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another Robert Lang tidbit…

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Anderson researchers will have to bear with me…  my quest of tracking Indian Traders of the 1715 era leads me astray…

from Journals of the Virginia Council, Feb 27, 1714   pg 365  (see my “blogroll” on the right for a link to these Journals… good stuff)

“Whereas Robert Poythres of the County of Prince George being accused of Supplying the Tuscaruros with Ammunition during the prohibition of Trade with the sd Indians was this day brought before the Council, & there charged with the said Offence by the oath of Robert Lang It is the opinion of the Council & accordingly ordered that M’ Attorney Generall do prosecute the sd Pothres at the next General Court for his contempt of the orders of the Government in a matter of such consequence to the Safety of her Majesties Subjects.”

Peter Poythress was the “interpreter” who negotiated the ransom of Baron de Grafenfield (sp?) from the Tuscaroras… something was going on here that I find fascinating… Lang winds up with property in Occoneechee Neck, NC.  (I think it goes without saying that he was messing with the “Big Boys” of Virginia, including Byrd, Hix, etc. if he testified against a Poythress)
scroll down a few posts to see where “a” Robert Lang wound up in S Carolina  (Lang researchers are looking for the link)
Where was Robert Lang residing when he appeared before the Council?  (This leaves little doubt as to his profession)
Update July 2011

Wills and Administrations of Isle of Wight County, Virginia (Books1-3),   Blanche Adams Chapman

BAGNAL, ROBERT:   Leg.- wife Rebecca the land on which John Wright now lives; sister Charity Davis; daughter-in-law Sarah Marshall.   John Watts, James Jordan, John Butler and John Long to divide my estate between my wife and my daughter-in-law.  Wife Extx.   Feb. 27, 1718.  R. April 27, 1719

Wit:  John Long, Thomas Green,  William West.

LONG, EDWARD:  Leg.- son Robert; son Edward; son James.  Wife Extx.  D. Feb. 10. 1718.  R. April 27, 1719.

   Wit:  John Long, John Watts.

LONG, JOHN:  Leg.- son John; daughter Marth; reversion of bequest to son John to Henry and Samson West.  Wife, Extx.  D. March 16, 1720/21.  R. Dec. 28, 1724.

  Wit:  John Long, William West, John Wright.

If my hunch is correct the William West noted above is the son of the “notorious” Wm. West of Bacon’s Rebellion 1676 (an Indian Trader… see my Page “John Browne of Kingsale”).  Even as late as 1719, Isle of Wight Co. extended into what is now Southampton Co. VA…. If I was a LONG researcher I would seriously dig into this connection.

Written by anderson1951

February 26, 2011 at 11:16 pm

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  1. Thank you for your comments and information on Robert Lang. I do believe that the Robert Lang Indian Trader of NC and then SC is the same person. The Robert Lang of NC lived near others in the Indian trade and they seemed to migrate to SC about the same time. The Robert Lang of Saludy, SC who died in 1763 was probably the Robert Lang Jr., who was in Saxa Gotha Township in 1741. The son of this Robert Lang, Richard Lang born 1744, was a Loyalist and went to Spanish East Florida in 1783 at the end of the Revolution. A very interesting family! I would love to know more about Robert Lang Sr.

    compiled and edited by Caroline T. Moore:
    Will Book RR 1767_1771 page 81

    ROBERT LANG, planter. Wife: Millicent. Children: Richard, [others not
    named], land where I [ROBERT LANG] now live except part given Thomas
    Largen. Son-in-law: Thomas Largen, part of land where I [ROBERT LANG]
    now live. Mentions: eldest of my [ROBERT LANG’S] sons to help maintain the
    younger children; residue of estate “amongst all my Children.” Exors: wife;
    son Richard. Wit: Andrew Brown, Daniel Burnet, Henry Foster.
    D: 30 Aug. 1762. P: 22 July 1763. R: nd. p.54.
    From Huxford Genealogical, Inc. Magazine Vol. XX,
    Number 1 March 1983, page 30:
    P5 P462 Millicent Lang, Executor, and Richard Lang,
    Executor and eldest son of Robert Lang Sr. late of Saludy River, 96
    District to Robert Lang, Jr. of same, 6/21/1778, 600 pounds, 160 acres in 96
    District on North side of Saludy River being part of 300 acre tract(?) granted James
    Myrick 2/13/1753 and deeded by him to deceased 5/2/1753, bounded North West
    by lands granted Millicent Lang and North East by Edmund Ellis and South
    West by remainder of tract. Witness: David Lang, Benjamin and Joseph Cook.
    P5 P462 Millicent Lang, of 96 District to Robert Lang of same
    4/12/1778. 100 Acres on North side of Saludy River bounded North East by
    James Lang and North East by Edmund Ellis, South West by William Ellis and
    North East by River. Granted grantor 8/22/1771. 200 pounds. Plat annexed made
    by Robert Lang, D.S. p.463.
    LAURENS COUNTY, page 160
    LANG, ROBERT _w_ Millicent Laurens C.T. Deed N4_357 Oldest son:
    Richard Lang _w_ Sarah __ To Daniel Williams of Halifax Co., Va .__ 250
    A. on Reedy R. of Saluda. Orig Gr. to John Reed 5 Nov. 1775. conv. to Robert
    Lang 1 or 2 March 1756

    By Robert L. Meriwether

    Chapter V
    Between 1736 and 1741 several English names are to be found among the Saxa Gotha plats: Robert Lang senior and junior, William Baker, Thomas Berry, Richard Myrick, and John Gibson had surveys near Savannah Hunt Creek. PAGE 55

    Philip Raiford, Junior and James Leslie were also on Broad River by 1756. Samuel Lines went to the lower Saluda while Robert Lang senior and junior, or two men of their name, went one to the upper Saluda, the other to Crims Creek, a branch of Broad. PAGE 62

    Chapter X
    This troop (a troop of rangers)……was provided for by the assembly in April of 1748 because of the capture of George Haig, the murder of a trader in the Cherokees, and other threats of an Indian outbreak……Within two days after receiving Glen’s letter Francis (James Francis) enlisted twelve men, “All living in Saludy Settlements”. Of the twelve John Turk, Robert Lang, Charles Banks, David Ball, John Reed, and Henry Foster received warrants in the Saluda valley between 1749 and 1755,……Francis begged the governor to allow him to enlist two more white men in place of the Indians,(each troop had two friendly Indians) and gave a hint of the occupation of his neighbors by saying that “As for their usefulness in hunting provision…I question whether e’er an Indian on the main can compare with some of the men in listed, not only in killing provisions or the like but any other property that an Indian is adapted to,” PAGE 119

    Charles Banks was also from the northward and formerly in the Cherokee trade. Robert Lang and his father had land in Saxa Gotha by 1740 and at some time one or both of them probably were also traders. PAGE 120

    Chapter XI
    Robert Lang in 1757 asked the Commons House to pay him twenty pounds for the plundering of cattle and goods, and the burning of his house by the Cherokees. PAGE 131



    February 27, 2011 at 5:43 pm

  2. More on Robert Lang.
    From the Early Clarks of Carolina By Doug Tucker

    Edward Clark Jr’s immediate neighbors included many of the so called Chickasaw Indian Traders, e.g. Robert Lang, John Pace, Thomas Whitmell, etc. Who settled near Occoneechee Neck between 1713 and 1725. These traders would take Indian trail south in the late fall to the Chickasaw and Cherokee winter camps along the bluffs of the Broad River.

    Both Gibsons were part of the small community of Indian traders known as the “Chickasaw Traders” who between 1710 and 1730, settled along the main north/south Indian trail near where if forded the Morattock (later Roanoke) River, and area the traders named Occoneechee Neck. Chowan and Bertie Precinct land records establish that Gideon Gibson acquired land from William Maule and Robert Lang (an Indian trader) in 1721 and 1722 along the south shore of the Roanoke River adjacent to Quankey Creek.

    Royal Grants, Volume 42, page 123
    George III to Robert Lang Junior, 150 acres in Saxegotha Township in Berkley County on
    Santee River, adj. land laid out to Robert Lang Senior, dated 5 June 1742.
    8 May 1722
    Robert Lang sold to Gideon Gibson 540 acres on S.W. side of Moratuck River and Quinns Creek



    February 27, 2011 at 6:42 pm

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