Andersons of Colonial N. Carolina

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response to Guy re his comments

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This is where I figure these folks were… Tarboro is shown for reference.  My name is Marc Anderson by the way, not sure who Carolyn is 🙂

I’m curious where the “Falling Run” is in Nash Co. that you refer to… I’m pretty sure that this is the correct local but will entertain your observations.  I have a link on the sidebar for Topoquest to zoom in to the area showing this “Falling Run” in Edgecombe.

Below is an enlarged pic showing the date of Elizabeth Pitman’s survey… I’ve pondered the date and am convinced it is 1740.

The original penman was no-nonsense and not prone to the Virginia-style flourishes…this appears to me to be a mere “pen drag” making the zero confusing.  With that said however, he did get pretty fancy with the “7” in the date… mayhaps he had a sip of cider and was tempted to throw caution to the wind.

If this Elizabeth was the wife of the adjoining property James Pitman I wish someone more knowledgeable than me can explain why and how this couple would pursue separate grants?  I know that women received grants but in the cases I’ve seen it was due to the death of a spouse or inheritance… neither appears to be the case here…ergo, my speculation that she was single.

Also the time-span from survey to patent is not unusual… note William Anderson: survey 1752- grant-1760. (But to the contrary- Daniel Ross seems to have zipped through the process in only one year)

The other deeds that you referenced seem to me to be in the area that you are focused on…if you can provide more specifics (survey boundaries) I can plot them (I have Metes and Bounds software and use Adobe Illustrator/Photoshop)

Update: James Pitman property….  this is how the survey plots lay out.  This is my arbitrary placement according to the later reference to Widow Pitman… the western boundary is Falling Run.  (Click the map to open in another window then use  Ctrl +- to zoom)

Written by anderson1951

December 12, 2009 at 4:15 am

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  1. Look at the other zeros. They are open in the center and have loops at the top.

    If you could find examples of other surveys by the same surveyor it might settle the mnatter.

    Nine years between survey and record of grant would be unbelievable. Can you show me an example of another such nine-year gap between survey and record of grant?

    The land on the 1733 Moseley map was probably that of Caroline Anderson.

    Anderson, Caroline, Publication 31 October 1726, Isle of Wight County, 180 acres on the South side of Meherrin River, beginning &c. on the bank of sd. river, thence &c. a line tree in the Country line, Land Office Patents No. 13, 1725-1730 (v.1 & 2 p.1-540), p. 36 (Reel 12) “. . . unto Caroline Anderfon of the Isle of Wight County . . . (180 acres) . . . lying and being on the South Side of Maherine River in the County of Isle of Wight aforesaid . . . Beginning at a (__)lly (upon?) the Bank of the (Said?) River Thence South Nine degrees (___) Twenty ffour pole to a Hicary a(___) Tree in the Country(sic) line Thence by the Country(sic) Line East Three hundred Thirty ffive poles to a red Oak Then North Thirty Degrees (___) One hundred Sixty ffour pole to a Beech Then South Seventy ffive degrees (___) One hundred Twenty Two poles to a White Oak by the Side of Maherine River aforsaid and up tthe Several Meanders of the Said River toye Beginning . . .” October 1726 VPB 13 p36 Caroline Anderson of 180a Isle of Wight County

    Poss neighbor Martin Dawson:

    Dawson, Martin, Publication 16 June 1726, Virginia State Land Office. Patents 1-42, reels 1-41,Note Location: Isle of Wight County, 200 acres on the north side of Meherrin River. Beg.g &c. on the north side of the Quarter Branch &c, Land Office Patents No. 13, 1725-1730 (v.1 & 2 p.1-540), p. 127 (Reel 12) “lying and being on the North Side Maherine River” on the edge of the Lowergrounds of Meherrin River.



    December 21, 2009 at 7:13 am

    • “Nine years between survey and record of grant would be unbelievable. Can you show me an example of another such nine-year gap between survey and record of grant?”

      …Wm Anderson: 2 dates appear on his survey- one is by the map: 4 April 1752… the other date is in the body of the written survey: May 5, 1753…..his Indenture is dated Feb 2, 1760…. 8 years.

      If the date of Eliz Pitman’s survey is 1746 and not 1740 as I think, it could explain that her husband was the James Pitman with the adjoining property and he died leaving her a widow. Several nagging questions on my part though… Who was her husband James Pitman? He appears to die or leave the area by 1746…she appears to die by mid-1760s… the apparent ages would have them born ca. 1690s-early 1700s.
      If the date is 1740 then my theory sounds plausible.



      December 22, 2009 at 1:56 am

  2. Members of this extended Pitman family owned land on Tar River, Buck Swamp, Beech Branch (Beach Run), Falling Run and White Oak Swamp.

    The map below shows those points and Rocky Mount is at the bottom SW corner:

    Stoney Creek is not on that map.



    December 21, 2009 at 7:23 am

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