Tuccaseegee Samuel Brown and John Hewet who I sent for by an Order of the 8th Instant. And having Examined the said Hewet in relation to his being among the Indians without my leave, I found that he was Employed by Mr. Marr and that after he had left the said Marrs Employ that James Millikin Indian Trader Employed him and gave him Orders to Trade by two Letters from the said Millikin which the said Hewet produced to me and having Considered the aforesd Information, I gave Orders to the said Hewet to Stay at Keewohee til the said Milikin Arrived here from the Catawbaws at which time I informed him I should give him further Orders.

Wednesday the 3d day of August 1725.
This Morning appeared before me Ja: Millikin and Henry Guston to Answer a Complt agt them pursuant to my Orders of the 18th of July last in Relation to their Employing one John Hewet for one whole Year in the Indian Trade without my leave or Lycence which I proved before them by Two Letters from them to the said Hewet, wherein they Charge him not to Trade in the presence of any White Man for fear of his being discovered.
And the said Gustin and Millikin pleading that they Employed the said Hewet out of Charity and without any design of defrauding the Country or in Contempt of the Governnfent and hoping that I would take their Case under Consideration and to Shew them as much favour as the Circumstance of the Case would Admitt of, and as would seem mett with me, Promiseing for the future to take care of any further Complt against them, And on Considering the above Complt I Ordered them to give me a Note for the Sum of Thirty pounds payable to the Country it being there due from the said Hewet who Traded for them a whole Year without any Lycence and they having given me their Note accordingly on Mr. Saml. Eveleigh Mercht I then dismist them of the Complt agt them giving them in Charge to take care for the future how they behaved themselv’s, which they Promised to do.

Munday the 6th day of September 1725. This Morning came to me King Crow and some of his head men to Enquire w[ha]t was done with the boy they promised to redeem last Year. I told them that he was among the English learning to make Shoes and that according to their desire he would not be sent over the Great Water and that as soon as they had made a gathering among themselv’s of Skines to pay for him that they might then have him again as soon as they pleased, at which they went away well Satisfyed, the King and head men having heard that I designed to goe to Togelo parts informed me that he with some of his head Men would Accompany me there. Memorand : That John Facey and Wm. Collins are Allowed as Pack- horse Men to James Millikin Indian Trader, he having given an Order on Samuel Eveleigh Mercht in Charles Town payable to the Publick for the Sum of £20, it being required by Law for the Endorsement of the said Pack horse men. Given under my hand and Seal the date above written.

…Tuesday the 12 day of October 1725.
… Came in here from Great Terriquo Ja: Millikin Indian Trader who Informed me that the person (who lately brougt into the saidTown two Womens Scalps) with Eight more were gone out to Warr agt the Upper Creeks and that they had been out Six dales and that they were to return in Twenty dales from their sitting out. He likewise gave us an Accot that their Conjurer had given them Assurance of Success. I must remark that this is the Town that the Cowsaw fellow was reed in by the head Warriour there and by no other of the Town and I am very well Satisfyed that, that Town would never come into a peace (Assurance of wch) We have had since we have been here by their going out to Warr daily against the Creeks.

There are also instances back in North Carolina to undoubtedly link the association to the two Traders…


NC STATE WIDE – COURT – Colonial Court Papers, Group 2:
Freedom of slaves, Commissions for Edenton, Other papers related to slaves

Bond by James MILLLIKEN with Henry GUSTON, bondsman for a caveat
against anyone obtaining a writ to dispossess him a slave Jack, purchased from
Thomas CLEMENS and now in dispute with Robert WILLSFORD and Thomas BRYANT.
Witnesses: James CRAVEN, David ONEAL. n.d.

unsourced…  I’m lazy today…

In 1727 James Castellaw went into business with Henry Guston and James Milikin at the confluence of the Cashie and Roanoke Rivers.

and my personal favorite…

December 31-January 7, 1736
 Williamsburg Gazette
By a Letter from Col. James Millikin, in North-Carolina, dated at Roanoak, December the 10th, we have the following Account, That he received a Letter from Mr. Thomas Brown, of the Cutaboes, the chief Trader there, informing him. That on the 9th of October last, Three Indians came to the House of one William Syms, on Pine tree Creek, and (in his Absence) killed his Wife, another Woman, Three Children, and a Negro Man; and then set Fire to the House, Tis suppos’d they carried a White Girl away with them alive, who liv’d at the House, but can’t be found.
They were followed the next Morning by Five White Men, upon the Track, who found they had stopp’d in the Night, near a Place called Mars-Bluff, on Pedee River, where they had shared the Plunder, and left the bloody Cloaths of the murdered People. The Indians bent their Way Northward, which makes it believ’d they were Tuskaroroes. Mr. Brown wrote the above Account to Col. Millikin, at the Request of the Governor of South-Carolina, desiring him to use his Endeavours to apprehend these horrid Murderers

15 October 1732 Edgecombe County, North Carolina deed of William Sims to James Millikin for land on the south side of Quankey Creek [DB 1:20]

On motion of Mr James Millikin in behalf of the Inhabitants of that part of Bertie Precinct that lyes on the South Side of Roanoke River that a bill for an Act to be preferred to this house for Establishing that part into a precinct by the name of Edgcombe also on the Motion of Mr Maurice Moore in behalf of the Inhabitants of Onslow and Bladen that a bill be preferred to confirm them into seperate precincts which Motions are granted.  1735

???  William Syms Edgecombe County 24 Oct 1755
Daughter: Sarah Whooper (plantation lying on Kehukey). Son: William.
Executor: John Whitaker. Witnesses: Thos. Taylor, Mary Tree, Xtr. Haynes.
No probate

Several Sims had land next to James Anderson about 1720ish in Occoneechee Neck… James Millikin’s plantation was just over the Roanoke River… it was noted on the Moseley Map of 1733 along with Barnaby McKinnie.  Many of these guys are mentioned in the Estate files of Milliken along with Joyners (from modern Southampton County- formerly olde Isle of Wight).

This map is focused on a Thomas Boon… which has a particular fascination to me because it is possible he was in NC in 1668. If he was also an Indian Trader (which I suggest) then he was smack dab in the center of the Trade Route between the Occoneechee Neck traders and the Chowan River.  All the Indian Traders, including possibly the Robert Kicks / Arthur Kavenaugh cabal who were centered at modern Emporia, Virginia in the very early 1700s could have “avoided” any Virginia tariffs and such by shipping their “skins” directly out of North Carolina.   I love a good conspiracy!  And just as a reminder, Black Beard the pirate was not put out of commission until 1718.  He was only one of many pirates in the area.  I have proof that Thomas Pollock (war governor of NC in 1711) was engaged in shipping “skins”… it all adds up in my mind.  The Indian skin trade was BIG BUSINESS… they shipped out TONS of the stuff.



So… since we have a couple of die hard Indian Traders from North Carolina leaving their footprints all over South Carolina I figure I may not be totally off base by thinking that a James Anderson from NC may have been doing the same… or perhaps a son?

Here is an obscure reference from the Milliken Estate records of 1738… I can’t figure out (yet) who this “Mr. Anderson” is?


My speculation here may be wrong simply because I am chasing a hunch… nevertheless, it is my observation of other Indian Traders that they often would “team up” and form partnerships… which could be the case here…

This could be Montgomery, Anderson and Jones (Indian Traders)… they appear to bill the “estate” for 16 pounds & change… that wasn’t chump change back in the day and would warrant the trouble.

There was of course a Joseph Anderson and a John Montgomery who were Government types and heavily in the NC records… so I could be just wasting my time… I don’t know?

So I’ve begun sniffing around for a Montgomery or a Smith lead… and up pops a suspicious Montgomery (Montgomery being a name I have not seen in this early 1720s / 30s period). Note that this guy was living in the Bath County area… that is where James Anderson relocated to in one of his later land transactions…

The old man dies 1723 but he leaves 3 sons…

June 29, 1702 – Thomas WORSLEY appoints friend, Levi TRUEWHITT, Bath County,
Power of Attorney, to have use of 640 acres purchased of George MONTGOMERY of
said county.
Wit: William BARROW
Proved at court held at house of Mr. William BARROW, July 7, 1702

July 7, 1702 – George MONTGOMERY, Pamticoe in County of Bath, and Eliz., my wife,
to Thomas WORSLEY of Virginia – rights to entry 640 acres west side of first fork
in Oyster Creek, running up said creek “until his course be completed” said Oyster
Creek in Matchapongo River.
Wit: William BRICE, William BARROW
Acknowledged at court held at house of William BARROW July 7, 1702

Jan. 3, 1702 – Thomas WORSLEY lays 4 rights upon entry made by George MONTGOMERY
Dec. 19, 1701
Frances MARTIN
Eliza. MARTIN, Jun.
Recorded Feb. 10, 1703

George Montgomery; Bath; January 19, 1722-1723; July 2, 1723; Daughter:
Elizabeth; Other legatees: James, Josias and George Montgomery; Executor: Robt.
Turner; Witnesses: Joseph English, Edwd. Dodd, Jno. Brook; Clerk of the Court:
Jno. Baptiste Ashe    Note daughter Elizabeth…

Patrick Maule Bath County 19 Apr 1736


Beaufort Precinct. Wife: Elizabeth (five negroes “to be delivered after the tar kilns are off and the crop finished”; also plantation at Rumney Marsh with a dwelling house to be built “twenty foot long and sixteen foot wide”). Son: John (five negroes, lands at Smiths Point and Blunts Creek and lot in Bath town). Daughters: Sarah (five negroes and land at Tranters Creek), Barbara (four negroes and the land on Matchapungo Swamp), Mary (four negroes and lands on north dividing and Jacks Creeks). Guardians for children: John and William Gray. Executors: John and William Gray, John Caldom and Robert Boyd. Witnesses: Bart. Fleming, Elizabeth Montgomery, Nehemiah Monk. Clerk of the Court: Jno. Collison. Letters issued June, 1736. Probate not dated.

Patrick Maule; Bath; 1736; Elizabeth Montgomery (witness)

The plot thickens…


… a sidetrack… just to make a point about Indian Traders… these guys would travel across state lines in a heartbeat… it amazes me sometimes.  When I first started researching I had the idea in mind that these early settlers might live and die without venturing perhaps 50 miles from where they were born… and it sometimes was the case, say, for simple farmers.  Such was not the case for the Traders… they were a breed of men a bit out of the ordinary.  And when they were old, worn out and writing their wills they might refer to themselves as “planters”… it was not so in their youth.

Indian Traders “got around” so to speak… as an example…Mr. McGinty was of North Carolina…

“The Deposition of Alexander McGinty, of Cumberland County, Indian Trader

“That this Deponent, with six other Traders, vizt., David Hendricks, Jacob Evans, William Powel, Thomas Hyde, and James Lowery, all of the Province of Pennsylvania, and Jabez Evans, of the Province of Virginia, being on their return of trading with the Cuttawas, a nation who live in the Territories of Carolina, where, on the twenty-sixth day of January, last, attacked and taken prisoners by a company of Coghnawagos, or French Praying Indians, from the River Saint Lawrence, being in number seventy (with whom was one white man, called Philip, a Low Dutchman) at a place about twenty-five miles from the Blue Lick Town, and on the south bank of Cantucky River, which empties itself into Allegheny River about two hundred miles below the Lower Shawnee Town; this Deponent and the said six Traders having then with them in goods, skins, and furs, to the value of seven hundred pounds, Pennsylvania money, which were all taken away from them by the said French Indians. That from thence the said Deponent, with the said David Hendricks, Jacob Evans, William Powell, Thomas Hyde, and Jabez Evans (the said James Lowry having made his escape soon after they were taken as aforesaid, and returned into Pennsylvania, as this Deponent hath since heard), were carried by the said Indians to a French Fort on the Miamis or Twightwee River, and from thence to Fort De Troit, and there the said Jacob Evans and Thomas Hyde ( as they informed this Deponent at the said Fort) were sold by the said Indians to Monsieur Celeron, Commandant of that Fort. And this Deponent, with the said David Hendricks and Jabez Evans were carried forward by the Lake Erie to Niagara, and so through Lake Ontario to the City of Mont Real, and there brought before the General of Canada, who said he would have nothing to do with them, for they were the Indians’ prisoners, and at their disposal. That the said Jacob Evans, Thomas Hyde, and William Powel, were also afterwards sent to Montreal, where this Deponent saw the said Jacob Evans and Thomas Hyde in prison, but were sometime after sent away to Old France, as this Deponent was told at Montreal. That the said William Powel was sent to Canessatawba Town, twenty-six miles from Montreal, and this Deponent to a small Indian Town in the neighborhood of Montreal, where he was kept a prisoner by the said Indians who took him, but was sometimes permitted to go to Montreal. “That the Indians of the Town where he was prisoner, near Montreal, told him that there should not be a white man of the English Nation on Ohio before the next Cold, mean the winter, for the land was their Father’s, the French, and no Englishman should remain there. “That in their passage from Fort DeTroit to Niagara, in Match last, they met on Lake Erie seven battoes at one time, and fifteen at another; and afterwards, in their passage from Niagara to Montreal, they saw on Lake Ontario 160 battoes, or upwards; in all which battoes were embarked French soldiers, with arms and ammunition, some of them having twelve, some ten, and some eight men on board.”

Wow… just Wow… a group of 70 Indians grab your happy ass and cart you off to Canada as a prisoner… and you live to tell about it….

Will of Alexander McGinty

In the name of God, amen, I Alexander McGinty of the County & State of No. Carolina, being weak in body but of perfect mind & memory, thanks be given unto God calling into mind the mortality of my body & knowing that it is appointed for men once to die do make & ordain this my last will and testament, that is to say principally & first of all give & _____ _____ my soul unto the hand of Almighty God ___ it and my body ___ to the earth to be buried in a decent Christian burial at the discretion of my Executors nothing doubting but a the general resurrection I shall possess the same again by the mighty hand of God and as touching such worldly estate whereas it hath pleased God to gie me in this life, I give devise & dispose of the same in the following manner & form

Item – I will & bequeath unto my beloved wife the plantation whereon I now live for her life with all my stock of horses, mares, bulls, cows & calves, sheep & hogs, all the household furniture & farming utensils with all the debts ___ ___ ___ I allow her to collect for her own use with what money we have ___ to be at her own disposal – except one hundred dollars to each of my grandchildren viz. Mary Ann McGinty at the discretion of my ___ put to interest … McGinty … Survey of two hundred & seventy two acres until Henry McDowell my grandson is of age.

Item – I will & bequeath to my grandson Abner McGinty two hundred acres of land in three different surveys joining lines with David & John Parks on the waters of Ready Creek & McAlpins Creek, likewise one survey of 86 acres joining James Maxwell & William Johnston on the head waters of McKee …

Item – I will & bequeath to my grandson Henry McDowell McGinty the plantation whereon I now live together with the survey of one hundred & seventy two acre with the survey of seventy acres joining it and joining lines with William Johnston.

Item – I will & bequeath to my grandson Alexander Crawford (sic) my silver watch & he is to pay each of the following legatees one dollar to my grandson James Crawford one dollar, to my granddaughter Mary Ann Johnston one dollar, to my granddaughter Martha Miller one dollar, to my grandson James Finney one dollar.

Item – If any of my four grandchildren viz. Abner McGinty, Henry McDowell McGinty, Sophia McGinty of Mary Ann McGinty dies under age his or her shares to be equally divided among the rest. Further I do constitute & appoint my wife Mary Ann McGinty, James Montgomery, John Gingles to be the true & lawful executors of this my last will & testament, abrogating & disannulling & making void & of none effect every other will & wills of testament or Testaments by me or in my name made done or executed possessing this oath, ratifying allowing & confirming this & this only as my last will & testament, Witness my hand & seal this 2nd day of April 1802.

Signed, published, pronounced and ___ by the said Alexander McGinty as his last will and testament in the presence of each other have hereto subscribed our names.

Alexander McGinty (seal)

Guy Maxwell

Hannah McGinty

(reading his will alone, you wouldn’t have the foggiest idea of his “alter ego”…)


But back to the hunt… and my suspicions about George Montgomery…  This may or may not be the guy from Bath County, NC… but what the heck… its a LEAD to follow…

The Society of Colonial Wars In The State of South Carolina: Winter court held March 2, 1935 at Mansfield Plantation, Georgetown County, South Carolina

… page 4…
…”Though lands might be granted far from Charles Town,
the authorities discouraged settlements at remote distances on
account of danger irom the Indians, and in 1709, much too
late to be effective, the Assembly passed an act, with a penalty
attached, prohibiting settlement north of the Santee, but
the tide could not be stemmed. The first record of a white
man living north of the river is in 1699: in the last month
of that year, Lawson the explorer, slowly pushing his way
up the Santee then in flood, found shelter at night on the
north bank of the river beneath the roof ot Bartholomew
Gaillard, one of the first of the long line ot South Carolinians
of that name. But the next year, the sloop “Rising Sun,”
entering” Winyah Bay and the Sampit found no white settler,
only Indians and league upon league of towering pines with-
out a clearing. But the settlers were not long in coming :
among the lirst to appear armed with land warrants in 1704
were Benjamin Schenckingh, George Montgomery, Patrick
Stewart and Daniel McGregor. In 1705 George Montgomery,
John Abraham Motte, Peter Stewart and John Sauso took
up large tracts on the Santee. The Huguenots were coming
now : in addition to John Abraham Motte, Henry Bruneau,
Michael Pequott, Philip Gendron, Peter and John Gaillard,
and Daniel Huger, the last of whom got a tract from Land-
grave Smith on the Black River. Then John Bell, senior and
junior, and John Lane who is mentioned often in these early
records but whose name hereabouts has long since disappeared.
He was most active in the founding of the Church north of
the Santee, and the names of himself and of his family are
the first recorded in the parish register of Prince George
Church, Winyah. In 1711 a barony on the lower end of
Waccamaw was granted to Landgrave Robert Daniel, which
he immediately transferred to Landgrave Thomas Smith for
a consideration: this is the present beautiful estate, Hobcaw

This is the first phase: the phase of settlement. Hard,
unremitting toil. The small two-room log house in the clear-
ing, the slow pushing back of the forest, unceasing warfare
against the elements, the all-embracing wilderness ; and always
hard, physical toil. No neighbors, no school, no church, no
doctor, no books, no newspapers, no roads. Indians who
might seldom commit acts of violence but who constantly stole
and plundered, and wandering white men who were often as
much to be feared as the redskin. It was the time of the
laying of foundations; better times were coming, but not
yet. It was a hard, crude life. James Truslow Adams says,
“The decade of about 1700 to 1710 marked the lowest period
of English culture reached in America before or since.” It
could not be otherwise : there was neither time nor means
nor opportunity for the arts, for letters, for recreation, for
leisure. In any age where the people are condemned to
poverty, scanty living and hard labor, culture finds no root
and withers away : a fact which we might well ponder seri-
ously in our own day.

How did they live? First, gathering and selling furs
bear, deer, coon: then soon cattle raising was the leading
industry, and very soon naval stores. This latter industrv
has been one of our mainstays for two hundred years and is
today one of the few we have left. Rice was grown in Caro-
lina prior to 1690 and indigo about the same time: both were
admirably adapted to the soil and the climate and soon became
staple crops and immensely profitable. Tn the course of time
the production and sale of these two commodities became the
basis of our economic and social development in the decades
that followed. Rice culture required slave labor and much of
it : as Georgetown county became the leading rice producing
section on this coast, so it was one of the largest of the slave
holding settlements The eiYect is still with us. as the census
shows exactly two negroes to every white person in the county,
and on this immediate coastal belt the proportion is probable-
four to one. With the development of money crops and slave
labor there came civilization, better homes, and a slow build-
ing up of culture. “

I suspect the author’s motivation was to chronicle some early settlers… I doubt if he was looking for possible Indian Traders looking to establish a “trading post”… just sayin’.

This area of South Carolina is a later time period than the 1730s or so I am discussing… but this is a go – to map I invariably check when sniffing out Traders… the area of Saxe Gotha was a prime location for them to hook up with other traders or just load up supplies, perhaps take a breather… Indians would also trek to the area themselves… it could be big events with much aplomb and hoopla. In any event… many of these names can be associated with North Carolina folks also…

_saxe gotha map_james

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James Pitt was the son of John Pitt (will 1702) the son of the immigrant Robert Pitt (will 1672).  James is noted in his father’s will of 1702. The next hard evidence I find is his mention in the Newport Vestry book in 1743. The last mention (which may or may not be him) is in 1779.  “ORDER BOOK 1768- 1797 Mar 1779 – Patience Pitt exr. Of James Pitt deceased VS. Robert Eley”.  The burning question is when was this guy born? Common sense has to be thrown out… this guy was a mere babe in arms in 1702 or else he was in his 90s in 1779… or older!  His brother Henry died in 1718/19… brother John died 1729. Did he have good genes or what?

So I’m following him in deeds and property… and he seems to be there in the shadows…

2 immigrants shown… Robert Pitt in blue… Henry/son Thomas Pitt in green:  These are primary source patents. I purposely try to avoid any land swaps between folks just to allow the original patents to speak for themselves… and to keep the map simple.  If you are in a hurry just scroll to the bottom of this post for the nitty gritty of 1743.


Note the Thomas Godwin property just northward of Robert Pitt’s 1200 acre patent… I have to place it there because of the other references to other patents but it actually may be below the PITT patent.

At a Court held for Nansemond County April 9th, 1750.
THOMAS GODWIN and JOHN GODWIN, the Executors named in the LAST WILL AND
Testament of THOMAS GODWIN, Gent: deced, refusing to take upon them the
bother of the execution thereof; on the motion of MARGARET GODWIN, relict of
the said THOMAS GODWIN dec’d who made oath according to law: certificate is
granted for her obtaining letters of Administration on the estate of the sd.
THOMAS GODWIN with his said will annexed in due form:  Whereupon she with
EDMOND GODWIN, John Reade, James Pitt, and JOSHUA GODWIN, her securities
entered into bond for that purpose.

Aside from the fact that the principles of the will “didn’t want to be bothered with the execution thereof” … James Pitt showed up and did his bit “for that purpose”… good for him.  But I have digressed into the future, back to 1730s…

Researching the Godwin families would be a daunting task I haven’t found time for… but for my Pitt purposes the father in law for James Pitt would have to be one of the early guys. Here is an interesting site:

Of particular interest is the Bible account of a later Rogers descendant on page 200… since the “known” birth of that Joseph Godwin is precisely Sept 8, 1713 then this cannot be the Joseph I refer to who died in 1757. My reasoning is that James Pitt would be older than his father in law. Not impossible, but irritating to me. Hence the Joseph d. 1757 should be from a generation before.  And note these guys are referred to as “Nansemond” folks. Alternatively, if the Joseph Godwin b. 1713 IS the one whose will is written 1757 with daughter Patience then it is almost certain proof that there is a missing James Pitt between 1703 and 1779.

Bible references are PDGE… pretty damn good evidence, but then some people have some lingering doubts that need to be substantiated with facts… sort of like me.

Another fact-filled site for the GODWIN line is here:


Since I am tracking the land to establish this James Pitt and several land owners are needed for reference which DO NOT show up in the Virginia “Patent” records I will have to paint a word picture.  Thomas Godwin had land adjoining the PITT plantation. Also Andrew Munro (the minister) and his son John Munro evidently had about 600 acres.  If you put the pieces together below… you can see that they all were in close proximity to one another… namely around modern Brewers Creek and crossing over the Nansemond line.

Notes for ANN PITT:

PITT, John: Leg. daughter Martha, the land on which Captain Joseph Bridger

now lives; grandson Joseph Bridger, the land on which John Turner

now lives; daughter Rachel, the land on which Ann Smith now lives,

also the land on which Elizabeth Shaw lives; daughter Esther; daugh-

ter Prudence, the land on which Edward Driver and Robert Smith live;

daughter Ann Godwin, the land on which William Godwin and Samuel

Croom live; grandson William Bridger. Ex., William Godwin. D. De-

cember 19, 1729. R. February 24, 1734.

Wit: Edward Driver, Richard Pilkington. Will Bk #4 Page 43

She married WILLIAM GODWIN, son of THOMAS GODWIN and MARTHA BRIDGER. He was born 1689? in Nansemond County Virginia, and died Abt. 1736 in Isle Of Wight County Virginia.

William Godwin.  Will dated and probated in 1736,

mentions his wife, Ann (Pitt) and children.

“(p. 709) 28 Jun 1725…. William Godwin and His wife , Ann Godwin, of Nansemond County to William Wilkinson of Isle of Wight…. one grist mill and 1 acre of land in the lower parish on Chucatuck Creek (being land bought by Col. Thomas Godwin from Samuel Ferment). 

Wit: Joseph Godwin, James Godwin and Richard Rndyard. William Godwin, Ann (X) Godwin.”

Isle of Wight Deeds, Wills – Vol. 2 1715-1726. p.709.    Hopkins abstract

Children of ANN PITT and WILLIAM GODWIN are:

i. BARNABY9 GODWIN, b. Bef. 1736, Isle Of Wight County Virginia; d. Abt. 1789, Edgecombe County North Carolina.  m. _____ Wilkinson


Marriage Notes for WILLIAM GODWIN and SARAH:

“(p. 295) 1 Feb 1749… William Godwin and wife, Sarah Godwin, of Suffolk Parish in Nansemond County to Thomas Bullock Of Newport Parish in Isle of Wight… 100 acres in Newport Parish (being the land said Godwin lately lived on) adjoining Robert Driver, William Dixon, Barnaby Godwin and William Bullock (being a patent granted Godfrey Hunt for 600 acres who sold it to Henry Rones (?) of Rappahannock County who sold 200 acres on 19 Dec 1688 to Thomas Godwin of Chuckatuck in Nansemond County and he willed it to his son, William Godwin the father of the said William Godwin whos willed it to his sons William Godwin and Barnaby Godwin in equal parts of 100 acres). 

Wit: Benjamin Beal, Lyndia Beal and Jonas Shevers. William Godwin

Rec. 1 Feb 1749″        Hopkins

iii. GEORGE.



Thomas Godwin Nans 3 May 1712/27 May 1714

Wife Martha Godwin land purchased of Thomas Jordan. Son Thomas Godwin. Son 

Joseph Godwin and his two sons Joseph Godwin and Thomas Godwin land purchased 

of Mr. Richard Prestwood. Son Edmund Godwin land purchased ot Mr. Scott and

Mr. Butler. Son William Godwin land purchased of Henry Johnson and Barnaby

Kearny and a parcell next to Bunchley. Two daughters Elizabeth Godwin and

Martha Godwin. Son James Godwin land purchased of William Carter and Mr.

Joseph Ashley. Three youngest children viz William Godwin, James Godwin and

Mary Godwin. Wit: Barnaaby Kearne, John Gray, James Snowden, John Kinder,

James Webb.

Item. I give to my son Joseph Godwin and his two sons Joseph & Thomas the Plantation houses & orchard wherein He lives and land purchased of Mr. Richard Prestweed excepting sixty acres thereof for the use of the ——plantation aforesaid for fireweed and fencing, I say unto my son Joseph Godwin and his aforesd. sons and the heirs male of their bodys or the survivor of them forever, and the sixty acres aforesd. to take its length along Col. Pitts’ line to the mal_____ __. 

(Note that I do have a Patent for Richard Prestwood on my map above…. so “one way or another” Joseph Godwin acquired at least a part of that land! This is the guy who I think is the father in law of James Pitt).

Note these three witnesses to Thomas Godwins will of 1712…

In testimony and witness whereof I hereunto set my hand and fix my seal this third day of May anno domi, one thousand seven hundred and twelve.

Signed sealed, published

and delivered by ye testater Thomas Godwin, (SEAL)

to be his last will & testament

in the presence of us

Bar: Keaene 

John (X his Mark) Gray

James (X his mark) Snowden 

James Webb 

John (X his mark) Kinder

To further prove my point here is an abstract  I did of a deed for Thomas Godwin Junr. for 100 acres in 1746. (This is a Royal patent and not a local deed).

“between Andrew Munrow, John Rutter, Barnaby Kerny & James Webb

This patent was “formerly granted to William Wilkinson in 1715” [no patent for that date that I can find]… he failed to cultivate the land and Thomas Godwin acquired it… and almost comically, the land was re-aquired by Willis Wilkinson in 1763 as Thomas Godwin “failed to pay Quitrents”.  You can’t make this stuff up. But the comedy doesn’t stop there, oh no!… this Wilkinson fiasco continues… see later. It is important for this madness of a proof for James Pitt.  Hell, I could write a book now just on the Wilkinsons.

The metes and bounds go thusly:   beginning by an Island Pond…   (sometimes these references to ponds can be amazing to find the land… providing they still exist after 300 years or so)

S 66 W 20 poles, S 56 W 236, S 35 W 12 (small branch), S 75 E 88 (John Rutter’s line), N 74 E 78 (Barnaby Kerny’s line…pond), N 18 E 76, N 71 E 62 (corner James Webb) N 18 W 63 to first station.

Noting the Willis Wilkinson above is this deed from 1764 or so… he is in the neighborhood and this deed in witnessed by James Pitt… now that I know where to look I am stumbling over him at every turn:

Pitt James 1764

There simply is no doubt that this land was near the 1200 acre PITT patent near Brewer’s Creek.  Ergo… the Joseph Godwin with daughter Patience was the son of Thomas Godwin d. 1714. A later Joseph Godwin in 1787 received a 60 1/2 acre patent “in Nansemond” described as “on the ancient bounds on the said Godwins”  (no metes and bounds given).

Note several of the adjacent property owners above also listed below…

You almost have to be a gymnist to twist and turn and do flips just to follow the various John Pitts that are mentioned… one died 1703, another 1729, 1748, 1760 and so forth… the key is to remember they all were involved with the original 1654 patent of the immigrant Robert Pitt… 


Isle of Wight deed Book 4 1729-1736, Hopkins abstract

(p. 107) 26 Apr 1731…. John Monro to John Pitt… 600 acres in Newport Parish adjoining said John Monro, Col. Bridger, Hall, Bromfield, Jordan, Rutter, Wilkinson, Col. Joseph Godwin, Williams, Snowden, Weatherly and the Great Creek.
Wit: William Cofield and Thomas Godwin
Rec: 26 Apr 1731 John Monro

No mention of a James Pitt in either of these deeds… was John Pitt merely dealing his own land or was James Pitt dead- they co-owned the 1200 acre patent..?  Actually, the Col. John Pitt died in 1702… so this John Pitt is the son of Henry Pitt who was James Pitt’s brother (the brother John Pitt died 1729)…  James Pitt seems not to be a wheeler-dealer type… he is nowhere mentioned in all the government office entanglements such as the couple of early John Pitts.  In other words either a quiet type or else he was dead and I am barking up the wrong tree.

(p. 112) 22 Apr 1731…. John Pitt and wife (not named) to John Monro…. 600 acres bounded by Great Creek, said Monro, Edward Weatherall, Williams, Snowden, Col. Joseph Godwin, Pitt, the Saw Pit Swamp and Back Creek.
Wit: James Everard, James Ingles and Robert Cannon.
Rec: 26 Apr 1731 John Pitt

Note the term Back Creek.

John Pitt, in his will probated Jan 1703, leaves property to son James Pitt. This property is unmistakeably identified with the 1200 acre patent of Robert Pitt of 1654.
“I give to my son JAMES PITT all that land whereon the WIDDOW SNOWDEN and WIDDOW GRAY and ARTHUR MURPHREY now liveth as far into the woods as the main road And as ye road runneth to be ye bounds between him & John Pitt and to bound on the Back Creek. I likewise give my son JAMES PITT one lott or ½ acres of land lying in the towne of Newport it being the 25th lott whereon is the house with Brick Chimneys to him and his heirs lawfully begotten, forever & for want of heirs then to JOHN PITT & his heirs forever.”

In the same will of 1703, John Pitt mentions one “Mr. Monro”…
“I give unto my son HENRY PITT all that tract of land whereon my father COL. ROBERT PITT lived and where MR. MONRO now liveth being twelve hundred acres lying on ye Neck between the Chuckatuck Creek & into the woods.”  (this cannot be the smaller tract of land on Beverly Creek)’

Pitt, John – will dated 6 Dec 1760 recorded 5 Mar 1761. A suit now depending for 500 acres that Captain John Monro died in possession of to be continued for my son; wife Priscilla; son John; daughters Elizabeth and Priscilla; son William Pitt. Witness William Casey, Elizabeth Cutchins and Samuel Cutchins Jr. [7:61]

This Henry Pitt son or grandson, John Pitt is in fact giving away the land John Monro HAD lived  on… You don’t just DO THAT to someone who was a big shot without ramifications (hence the law suit)… It may also be that his father Andrew Monro was also on this land… Andrew Monro sent a letter to the Queen of England for Pete’s sake… he was a Legend in his own mind at least… gimme some facts people!  I can’t find the source now but” I think” the grandson of Robert Pitt d 1672 married the daughter of Andrew Monro and bequeathed his land to the Minister Andrew Monro… which started all this confusion!

I’m interested in how this court squabble ironed out if anyone has a source?  This “John” in 1760 is a couple generations removed  from the original land deal which was prior to 1703!…

The will of John Monro, Gentleman, dated june 20 1760 named legatees: daughter Mary Bryant; granddaughter Sarah Bruant; grandson John Monro Bryant; daughter Lydia; daughter Urania. Executors: son-in-law John Bryant and John Woodley. Witnesses: Joshua Godwin, Thomas Cutchins, & Martha Lillow. Recorded July 3 1760. (Chapman)

Rev. Andrew Monro, of IOW, married Sarah, daughter of Col. Arthur Smith (will proved 1697), and had issue living in 1711, John Monro, Henrietta Monro, Sarah Monro, Mary Monro, (Quarterly, VII., 237, 256, 265)      (see will of Robert Pitt d.1711)

ORDER BOOK 1768- 1797
Mar 1779 – Patience Pitt exr. Of James Pitt deceased VS. Robert Eley

A  record of that court case in 1760 might SOLVE this riddle… I do not have a recourse to the document… a little help here from you PITT folks?

A tidbit of a reference in 1782 may be this widow… A list of Nansemond folks was compiled listing their various losses to the British in the war.  One Patience Pitt is listed as suffering a loss of Furniture for 2 pds, 10 shillings…   In 3 years she apparently had not remarried… does this indicate she was also very old?  Also this suggests my suspicion that James Pitt may have lived just across the Nansemond line and a will for him may have been in those lost records.  This article is also of interest as a sort of census for 1782.


The title of the article is “Losses To The British in Nansemond County, 1782”  page 104 or so…

Quite a puzzle…

James 1 …The Patience Pitt mentioned above as “executrix” of James Pitt was the daughter of Joseph Godwin who left his will 1757, probated 1761.

The next 2 are impossible to be the son of John Pitt d.1703 due to age.

James 2 … from a newspaper article…”Rand, William, dec’d, pursuant to his will, his HHF and several tracts of land in Isle of Wight and Southampton Counties will be sold by his extx., Sophia Rand, and ex., Lewis Allmand; also mentioned are John Rand in Smithfield and William Rand in Southampton County (VG 9 Jan 1772) Rand, William, of Smithfield, dec’d, his admrs., Walter Rand and James Pitt, will sell his houses and lots there (VIC 22 Apr 89).”   This James was still around in 1794:

In a court case (which is clearly James Pitt and Mary Rand), the records indicate the years 1791 through 1793…  with this little tidbit written on the back of one of the papers…”March 1793  Abates by death of the wife”… does this indicate Mary Rand Pitt died in 1793?

James 3 …  Wills and Administrations of Isle of Wight County Virginia 1647-1800, Chapman
To wife MARY; son THOMAS WALKE PITT; (James 4) son JAMES; son EDMUND PITT.
Execs: wife MARY and friend THOMAS WALKE.


Shamelessly tooting my own horn, by consulting my IOW map you can make connections that are impossible without it… for example:

Below are a couple snippits from Bob Bairds site where he discusses the Reynolds family of IOW… they were neighbors of the several Pitts. Of particular interest is the mention of “Jones Creek” which is still on modern maps.

Baird’s site:

1 Oct 1752 Richard Reynolds and Charles Driver witnesses to 15 year lease of Henry Pitt to Giles Driver…”all my land” on the south east side of Jones Creek (except 50 acres known as “Hains”). Giles West is mentioned. Recorded 2 November 1752. [Isle of Wight Deed Book 9, p38 abstracted by Hopkins]

4 Feb 1753 Richard Reynolds, Charles Driver and William Chapman witness deed from Henry Pitt to Giles Driver….50 acres (being part of a patent for 750 acres “formerly granted to my deceased father, Thomas Pitt”) on the south side of Jones Creek. [Isle of Wight Deed Book 9, p98 abstracted by Hopkins]

7 Jun 1754 Deed: Robert Reynolds and his wife Patience Reynolds, to Henry Pitt, 200 acres called “the Pocoson Plantation” adjoining Jordans Mill Swamp, Robert Driver and Turner (?). Signed: Robert Reynolds, Patience (x) Reynolds and Ann (x) Hunt. Witness: Giles Driver. Recorded 7 Nov 1754. [Isle of Wight Deed Book 9, p289 abstracted by Hopkins]

So… in 1752 Henry Pitt leased “all his land” (which would be the original patent of John Sparkes) to Giles Driver… and a year later an additional 50 acres… or ALL of the Jones Creek patent.

And in 1754 Henry Pitt (the grandson or great grandson of the immigrant) evidently was residing on the 200 acre parcel of land on Cypress Creek… which would be impossible to figure out without the map.

This “Cypress Creek” property may even date back to 1668:

1668- Wm Berkley grants unto Arthur Smith 350 acres land upon Cypress Swamp first granted to John ROE 10 Dec 1640 and by him assigned to Christopher Reynolds and from said Reynolds to Arthur Smith. 21 Mar 1643. George Smith assigns all right in this patent to Christopher Hollimas except 200 acres- 100 given ny father Athur Smith to Arthur Long by will and the other 100 acres sold to Wm Oldis 11 Jan 1661. John Jackson, Richard Jordan., Jr. ENDORSED by CHRISTOPHER HOLLYMAN and ANNE his wife to THOMAS PITT 9 Dec 1668.

ah here he finalizes the land deal on Cypress Creek:

1681- Whereas Christopher Hollyman and Mary his wife by deed of sale -1668 sell all that plantation where said Chris. and Mary then lived on Cypress River to be holden of Mr. Pitt, 150 acres and at any time give further assurance- now at the request of said Pitt make absolute conveyance. 9 Jun 1681. JOHN LEAR, Henry Baker

An aside while I’m thinking of it…the land of Thomas Gross and Michael Fulgham was on the original Spark’s patent near modern Jones Creek… per this snippet from Thomas Pitt’s will of 1688:


“I give to THOMAS GROSS and FRANCIS GROSS and their heirs/assignees – all that land where they now live being 130 acres part of SPARKE’s patent”

“I give and bequeath to MICHAEL FULGHAM 50 acres of land part of SPARKES patent.”   according to Joani, Patience Pitt married M. Fulgham which explains the bequest…

One of these Henrys or Thomas’s dies testate but does not list his children in his will… so it is possible a “James” may have been one of those children?????  Who knows at this point?

Here are some notes Joani collected…

Thomas Pitt of Cypress Swamp who died in about 1734, intestate. His accounting was made in that year, and deeds show that he probably had two sons, Thomas d. 1746 m. Martha (of Jones’ Creek) and Henry of Cypress Swamp (d. 1747/48, leaving a will.) Thomas Pitt (d. 1734) was the son of Thomas Pitt (d. 1688) and Mary (d. 1711) who had vast holdings on Cypress Swamp and Thomas, Jr. had a sister named Patience. the Lightfoots and Pitts lived side-by-side. A 1744 deed mentions land on Cypress Swamp, “adjacent Thomas Pitts’ land now in possession of his son Henry Pitts and Henry Lightfoot.” A deed dated 1752 concerning this same land, then being sold to Bartholomew Lightfoot, calls it, land “adjoining Thomas Pitt’s land now in possession of his GRANDSON Henry Pitt(bec. the SON Henry had died in 1748) and said LIghtfoot.” (Robert and Patience LIghtfoot Reynolds sold their property in 1754 to Henry Pitt), Bartholomew Lightfoot did serve as the guardian of Willis Pitt after Henry Pitt, Jr.’s death in 1757.

All of which explains this deed (I think 🙂  And if I am correct then we also can make a reasonable assumption about where everyone mentioned in the deed was living in 1752.

Pitt_Henry 1752IOW

Note that our old buddy William Rand was a signatory in the above deed…. I think he built a bridge north of this  property mid 1750s or so… his daughter eventually marries James Pitt…Good Lord this stuff drives me crazy…  see later below…

Joani is pondering some property of one Joseph Smith… which illustrates a problem with my IOW map; it is only a “snapshot in time” people die and everything changes. Below is the area of where Anthony Jones, Nathanial Bacon (not the “rebel”) and others were originally in the 1600s… By 1713 things had changed…  By the early 1900s and even today this area is referred to as “Smith’s Neck”  ( I have no idea how these folks are connected to Arthur Smith of the town of  Smithfield… make a comment if you have some facts).


This is interesting…

Hopkins iow deeds 1750-1782, pg 72

DB 11-34, 3/24,1762 James Bagnall to Nicholas Parker 125 A being the land said Bagnall now lives on and adj. 13 A of land that James Bagnall bought of Nicholas Smith

Wit John Scarsbrook Wills, Gent., Thomas x McKinney, Joseph Smith and Nicholas Fulgham

HOpkins pg 78 IOW Deeds 1750-1782,

DB11 -118 2/8/1763 Bond of Nicholas Smith to Nicholas ParkerWhereas Nicholas Smith lately sold James Bagnall 13 A on Back Creek in Newport Parish and Bagnall has since sold the 13 A to Nicholas Parker and Nicholas Smith has now sold on 3/3/1757 17 A on the s side of Back Creek and joining the 13 A wit : James x Pitt, William Whitfield, and Henry Applewaite

I’m beginning to think that “Back Creek” may be the smaller creek branching northward off modern Brewer’s Creek.

Chapman pg 214

Nicholas Smith appraised by Joseph Hawkins, Benjamin Hawkins and Thomas Murray ordered 2/7/1765 recorded 3/7/1765

pg 227 examined by Nicholas Parker, Joseph Copeland 10/3/1771 WB 8-94


i. JAMES5 SMITH, b. Bef. 1765.

Notes for JAMES SMITH:

1778 Tristam Norsworthy guardian, pd James Pitt for schooling (Guardian accounts vol 1, image 32010/1778.

All of which happened prior to 1779 which is the date of death for James Pitt, husband of Patience Godwin…. who appears to die intestate.  So did a very old man have his living room set aside for “schooling” the young-uns?

So now for my theory… its what I do 🙂

A point of interest to me now is the idea that James Pitt that married the RAND girl “may” be the son of James that married Patience Godwin…

The evidence would be the 1/2 acre “storefront” property in the town of Smithfield. The store was willed to the elder James in 1703…

 I give to my son JAMES PITT all that land whereon the WIDDOW SNOWDEN and WIDDOW GRAY and ARTHUR MURPHREY now liveth as far into the woods as the main road And as ye road runneth to be ye bounds between him & John Pitt and to bound on the  Back Creek. I likewise give my son JAMES PITT one lott or ½ acres of land lying in the towne of Newport it being the 25th lott whereon is the house with Brick Chimneys to him and his heirs lawfully begotten, forever & for want of heirs then to JOHN PITT & his heirs forever.

I may be off base with the deed below but it is interesting to speculate… the deed conveys six lots in “Newport” in 1759… which appears to be Smithfield. It is Joseph Godwin and Charles Fulgham selling the lots to Mary Applewhaite. My hunch is this Joseph Godwin is the brother in law of James Pitt (no proof, again this is a hunch). My curiosity is merely the lots being sold… James Pitt owned lot # 25.  Henry Pitt, the brother of James was bequeathed Lot #26. Sounds like a bunch of “merchants” to me.  Later, as you will see William Rand owned lot #24.  The elder Joseph Godwin wrote his will in 1757 so this also could be him but I think it is his son?

Godwin_lots Smithfield1759

James Pitt married Mary Rand Smith in 1779 the same year the elder James died.

The father of Mary Rand owned Lot #19 in Smithfield… this younger James helped to settle the estate of Rand.  The question is did the original store of the elder James stay in operation all these years and was it the catalyst for the “meeting and romance” of James and Mary Rand?  Actually Rand had a storefront “next door” to the Pitt store per this deed I just found:

Unrecorded deeds from IOW County. 1770-1779, by Lyndon H. Hart, Southside Virginian article

D. Nov. 10, 1773. Sophia Rand exx. and Lewis Almand ex. of William Rand, dec. of Va. and John Rand son and heir of sd. decedant to Willam Robertson of IW. Public sale in accordance with will of William Rand. L5.3s Lot 24 in Smithfield. witn: John Taylor, will. Henry McKay, Arthr. Smith. receipt witn. by same.

The man that Mary Rand first married was of the Smith’s Neck clan… which is  a short buggy ride from the Pitt plantation.  This also could place James Pitt conveniently to swoon her, if I may wax romantically.

Joseph Smith married and had a son Joseph who married MARY RAND, dau of William and Sophia Rand, 27 March 1773. Issue: WILLIAM RAND SMITH, Nancy and Catherine.

WILLIAM RAND SMITH (son of Mary) married MARTHA NORSWORTHY, dau of George and Christian (Exum) Norsworthy, 21 Nov. 1793. He died in 1810, the last of the male line of Smiths of Smith’s Neck. He had an only daughter, JANE who married WILLIAM HINES, son of Robert and Nancy Peete (Elliott) Hines, 6 Aug 1822. The Smith’s Neck house faced Jones’ Creek and was burned by the Federals in the Civil War. The village of Rescue was built on part of this plantation.

Backing up a bit to 1706 and the elder James Pitt…

(pg. 59) Jan 1706… John Norsworthy, Gent., of Chuckatuck Parish in Nansemond County to Thomas Boyd, Gent. and wife Martha Boyd of the same (being the late wife of Col. George Norsworthy, decd.) for the Love and Affection he has for his mother the said Martha Boyd… -?- acres in Newport Parish in Isle of Wight County and now in the possession of Benjamin Baldwyn and bounded by the upper side of a place called Horse Hall, Ragged Island Creek and the Nansemond County line.  Thomas Boyd is also written as Thomas Bird in this deed.

Wit: John Giles,  Phillarete Giles, Philarete Giles, Jr., Trus Norsworthy  and James Pitt                       Rec: 10 Feb 1706

John Norsworthy

Thomas Boyd

Martha (X) Norsworthy

(pg. 61)  10 Feb 1706… Mr. Trustrum Norsworthy acts as his attorney in the above deed.

Wit: James Pitt and Henry (X) Be….                                                                                                                                  Trus Norsworthy

The above wife of Col. George Norsworthy, Martha, is suspected to be a PITT… she afterwards married Thomas Boyd. (so her Pittness may be researchable?)

All of which would explain the involvement of James Pitt in the deed.   I still marvel at this guy’s AGE… this deed is 1706… since James is merely a witness, he did not have to be “of age”… if he was 16 say, then he would be born 1690 d. 1779… 89 years of age!

Also, the above Trus (Tristram) Norsworthy is purported to have a son Tristram who married Sarah Pitt, daughter of Col. John Pitt and wife Olive.  Col. Pitt would be the father of James Pitt.  One of the daughters of Tristrum Norsworthy… father or son, I’m getting dizzy, also married John Monro who had 600 acres of the original Pitt plantation during this time period… whew!

William Rand Smith died intestate in Isle of Wight about 1810 or so. He was the son of Joseph Smith of “Smith’s Neck” whose widow married James Pitt in 1779.  Smith’s wife was Martha Norsworthy.

He is reported to be the last of the line of the Smiths.

See the Chancery Court case here:

Another earlier Chancery Court case involved a suit against James Pitt and wife Mary on behalf of the step son above:

Commanded to appear in the above case were some interesting folks… Brewer Godwin, Edmund Godwin, William Bagnall and Nicholas Parker… all of which lived near the Pitt plantation on Brewer’s Creek.

Another possible son of the elder James Pitt may be a Joseph Pitt:

Brewer Godwin , Sheriff, IOW

b. abt 1751, d. abt 1800

Father: Edmund Godwin b: ABT 1710

Mother: Ann Applewhaite b: ABT 1712

Marriage 1 Hannah (Parker) Godwin,  leaves will, 1806


Josiah Godwin

Mary Godwin

Dolly Godwin  m. Joseph Pitt

Priscilla Godwin

Brewer Godwin

John Godwin

Wills and Administrations of Isle of Wight County Virginia 1647-1800

CHARLES FULGHAM of Newport Parish.



Leg. to brother Joseph FULGHAM, now living in PLYMOUTH, NEW ENGLAND, with reversion of the bequest to his son Charles; to cousin Martha REYNOLDS, in case she dies, bequest to go to the use of a free school, to be kept in the town of SMITHFIELD; godson BREWER GODWIN; goddaughter Margaret EASON; to Priscilla GODWIN; to Brewer GODWIN’s son Brewer; wife ANN.

Exec. wife ANN FULGHAM, in case of her death, my friend James EASON.

I request Mrs. EASON to have the care of my darling MARTHA REYNOLDS.

Wits: James RONALDSON, Thomas BROWNE, Robert SHEDDON.

Wills and Administrations of Isle of Wight County Virginia 1647-1800




Estate to be divided between BREWER GODWIN and MARTHA REYNOLDS.


Wits: none named.


Seventeenth Century Isle of Wight County, Virginia: A History of the County …

By John Bennett Boddie    pg 191

Ordered that John Jennings Wheadon be appointed a second lieutenant to the Company whereof Goodrich Wilson is Captain.  Brewer Godwin, Sheriff.

At a Court held April 6th, 1780.

Ordered that John Lawrence, Gent., be appointed a Col. of Militia in this county in the room of Tristram Norsworthy, who has resigned the office; that James Wills be appointed a Major in the room of John Lawrence, who is appointed a colonel; that Christopher Dickinson be appointed a Captain in the room of James Wills, who is appointed Major and that Joseph Pitt be appointed a first Lieutenant and George Benn a second to the said Company.

My guess would be the birth date of the above Joseph would be perhaps mid 1750s or so…  ???  Most of these Rev. War guys were early to mid twenties… But I cannot find a pension for this guy, which might mean one of a couple of things: he died before 1832 when the pension accounts started, … or he may have been well off and did not give a damn about a crappy pension?

But then it bugs me to no end that James Pitt would have to be in his 50s to be siring these sons…!!!

So… a 2nd theory, and a bit more plausible, is that there is a James Pitt “unaccounted for” between 1703 and 1779. Perhaps a missing record will show up or a court case will surface which mentions him?

All of which brings up a couple of Isle of Wight PITTs who were Rev. War veterans who were born about… you guessed it… about 1760 or so.. who were they sons of?

Joseph Pitt – Revolutionary War


Joseph Pitt, NC, S.31305

The above named soldier was living in Muhlenberg County, KY, when he applied for pension on 31 December 1832, age 70. He states that he was born in VA in 1762. He enlisted in Edgecomb County, NC in 1779. He removed in childhood to Edgecomb County, NC. In 1803 he moved to Sumner County, TN, and in 1816 moved to Muhlenberg County KY. Henry Pitt made affidavit in Sumner County, TN on January 6, 1834. He knew Joseph Pitt during the war in NC.

Source: Pension Records of Soldiers in Revolutionary War in Muhlenberg County by Annie Walker Burns Bell

Full Text



Joseph Pitt

Muhlenberg Co. in the state of Kentucky who was a Private in the company commanded by Captain Bowen of the regt. commaned by Col. Lowell in the N. Carolina Mila. line for 20 months from 1779.

Inscribed on the Roll of Kentucky at the rate of 66 dollars 66 cents per annum to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.

Certificate of Pension issued the 19 day of February 1834 and sent to Hon. A.G. Hawes H.R.

Arrears to the 4th of Sept. ’33 -> $166.66

Semi-anl. allowance ending 4 Mch. ’34 -> $33.33

[Total] $200.00

{ Revolutionary Claim Act June 7, 1832 }

Recorded by Wm. Allison Clerk

Book C [or possibly E] Vol. 7 Page 23


Declaration in order to obtain the benefits of the Act of Congress passed June 7th, 1832

State of Kentucky

Muhlenberg County Sct.

On the 31st day of December personally appeared in open court before the _____________________________________ Justices of the county court of Muhlenberg County now _____[?] Joseph Pitt a resident of said state of Kentucky and county of Muhlenberg, aged Seventy [70] years who being first duly sworn according to Law, doth on his Oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefits of the Act of Congress passed June 7th, 1832. That this declarant was born in the state of Virginia, removed in childhood to Edgcombe [sic]county North Carolina where he resided unto he removed to the Western county which was in 1803. He first moved in 1803 to Sumner county, Tennessee from which place in 1816 he removed to Muhlenberg Kentucky where he has since resided.

He states that in 1779 he entered the service of the United States and served as herein stated. He first entered in 1779 into the Militia service and served a tour of five months under Colonel Benjamin Lowell, Lieutenant Colonel Prickles [?], Major Jules [?], Captain James Barrow commanded this declarant’s company of which &nbps;    Owens was Lieutenant and John Smith Ensign. He states that during his tour he was in no considerable engagement, but was constantly in the army during the whole period, marching from point to point, and frequently employed in scouting parties. During most of this tour the troops to which he was attached served in South Carolina. During the service General Gates’ defeat took place. This declarant was not in the battle, as the troops to which he belonged did not arrive in time though a forced march was made for the purpose of arriving in time.

This declarant understood that General Sumner commanded the Militia of which declarant was one. He states he volunteers in this service as a common soldier, served throughout it as such until the expiration of the Term of five months when he was lawfully discharged, but that he has lost said discharge believing it could avail him nothing to take care of it. That he [returned] home from this service in October or November 1779 and in the January following entered the service as a volunteer for a three month tour. Colonel      Reed commanded the Militia to which this declarant belonged as a private. Capt. G. Colfield commanded the company of which Frank Williamson was Lieutenant. That they joined the Army as soon as the junction would be formed under General Greene. During this three months this declarant was in no engagement except slight skirmishes while out on scouting parties. His company was actively and variously employed in scouting, reconnoitering & beating up parties of Tories. He did not share in the Battle of Guilford being then out scouting & the express sent for them not finding them in time to warn them it. That he served out this three months and was again lawfully discharged but has not preserved his discharge.

This declarant states that in October 1781 Troops were raised to suppress the Tories who were very troublesome in South Carolina and a part of North Carolina and to push[?] them down Troops were raised, which were[?] called twelve month troops & by some state troops. In this part of North Carolina where declarant lived, the men were classed for this service and one of every twenty which was the number of the class had to serve. This declarant’s class did not stand a draft, as declarant rendered it unnecessary by volunteering. Colonel      Lewis commanded the regiment to which the declarant was attached, Samuel Crofton was Major, Twan[?] Teverton[?] Captain, and Morris Roford Lieutenant. During this tour Troops were employed on the Borders of North Carolina & South Carolina in quelling & extirpating the Tories who were plundering & committing constant depredations. That he had many skirmishes in this service and assisted in quieting the country & killing and driving off the Tories. That he was out & employed during the whole Twelve months at the expiration of which time he was fully discharged but has not preserved his discharge. His 1st discharge was signed by Col. Lowell, the 2nd by Col. Reed & the last by Col. Lewis. He states that he has no documentary evidence and that he knows of no person whose testimony he can procure to testify to his service.

He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity the present and declares that his name is not on the Pension Roll of the agency of any state.

Sworn to & subscribed the day & year aforesaid.

Joseph Pitt

We Ezias W. Earle a Clergyman residing in the County of Muhlenberg and Larry Stringer residing in the same hereby certify that we are well acquainted with Joseph Pitt who has subscribed…


Henry Pitt, born 1760, IOW

Southern Campaign American Revolution Pension Statements & Rosters

Pension application of Henry Pitt S3689 fn13NC Transcribed by Will Graves 9/9/09

[Methodology: Spelling, punctuation and/or grammar have been corrected in some instances for ease of reading and to facilitate searches of the database. Also, the handwriting of the original scribes often lends itself to varying interpretations. Users of this database are urged to view the original and to make their own decision as to how to decipher what the original scribe actually wrote. Blanks appearing in the transcripts reflect blanks in the original. Folks are free to make non-commercial use this transcript in any manner they may see fit, but please extend the courtesy of acknowledging the transcriber—besides, if it turns out the transcript contains mistakes, the resulting embarrassment will fall on the transcriber.]

State of Tennessee Sumner County: August Term of County Court 1832

On this the 20th day of August 1832 personally appeared in open Court, before the

Justices of the said Court Henry Pitt a resident of the County of Sumner and State of Tennessee aged seventy-two years, who being first duly sworn according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7th 1832 —

States that he was born in the County of Isle of Wight in the State of Virginia and moved to the County of Edgecombe in the State of North Carolina, — He was born in the year 1760 — He has a record of his age in his Bible & as given to him by his parents at his residence in this County — he was living in the County of Edgecombe in the State of North Carolina when called into service, and still continued to reside in that County after the revolutionary war ’till the year ’96 when he removed to the County of Sumner and the State of Tennessee where he now lives —

He entered the service of the United States under the following named officers, and served as herein stated —

He belonged to a drafted company commanded by Captain Edward Clinch and served under him for the term of five months. The first Lieutenant of the company was William Hall, the Major was Joseph Clinch the Colonel was by the name of Eaton [Thomas Eaton] and the whole commanded by General Ash [sic, John Ashe] — They marched through the State of South Carolina in pursuit of the Tories, they marched also into the State of Georgia and had an engagement with the enemy at Bryar Creek [sic, Briar Creek] — the re-marched into the State of South Carolina and remained in that State until they were discharged. He had a discharge but it is now lost, he thinks it was signed by Captain Clinch — After he was discharged he returned back to the State of North Carolina — he was called into service a second time for the term of three months, under Captain James Wilson, Lieutenant William Fort. The object of this service was to protect the inhabitants of the Counties in the lower part of the State of North Carolina against the depredations of the Tories. For this last service he had a discharge which has been lost also. He thinks the discharge was signed by Captain Wilson. He does not now recollect the names of any officers except those already stated.

He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present, and declares that his name is not on the roll of the agency of any State.

Sworn to in open Court August 21st 1832. S/ Henry Pitt

Test: S/ A. H. Douglass Clerk

[James Brigance, a clergyman, and Humphrey Mires [Humphrey Myers?] gave the standard supporting affidavit.]


So now for the creme de la creme of the theory for James Pitt & sons…

Remember above the nutty deed swaps from Thomas Godwin to William Wilkinson then back to son Willis Wilkinson… well, it did not stop there… it continued.

The important point for me is the land involved. They were both near the Pitt property of 1200 acres.  3 or 4 generations of Thomas Godwins are on the same property (which can be visualized with the Richard Prestwood patent on my IOW map). The Wilkinson property adjoins the Godwin and Pitt properties.

Below is the Wilkinson and Thomas Godwin land deal of 1782… Joseph Pitt is noted as adjacent to each.  James Pitt died 1779 so he would not be referenced but a son would. Also noted in these records is Brewer Godwin. Remember that Joseph Pitt was a lieutenant in the militia group of Brewer Godwin. And perhaps most importantly the land is described as of Nansemond and Isle of Wight… it must have straddled the county line.


Below is a Chancery Court case which further describes the land involved… it also mentions the principle players I have elaborated on…


Several additions to the 1200 acre patent of Robert Pitt were made by his son Col. John Pitt before his will of 1702…he then bequeaths the land to his 3 sons, John , Henry and James… noted below:

Pitt_Godwin MAP

Note the 1743 “Processioning”  account from the Newport Vestry book:


And here is James Pitt in 1743:

Pitt_Godwin MAP1743

Remember the widow (Patience Pitt)  who was mentioned as losing some furniture in 1782?… this is her. It is pure luck that I even found a mention of her since the Nansemond records are GONE!… this mention was just a random Revolutionary War account that showed up in records outside of Nansemond.

Note that in the will of Joseph Godwin, will of 1757, he left a bequest to his grandson Joseph Pitt… this HAS to be a son of James Pitt the son in law.

I give unto my Grandson Joseph Pitt forty Shillings cash to be paid unto him  immediately after this my will is proved and one young heffer ~

I think that was the son of James Pitt… aka, the lieutenant, of Brewer Godwin’s militia… and he was born prior to 1757…  not sure what he did with the cow?

This “may” be the James Pitt who married Mary Rand… I’m suspicious tho’ because all of his court dealings were in IOW and not Nansemond. There is another James Pitt who married Mary Waite who died about this time also.  An explanation of the IOW court dealings will be shown below… when James Pitt married Mary Rand Smith in 1779 he became guardian for her children of Joseph Smith Jr.  His property was on Smith’s Neck and his children in effect owned that property in IOW… hence James Pitt would deal in that court.

pitt will1799

There are numerous records for the Smith children in the IOW “guardian records”… here are a couple which show the date range that James Pitt dealt with the court:

pitt guardian1790s

If my theory is correct that this James Pitt died in 1799 (or even after that) in Nansemond then any of his later records (and possible children) would be lost in the destruction of those records.  This guy apparently was wealthy (he was in control of multiple plantations merely for the orphans)… what reason would he have to uproot and hit the highway?

All of which simply does not solve the question of my friend Joani as to who was the “daddy” of her James Pitt that wound up in North Carolina… such is genealogy… but I hope it helps the hunt. Her theory is that her James Pitt of North Carolina was from the Henry/Thomas/Henry line of IOW. Looks like she is on the right track.

Another theory I have about theories is that if you prove me wrong then I will have to fess up and then change all my notes to accommodate your new evidence… genealogy is a vicious hobby.

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James Anderson of Perquimans d.1742

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Well I moaned and groaned a bit about buying another book in an earlier post but it turns out to be a good buy.  I found a petition of the James Anderson of Perquimans that reveals a wealth of new information.  Not so much as to glean any new info on his son James… who I “think” may be the progenitor of the Pitt County Andersons, but it does offer many other folks to research. Those other folks may lead to new clues.  All of my research for that James Anderson is found on this Page…

Here is the petition from the NC Archives


Yeah, tough to read, I threw it in for fun… here is the transcript …

The Colonial Records of N.C. (2nd Series, Vol VII), Records of the Executive Council, 1664-1734, Edited by Robert J. Cain, p 637

Petition to President and Council

Date Undetermined    (after 1707… per will of the widow of Thurston)

North: Carolina ss. To the Honorable President and Council

The Humble petition of James Anderson

Humbly Sheweth

That your petitioner haveing maryed Deborah the Daughter of John Thurston deceased who bequeathed by his last Will and Testament his Estate after the Death of his Wife to her Children and left his said Wife and his Son John Executors who are both Since Deceased and the said Mary Executrix of the said Will Surviving the said John the other Executor the said Mary by her last Will did leave Emund Maudlin Executor in trust for the Estate of the said Children Now Soe is it may it please your Honors that all the Children being of Full Age and capeable of Manageing their Legacyes themselves the Said Emund Maudlin doth utterly refuse to render an Account of the said Estate or Deliver the Same.

May it therefore please your Honors to take the premises into your Serious Consideration and Order that the said Emund Maudlin may be Compelled to Deliver and pay the said Estate according as it be queathed by the Will of the Said Thurston. And Shall pray etc.


Here are a few records from various sources…

The North Carolina Historical and Genealogical Register , Vol 1, Hathaway, p. 199

John Thurston & Mary Andrares was Married the ____ August 1669 by Mr. Jeremia Taylor Minister.

What in the world are we to make of the name “Andrares”….. Andrews?

John Thurston the son of John Thurston & Mary his wife was borne the 18th of October 1677.  p. 206

James Sanderson married Deborah daughter of John Thurston, dec’d, her brother John Thurston, (1702).. p. 142

This is obviously “Anderson” and not Sanderson.   (since this fooled Hathaway it might pay to double check any “Sanderson” records)

John Thurston, 10 Apr 1692, Son and Executor: John. Witnesses: Francis Tomes, Thomas Holmson (?), Samuel Nickellson. No probate.


Minutes of the Perquimans Precinct Court

North Carolina. Precinct Court (Perquimans Precinct)

July 08, 1701 – July 09, 1701

Volume 01, Pages 548-550

 p. 549

Juliana Lakar and Ruth Laker Proved A Will of Beniamen Laker by ye Oathes of Richard ffrench And Elisabeth Steward Debro Thuston John More vars Daniel Snooks

Minutes of the Perquimans Precinct Court

North Carolina. Precinct Court (Perquimans Precinct)

February 09, 1703

Volume 01, Pages 575-577

p. 576

Upon a Petition of Mary Coffen Widd

The Sd Mary proves three rights being for the transportation of ffrancis and Mary Coffen and Jno Thursten and Assignes them to her Sonne in Law Richd Rose.



June 17, 1707. July 8, 1707. Deceased husband: JOHN THURSTON. Daughter: HANNAH THURSTON. Granddaughter: SARAH ROSE. Executor: EDMOND MODLIN. Witnesses: GILBERT SMITH, DERBY BRAYEN. Clerk of the Court: THOS. SNODEN.

(Source: Abstracts of North Carolina Wills, By: J. Bryan Grimes, Secretary of State, 1910, Page 75)


April 7, 1701. July 8, 1701. Wife and Executrix: JULIANA (land on Parishes Creek). Daughter: SARAH HARVEY (book, “Grantham’s Church Principles”). Friend: GEORGE BLEIGHTON (“one book, being an Exposition upon the five books of Moses”). Witnesses: RICHARD FRENCH, ELIZABETH STEWARD, DEBORAH THURSTON. Clerk of the Court: JOHN STEPNEY.

(Source: Abstracts of North Carolina Wills, By: J. Bryan Grimes, Secretary of State, 1910, Page 206)


February 6, 1741-1742. December 14, 1742. Sons: JAMES and JOHN. Executor: RICHARD SKINNER. Witnesses: THOMAS JESSOP and THOMAS BATEMAN. Proven before W. SMITH.

(Source: Abstracts of North Carolina Wills, By: J. Bryan Grimes, Secretary of State, 1910, Page 7)


January 27, 1744-1745. March 5, 1745. Executors: CHRISTOPHER SUTTON and ABRAHAM MULLEN. Other legatee: JANE MULLEN. Witnesses: GEORGE WOOD, ELENDER MULLEN. Proven before GAB JOHNSTON.

(Source: Abstracts of North Carolina Wills, By: J. Bryan Grimes, Secretary of State, 1910, Page 8)





No. 13. John Lilly of Perq, in Co of Albemarle, Province of N. C. planter—for 1940 lbs of Pork pd by Wm. Foster of Afore’ Planter—“do sell my plan’ 150a on North-side of the mouth of Perq River.” Jan. 31, 1682. Test’ Samuel Woodrove, Alex Speed, John Thurstone.

No. 321. John Johnson of Perq Pre’ct, for a Con’ pd by James Anderson of same, 15a, being “part of a tract” belonging to John Thurston, (63a) at the mouth of Suttons Creek, adj Joseph Sutton Jun’r, & John Kinsey. Dec. 12, 1711. Test’ Edward Sweeney, Joseph Sutton.

Coffin, Francis, m Mary Thurston, July 21, 1692. (Berkeley Par Reg) d May 5, 1700.

Written by anderson1951

June 27, 2013 at 6:51 pm

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Did J. Bryan Grimes drink?

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Its Thankgiving morning and I’m starting a second pot of coffee plus I didn’t drink myself last night… just sayin’.

The evidence for my suspicion of the late Secretary of State can be found here:

See page 229 and 230 for these damnable abstracts… Thank You Mr. Grimes!

MACKDANIELL, DANIEL        Bertie Precinct

April 16, 1733. Sons: DANIEL, ARCHBELL, ELEXANDER, JAMES. Daughters: MARY, ANN and SARAH MACKDANIELL. Wife and Executrix: SARAH. Witnesses: JNO. ANDERSON, ALEXR. WEIGHT, JOHN BRYAN. No probate.

(Source: Abstracts of North Carolina Wills, By: J. Bryan Grimes, Secretary of State, 1910, Page 230)


MCDANIELL, DANIEL        Bertie Precinct

April 16, 1733. May 2, 1734. Sons: NICHOLAS, DANIEL, JAMES (negroes to each). Daughters: ANN and SARAH MCDANIEL. Wife and Executrix: SARAH. Witnesses: JOHN ANDERSON, ALEX. WIGHT, JOHN BRYAN. Original missing. Recorded in Book 1722-1735, page 295.

(Source: Abstracts of North Carolina Wills, By: J. Bryan Grimes, Secretary of State, 1910, Page 229)

 To be fair to the late Secretary, the miscreant drinkers may be his assistants mentioned in his Foreword – Mssrs Sawyer & Sawyer or the obviously blind proofreader Mr Batchelor.

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James Anderson 1716

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As best as I can figure this James Anderson is the first Anderson in the area of Occoneeche Neck and may be the defining progenitor of the Andersons of the later Halifax and Edgecombe Counties.

CHOWAN PRECINCT. NORTH CAROLINA , 1696-1723  Margaret M. Hofmann  Deed Book B #1

#889 pg. 345, Matthew CAPPS and Elizabeth CAPPS to James ANDERSON, 12 July 1716, assignment of a sale of land formerly belonging to William BRASSWELL. Wit: William BRASSWELL, Edward HOWARD. Reg. 6 Aug. 1716

#890 pg. 346 Elizabeth CAPPS wife of Matthew CAPPS of Meherrin to Robert SHARER  13 July 1716  letter of Attorney to relinquish my Dower of all land my husband hath sold   Wit: Henry WHEELER, James ANDERSON (capital I with horizontal dash across middle) his mark  Reg 6 Aug 1716

This seems to be the current theory regarding this James:

Article by Hugh B. Johnston, “Looking Backward”, March 13, 1966


On July 12, 1716 Matthew (X) and Elizabeth (E) Capps sold James Anderson certain land in Chowan Precinct that formerly belonged to William Brasswell; witnessed by William Brasswell and Edward Howard.  On November 12, 1720, James (I) and Elizabeth (S) Anderson of Chowan Prect. sold Joseph Sims of the same place 100 acres from William Brasswell’s former patent on Cypress Swamp on March 4, 1711-12, adjoining Robert Sims: witnessed by Matthew (M) Russian and William Murphey.  On September 17, 1721, James (I) Anderson of Chowan County sold Robert Sims of the same place for an unspecified sum 100 acres from William Brasswell’s patent on Cypress Swamp dated March 4, 1711-12, “yt. Makes into Morattock River” and adjoining William Boon, Gum Pond, and said Anderson: witnessed by Henry (S) Sims and Henry Wheeler.  On April 20, 1722, James Anderson of Bath County sold Captain John Grey of Albemarle County for 12.0.0 pounds current North Carolina money 400 acres north of Morattock River on Cypress Swamp adjoining William Boon and John Nellson (from 640 acres in Occoneeche Neck in Almemarle County patented by William Brassell and sold to Matthew Capps who sold the same to said Anderson: witnessed by Patrick Maule and Mar. Moore.

Elizabeth Anderson (widow of James Anderson) made her will in Bertie County on November 5, 1732, and it was probated in August Court, 1733:  (1) son James Anderson,  (2) son Carrolus Anderson; (3)  daughter Elizabeth Pitman;  (4)  granddaughter Elizabeth Anderson;  (5)  granddaughter Sarah Anderson;  (6)  witnesses:  Elias Fortt  __ Fortt, and Henry Crompton.

Children of James and Elizabeth Anderson:

1. James Anderson

2.  Carrolus Anderson

3.  Elizabeth Anderson married ___Pitman

(Mr. Johnston “assumed” the daughter married a Pitman… he left out “I give my Daughter Elisebeth Pitmans Son William Anderson one Hiefer”… I note the possibility that she is the daughter of Thomas Pitman, a near neighbor to Elizabeth Anderson.)

(I also question Mr. Johnston’s theory that James was the “husband” of Elizabeth Anderson who left her will in 1733…I think he was her son and the brother of Carolus Anderson.)


In 1994 this interesting article appeared… I have snipped the relevant passages:


…””Using the names of “Licensed Indian traders”, a list of Virginai, North and South Carolina traders was created. A partial list includes Robert LONG, Charles HICKS, John BROWN, William GILCHRIST, Abraham COLSON, James ANDERSON, William KEMP, James MOORE, Richard HYDE, John SIMS, William WILLIAMS, and John PETTYGREW.”…

“Major Robert Mumford and the Families of Plumbtree Island

Further research revealed that the TURBEVILLEs, COLSONs, and CALVERTs worked for Major Robert MUMFORD of Brunswick County, Virginia, and with Thomas WHITMELL. Major MUMFORD was a large land speculator and the descendant of an Indian trading family. The MUMFORDs had traded alongside men like Abraham WOOD, Benjamin HARRISON, Robert BOLLING, William BYRD I, Peter POYTHRESS, and Robert HICKS since the late 1600s.(42)

The TURBEVILLEs learned of the Occoneechee Neck on the Roanoke through their association with Arthur KAVANAUGH and Major Robert MUMFORD. By 1712 both KAVANAUGH and MUMFORD were large landowners in Virginia and North Carolina. KAVANAUGH began selling his North Carolina patents in 1713 and MUMFORD acted as his attorney. Thomas WHITMELL, the Indian trader, bought six hundred acres from KAVANAUGH on the north side of the Morattuck River in 1715.(43)

Before moving to North Carolina, the TURBEVILLEs sold land they owned in Prince George County, Virginia, to Peter MITCHELL, an Indian trader and land speculator.(MITCHELL lived high on the Roanoke River near the CALDWELLs and James LOGAN.) Major MUMFORD acted as Mary TURBEVILLE’s power of attorney and it was witnessed by Arthur KAVANAUGH and John ANDERSON.(44)

ANDERSON was also an Indian trader and land speculator who worked with MUMFORD. Prior to 1722, ANDERSON lived with his family on the Occoneechee Neck of the Roanoke River. Before moving to the Roanoke River and the Occoneechee, ANDERSON had lived in Prince George County, Virginia.

Prince George County records reveal that in the 1704 “Rent Roll of all the Lands held in the County”, the following names were listed: Jno.ANDERSON, Lewis GREEN, Peter JONES, Peter MITCHELL, Hubert GIBSON, Coll.BOLLING, Coll.HARRISON, Arthur KAVANAUGH, Francis POYTHRES Sr., Dan’ll HICKDON[HIGDON],Coll.BYRD, Rob’t.HIX, Robt.MUNFORD, Rich’d.TURBERFIELD, and Wm.EPPES.(45)

In 1722 Major MUMFORD and John ANDERSON were the first individuals to apply for a patent in present-day Mecklenburg County in Virginia. It was for “2811 acres in the fork of Cock’s (now Poplar) Creek” and the Roanoke River.(46)

When Richard TURBEVILLE and his family moved to North Carolina, they lived on the Occoneechee with other Chickasaw traders and next to ANDERSON, COLSON, PACE, MASON, GIBSON, LANG(LONG), and Thomas WHITMELL.(47)

On 1 March 1720 the Lords Proprietors of North Carolina issued patents to Plumbtree Island and on the south side of Plumbtree Swamp abutting the island. These patents went to Thomas WHITMELL, William GREEN, John COTTON, John GEDDES, William REEVES, Barnaby MILTON, and Robert LANG(LONG). Shortly after Thomas WHITMELL obtained his patent on Plumbtree Island, Joseph CALVERT and his family moved on the island.(48) The CALVERTs were later joined by the TURBEVILLEs and COLSONS.”

I think the author erred by lumping the John Anderson with the James Anderson.  In another post I offer a theory of the “Virginia” John vs the “North Carolina” John Anderson.  This James could very well have been a trader at this time however… he was surrounded by them.   (*As a footnote, I’ll post the will of the John Anderson who was associated directly with Munford of Virginia…he was the uncle of this John of Bridgers Creek in NC.)

A compelling argument against my theory can be found here:        The site also gives an excellent trace of Carolus Anderson.


Some details and notes:

Most of these deed transactions involve the original patents of William Braswell in 1711:

Bk. 1, pg. 173, William BRASWELL, 4 Mar. 1711/12, 640 acres on a Cypress swamp issuing out of Morattuck River, joining ye meanders of ye sd. swamp.

Bk. 1, pg. 174, William BRASWELL, 4 Mar. 1711/12, 640 acres on a Cypress swamp on Maratuck River joining John HATHHORN, another Cypress swamp, ye head of ye Meadow branch and ye sd. Cypress swamp.

(This seems to indicate he has 1200+ ac. to deal with)


Matthew Capps seems to make a deal with Thomas Anderson but the sale for 640 acres is made with James Anderson.

Chowan County, North Carolina Cross Index to Deeds – Grantees 1696-1878 Vol B

Transaction: Assignment
1st Grantee Last Name: Anderson
1st Grantee First Name: Thomas
Grantor First Name: Matthew
Grantor Last Name: Capps
Year: 1716
Book: B
Page #: 345


Thursday, July 21, 1715 Court met.

Matthew Capps proves rights for importation of Matthew, and Elizabeth Capps, Sr., Elizabeth, Jr., Mary and Ann Capps, Mary and Elizabeth Powell.

(This shows Capps is pursuing land grants.  By 1729, Capps is living on the property of Robert Sims in Occoneechee Neck…per Will of Sims.)

CHOWAN PRECINCT. NORTH CAROLINA , 1696-1723  Margaret M. Hofmann  Deed Book B #1

#889 pg. 345, Matthew CAPPS and Elizabeth CAPPS to James ANDERSON, 12 July 1716, assignment of a sale of land formerly belonging to William BRASSWELL. Wit: William BRASSWELL, Edward HOWARD. Reg. 6 Aug. 1716

(640 acres in Occoneechee Neck.)

#890 pg. 346 Elizabeth CAPPS wife of Matthew CAPPS of Meherrin to Robert SHARER  13 July 1716  letter of Attorney to relinquish my Dower of all land my husband hath sold   Wit: Henry WHEELER, James ANDERSON (capital I with horizontal dash across middle) his mark  Reg 6 Aug 1716

(Deed Book 1 of then Chowan Precinct shows Henry Wheeler “held and firmly bound unto Robert Sharer  of the upper parish of Isle of Wight Co., Va. in the full and just sum of 10,000 pounds of good and Merchantable Leaf Tobacco and Cast this 23 April 1715. To secure the debt, the said Wheeler conveys to the said Sharer 200 acres on ye south side of Meherrin (Roanoke) River which is part of 300 acres granted to the said Wheeler”  Wheeler finally settles around present day Murfreesboro, NC)

pg. 145, James ANDERSON of Chowan Prect. to Robert SIMS of the Prect. afrsd. 11 Nov. 1720, 20 pounds sterling, 100 acres on a Cypress Swamp that makes into Morattock river, joining William BOON, the Cypress Swamp, a Gum Pond and James ANDERSON’s fence, part of a Pattent to William BRASSWELL dated 4 Mar. 1711/12. Wit.: Henry SIMS (his mark), Henry WHEELER. Ack. 5 7ber 1721 by Henry SIMS before me Fred JONES, Ch. Just. Reg. 17 Sept. 1721.

pg. 176, James ANDERSON of Chowan Prect. and Elizabeth, my wife, to Joseph SIMS of Chowan Prect., 12 Nov. 1720, 24 pounds sterling, 100 acres on the Cypress Swamp that makes out of Morattoke River, joining Robert SIMS, the swamp and a Wett Slash, part of a pattent to William BRASSWELL 4 Mar. 1711/12. Wit.: Matt RUSSIAN, William MURPHEY. Ack. 5 Sept. 1721 by Henry SIMS before me F. JONES, Ch. Just. Reg. 3 8ber 1721.

Colonial Bertie Co., NC Deed Books 1720-1757  Mary Best Bell  Deed Book A

pg. 19. James ANDERSON of Bath County to John GRAY (Capt.) March 3, 1721/22. 400 a. NS Morattock River in Occoneeche Neck. Part of 640 a. surveyed by Coll. William MAULE for William BRASWELL then sold to Matthew CAPPS, and by CAPPS sold to James ANDERSON. Adj. William BOON, John NELLSON. Wit: Patrick MAULE, Mau. MOORE. April 20, 1722. C. GALE, C/C

(This deed involves the sale of 400 acres in addition to the 600 acres that he had sold the year before to the 3 Sims…see Hathaway notes below.)

(John Gray’s will of  1750 mentions “my loving brother Edward Bryan” and “nephew” Thomas Whitmel.)

NC 1663-1729 Abstracts – Hofmann

2384 pg.208  JOHN COTTON  30 July 1726  521 acres on North side of Morattock River in Bertie precinct, joining Ochaneeche Swamp and JAMES ANDERSON which was formerly patented for JOHN NELSON and now resurveyed for sd. COTTON.  Witnesses:  R. EVERARD

August 9, 1727 JOHN COTTON  to WILLIAM LITTLE- 50 Acres Occoneechee Swamp, adjoining JAMES ANDERSON. Wts: Robt. Forster, Edwd. Marshborne. Aug Crt., 1727 B-274

(This deed of 1727 could be clearly stating that James is still living on some remaining property although it “seems” he has sold out… also the will of Elizabeth Anderson of 1733 is clearly referencing a “living” son James.)

(John Cotton Sr. had a “trading post” on the Blackwater River prior to relocating to NC . His son or grandson John is reputed to have married a daughter of Thomas Whitmel the indian trader….William Little is shown on the Mosely map, drawn in 1728, residing at Occoneechee Neck)

1728-28 Aug.  C-259 John Gray to Wm Little 28 Aug 1728 80 pds 400 ac in Occaneachy Neck adj John Cotton on Meherrin part of pat to WM. BRASSWELL & he to James Anderson, then to John Gray now adj Wm. Little. Wit. Robert Foster, John Patterson.

…A List of Jurymen in Bertie Precinct….Jos: Sims, Rob’t Sims, & Hen: Sims (James Anderson and Thomas Anderson are NOT listed)

Acts of the North Carolina General Assembly, 1723

North Carolina. General Assembly

November 23, 1723

CSR Volume 25, Pages 184-209

The North Carolina Historical and Genealogical Register By James Robert Bent Hathaway      p.617/8 (selected names)

James Anderson and wife Elizabeth to Joseph Sims. 100 acres on Cypress Swamp, patented by Wm. Brasswell, Nov. 2, 1720. Test, Matt Russian, Henry Sims, Wm. Murphy.

James Anderson to Robert Sims; Nov. 11, 1720. 100 acres adjoining land of Wm. Boon. Test, Henry Sims, Henry Wheeler.

Same to Same. 200 acres part of a Patent for 600 acres dated Mcli. 5, 1711-2. (Sept. 2nd, 1721.)

Same to Henry Sims. 200 acres adjoining above Sept. 2, 1721. Test, Nic Boon, Wm. Boon.

(Total of 600 acres)


DEED BOOK C #1, Chowan County, N.C.

#1552 pg. 360 JAMES COURLEE to WILLIAM DOWNING  27 Mar. 1721 assignment of a Pattent dated 7 Mar. 1717/18 for 320 acres

Wit.  THOMAS ANDERSON, WILLIAM SHARP   Ack. 29 Mar. 1723 before me C. GALE, C. Just.   Reg. 6 Apr. 1723

(This abstract shows the mystery Thomas in Chowan … he is not on the jury list of 1723)

Transaction: Deed
1st Grantee Last Name: Sims
1st Grantee First Name: Robert
Grantor First Name: Jas
Grantor Last Name: Anderson
Year: 1725
Book: C
Page #: 145


In 1722, a colony of Scotch Highlanders came across the Roanoke from Virginia and settled in a great bend in the river, and gave their settlement the name of Scotland Neck. The exact locality is not known, but it was somewhere in that large belt of fertile lands between the Caledonia farms and Palmyra. It is also unknown as to how many families were in this colony; but they were an industrious set of people, had built comfortable homes, and had raised several good crops of corn, tobacco, and wheat, when a tremendous freshet in the river swept away everything they had accumulated. Becoming discouraged, they abandoned the settlement and went to the Cape Fear country.   History of Halifax County By William Cicero Allen 1918


note the date of all these deed transfers

The North Carolina Historical and Genealogical Register By James Robert Bent Hathaway   p.617/8 (selected names)

Wm. Boon and wife Elizabeth to Thos.. Boon, Jr., July 15, 1721. 50 acres part of 423 acres on South side Meherring River. Test, John Dew, Sr., John Dew, Jr., Rt. Hicks.

Same to Samuel Canady. 100 acres adjoining above; July 15. 1721. Same Tests.

Same to Benj. Fort. 40 acres on Meherrin River. Same date, &c.

Same to Nicholas Boon. 40 acres, &c., &c., as above.

Same to Jacob Boon. 50 acres &e., as above.

Same to Nicholas Boon. 50 acres &c., as above.

Same to Wm. Powell. 200 acres part of Patent for 630 acres; Jan. 10, 1721. Test, Thos. Boon, Rt. Hicks.

Same to Wm. Boon or. 200 acres part of above tract, &c., as above.

James Boon and wife Elizabeth to Wm. Boon. Patent of 600 acres dated Apl. 5, 1720, this deed dated July 15, 1721. Test, Robert Hicks.

Thos. Boon to Wm. Boon. 520 acres on Southside Meherrin River; July 15, 1721. Test, Rt. Hicks.

Jarnes Boon to Stephen Howard. 100 acres on South side Cho- wan River; July 22, 1721. Test, Edward Howard, Robert Hicks.


The records of Albemarle County Courts are to be found in the Court House at Edenton in a fair state of preservation, and contain most of the early history of the Albemarle section of North Carolina. The Courts were held regularly, and in the absence of Court Houses, the private dwellings of her citizens were utilized for that purpose. No record of the existence of any Court House has been found earlier than 1718. This building seems to have been first used Nov 11, 1718 (Col. Rec., Vol. II, page 314), was located at Edenton, and was in existence in 1729. …

It is hard to realize, in this progressive age, the serious inconveniences, privations and hardships that environed the early settlers of Carolina, in every department of life. The country was sparsely settled, neighbors were frequently miles away. Without roads or public conveyances they were forced to make their journeys on foot or horseback along Indian paths or trails, with the savage and wild beast roaming at will the dense forests surrounding them on every side. The Port of Roanoke (Edenton) was the metropolis, and many of those having business, public or private, were compelled in many instances to travel thither as indicated above, from sixty to seventy- five miles, and frequently cross the Albemarle Sound in an ” Indian Dugout,” to reach their courts, or procure such articles as had been imported into the Colony, that were necessary for the maintenance of their families and promotive of their business. The processes of the Courts were executed by a Marshal, who had deputies living in different parts of the several precincts. Arrest and imprisonment for debt was frequent. Their communication the one with the other living at different points in the county was exceedingly difficult. There were no mail routes, and the pockets of the traveller constituted their only mail bags—uncertain, and often vexatious, as carelessness and forgetfulness caused frequently weeks of delay in receiving replies to letters conveyed in this manner. The same difficulty appears in passing the titles to real estate. Deeds were allowed to accumulate in a neighborhood until the number justified the appointment of some one person in the community armed with powers of attorney to repair to the nearest place of Probate, and have them properly probated and recorded, hence we find the same witnesses to perhaps six or eight instruments recorded at the same time….


By about 1722 James Anderson goes off the radar… which accounts for the assumption that he may have died and hence, the prevailing theory that he was the husband of Elizabeth Anderson who left her will in 1733.   But consider my theory:

History of Edgecombe County, North Carolina

pg. 18   The western part of Bertie Precinct increased rapidly in population, making progress both in civilization and importance. By 1723 there were twenty families on Tar River alone. Among the freeholders here in 1723 were James Thigpen, Thomas Elliott, Paul Palmer, James Anderson, Francis Branch, Samuel Spruill, James Long, Thomas Hawkins, William Burgis, William Arren- ton. Some of these families still have representatives among the county’s citizens, while the counties of Halifax and Nash, when cut off, carried some of these settlers, and their descendants also live in those counties.

Unfortunately I can find no documentation or source to substantiate this observation by the authors.

pg. 35  In 1758, the same year the county of Halifax was formed, seven merchants, Thomas Spell, James Anderson, Aquila Suggs, Edward Telfair, Peter Mitchell, Robert Bignall, John Watson were selling merchandise at the village, Tarr Burrow. Two years later, on September 23d, Joseph Howell, then living on Tar River, where the town of Tarboro now stands, sold to James Moir, Aquila Suggs, Lawrence Toole, Elisha Battle, and Benjamin Hunt, one hundred and fifty acres of land for 2,000 pounds proclamation money of the province of North Carolina. This tract of land lay on the south side of Tar River.

Unfortunately again, this does not explain the gap from 1723 to 1758 although this quote can be substantiated:

The Colonial and State records of North Carolina

Petition from the inspectors and merchants of Tarboro concerning the salary of inspectors Spell, Thomas; Bignall, Robert, ca. 1730-1787; Et Al. 1758  Volume 05, Page 961 [From MSS. Records in Office of Secretary of State.]   North Carolina—Edgcombe County.

To His Excellency Arthur Dobbs Esqr Capt General Governor and Commander In Cheafe in and over the Province afsd; and To His Majestys Honorable Counsell: Mr. Speaker and Gentlemen of the House of Burgises

The Petition of the Inspectors and Marchants of the town of Tarr Burrow In the county afsd Whose names are under written Humbly Sheweth that the Salary that is by Law allowed to each Inspector is not a Suffiant Sum for thare troble and featage as they are at and thare Fore We Humbly Pray that the Salary may be Inlarged so as to Put us on an Equality with the Inspectors at the Town of Halifax and We your Petetioners as In Duty Bound shall ever pray, &c.









“A” James Anderson was present in 1753… acting as a “chain carrier” for the survey of William Anderson:

May 5th 1753. Then laid out unto William Anderson 240 Acres of Land in

Edgecomb County Joyning the Lands of Andrew Ross and Widow Pittman

beginning at a white Oak on Ross line Runing thence Et. 272 Pole

to a Pine   then So. 142 Pole to a White Oak on Widow Pittman line

then along her line Wt. 80 pole to a white Oak and Gum then So. Wt. 66 pole

to hers and Price’s Corner  a pine then along Prices line N. 65 W. 122 pole

to a White Oak Price’s Corner N. 25 Wt. along the Stream? to Lawrace

Corner a White Oak then the Same Course to Ross Corner 150 Pole the first

Station   Containing 240 Acres as the above figure Represents

Sworn Chain Carriers                                     Laid out pr

Arthur Anderson Jam.s Conner

James Anderson

These 2 Andersons are not sons of William Anderson (his first sons born 1756/7)… who are they?
Edge. Co. Db 00, page 293, deed date (22 Jun 1761), recorded Jun Ct 1761, James Moir, Aquilla Sugg, Elisha Battle, James Anderson & EdwardTelfair, Commissioners for the Town of Tarborough to James Williamson,for 40 shillings proc money, a tract of one half acre on St George St

known as lot #5, signed James Moir, Aquilla Sugg, Elisha Battle, James

Anderson & Edward Telfair, proved by Edward Telfair. Abstracted 28 May

07, RD copy, CTC.

Edgecombe County Court Minutes 1744-1762, Pub. GoldenWest Marketing Genealogy, March 1988 James Anderson[313]-31  (Sep 1761-Dec 1761)   A Deed from Comisrs. Tarburgh. to Irwin Toole proved by Jas. Anderson[314]-31   A Deed from Comisr. Tarburgh. to Geraldus Toole proved by Jas. Anderson

A Deed from Comisrs. Tarburough to Laurence Toole proved by Jas. Anderson

A Deed from Comsrs. Tarburgh. to Elisha Battle Esq. proved by Jas. Anderson

[324]-36  (Mar 1762)   Deed of Sale from the Comissrs of Tarbourough to Daniel Gardner and an Assignment from sd. Gardner to Thomas Palmer proved by James Anderson and Geraldus Obryan.

[326]-37 (Mar 1762)   A Deed of Sale from the Comissioners of Tarborugh proved by (sic) James Anderson

[334]-42  (Jun 1762)   A Deed Comissrs. of Tarborough to Andrew Little prov_ by James Anderson

A Deed of sale from Comissrs. of Tarborough to Henr_ Irwin proved by James Anderson

Edgecombe County Court Minutes 1763-1774, Book II, Pub. GoldenWest Marketing Genealogy

[28]   (July 1763)   Ordred that Saml. Ruffin Esqr. Sheriff of this County pay Anthoney Warwick for John Woddrop the Sum of fifteen Pounds Pro. formerly granted to Charles Sparkes for moving the Warehouse at Tarborough and assigned by sd. Sparkes to James Anderson & by sd. Anderson to sd. Woddrop.

I’ve found nothing of substance to identify this James Anderson. The “gap” of records from 1723-1750s is understandable “IF” he was an Indian Trader and “voyaged out a trading”.   But there seems to be some “vague” local family tradition concerning him… the account below of a “son” of William Anderson is interesting:  (William did have a son James but he would be too young for the court records above.)

May 13, 1959   (Hugh B. Johnston article) WILLIAM ANDERSON(This traditional account of William Anderson, 1732-1789, was written by Mrs. A.C. Davis of Rocky Mount.)William Anderson…came to Edgecombe about 1732…by old records a Scotsman who did not want to fight England, along with more Scotch in the county, his son James having a store at Tarborough when it was only a ferry and warehouse to collect Quit Rents for the Lords Proprietors or Earl Granville.

His sons and daughters wed mostly in a near-by section and his old home is, I feel sure, where I was brought home a month-old baby to the old home of my grandfather, as his holdings reached from the north side of Tar River.

…But 12 children caused some of them not to have much land and to go back where they probably came from, on the Halifax line where many more Andersons probably lived.

Two wives, and he does not say that the first died, gave him 12 children (last wife is also “Uncle Sam” Davis great-great aunt). My great-grandmother Evalina Anderson was said to be the child of one who lived Scotland Neck, and Nathan Guilford Worsley was of the Worsleys near the head of Conetoe Creek. They came to live where her grandfather William Anderson had probably early in the 1700’s built on Cokey Road high on a red hill top, where oaks and sycamores grew; his house had a great room, smaller room, two shed-rooms, an attic upstairs, basement, small coluned front porch at the chimney (not there now) in slavery times, log kitchen some distance away, and a small back porch used as a dining room on occasion.

Boxwoods in the vegetable garden walk and crepe myrtles among oaks, it was typical of a Scotch Highlander and his descendants, even to those old phlox, of sweet smell, in the vegetable garden as I knew it as a child, for I had this very house as my first home, father living with old Aunts Worsley, sisters of my grandmother, about five miles out from Rocky Mount beyond West Edgecombe School, and it has been in continuous possession of Anderson descendants.  Grandmother Lizzina Worsley Bullock was born there, and it was on the Old Stage Coach Road (Cokey) before anyone had even thought of a war with England, when this home of Andersons was built.

These Andersons…were strong Old Side Baptists who believed in predestination, as most Highland Scotch did, and many left Scotland for North Ireland and America for their Campbellistic belief, but still did not want to fight England.  Many of my kin were stingy and thrifty as Scotch and just as eccentric.  Possibly I am wrong about it, even his house.  It has taken me seventy-six years to study out the origin of this place, my first home, and I expect some will say I am just day dreaming…as to just who once lived on that hill.

I had told the Aunt whom I last visited, Mrs. Frank Bullock that it was at least 150 years old.  Now I am sure I underestimated it by fifty years.  The basement was filled in by my Uncle Frank’s family, the front porch made longer after 1912 and a kitchen built on, but for many years it was as first built, 150 years ago at least, and might even be 250 years now from my memory of it.

William Anderson named his 3rd son James… (was this for an uncle James?)
He named another son Carlos… (was this for an uncle Carolus?)  (The name Carlos is odd to me for the time and also apparently for the historical time as well because Carlos was later referred to as Charles.  Carolus doubtlessly pronounced his full name as can be seen butchered in the records as Carowlus, Curloes, Charles, Carlise, and of course Caroline listed as the name for his Virginia patent)
Just sayin’…
Just to strengthen my theory concerning this deed mentioning James “of Bath County”….   I will insert a section of a 1709 map made by John Lawson…

Colonial Bertie Co., NC Deed Books 1720-1757  Mary Best Bell  Deed Book A

pg. 19. James ANDERSON of Bath County to John GRAY (Capt.) March 3, 1721/22. 400 a. NS Morattock River in Occoneeche Neck. Part of 640 a. surveyed by Coll. William MAULE for William BRASWELL then sold to Matthew CAPPS, and by CAPPS sold to James ANDERSON. Adj. William BOON, John NELLSON. Wit: Patrick MAULE, Mau. MOORE. April 20, 1722. C. GALE, C/C

Note that the “Pampticough River” on this map will later become “Tar River”… to my thinking the “B” of the name BATH is fairly close to where Tarboro will appear some decades later.
(the full map can be seen here  )
Will of John Anderson – 1725 (Deeds etc. 1713-28, page 837, Prince George Co.VA.)In The Name of God, The 3’d day of March 1718. I John Anderson ofPrince George County, being of sound and perfect memory, praise be

given to God for the same, & knowing the uncertainty of this life on

Earth, and being desirous to settle things in order, do make this my

Last Will and Testament in manner and form following, that is to say

first and principally I commend my Soul to Almighty God my Creator

assuredly believing that I shall receive full pardon and free remission

of all my Sins, and be saved by the precious Death and merritts of my

blessed Saviour & Redeemer Jesus Christ, and my Body to the Earth

whence it was taken, to be buried in such decent and Christian manner

as my Executor hereafter named shall think meet and convenient, and as

touching such worldly Estate as the Lord in mercy hath Lent me, my Will

and meaning is, the same shall be employed and bestowed as hereafter by

this my Will is Expressed, and first I do revoke, renounce, frustrate

& make void all Wills by me formerly made, and declare and appoint this

my Last Will and Testament.

Item. I give and bequeath unto my Loveing Brother William Anderson, Two

young Cows and Calves, to him and his heirs.

Item. I give and bequeath unto my Nephew Martha Cocke, wife to James

Powell Cocke the one half of my Entry of Land on the South Side of

Nottoway River at a place called Stony hill Run, and Six Sows with

piggs, to her and her heirs for ever.

Item. I give and bequeath unto my Nephew Ann Herbert, Twenty Pounds

Current mony, to her and her heirs forever.

Item. I give and bequeath unto my Nephew Butler Herbert my Land that I

bought of John Clarke, containing about one hundred and forty Acres, be

the same more or less, and the plantation that Benjamin Blick Lived on,

as was given me by his father John Herbert, and my Indian Woman Mall,

and what mony hath been made out of my Stock of Cattle and hoggs, and

also what mony there is due at Wm. Richard Blands to me, for my voyage

out a trading, I give to him and his heirs for ever.

Item. I give and bequeath unto my Nephew Richard Herbert my plantation

at fox branch containing one hundred and Seventy Acres of Land, and

also the plantation I bought of william Rives, that joins to it

containing one hundred and thirty Acres of Land, and one half of my

Entry of Land on the South Side Nottoway River at a place called Stony

hill run, and my Two Negros Sambo and Jeny, I give to him and his heirs


All the rest of my Estate not yet Disposed of, after my Debts &

Legacy’s are paid, I give and bequeath equally to be divided into two

parts, viz’t. I give and bequeath to my Nephew Butler Herbert one part,

and the other part I give and bequeath to my Nephew Richard Herbert,

and in case they cannot agree, it shall be equally divided between them

as my my Nephew James Powell Cocke shall think fitt, and I do hereby

Will, make, ordain, constitute and appoint my well beloved Nephews

Butler and Richard Herbert my full and whole Executors of this my Last

Will and Testament, In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and

Seal, the day and year above written.

Signed and Seald in the Presence of us.


Thomas Jones

James Mays


At a Court held at Merchants Hope for Prince George County, on the

second Tuesday in September, being the fourteenth Day of the said

month Anno Dom: 1725.

The above written Last Will and Testament of John Anderson dece’d. was

presented into Court by Butler Herbert and Richard Herbert his

Executors who made oath thereto, and it being proved by the oath of

William Westbrook one of the witnesses thereto, is by order of the

Court truly Recorded. And on the motion of the said Butler Herbert and

Richard Herbert & their giving Security, certificate is granted them

for obtaining a probate of the said Will in due form.

Test. Wm. Hamlin Clcur.

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