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Meherrin River / Brantley study.

This area also has a few Indian Traders…

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July 15, 2021 at 11:51 am

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Daniel McDaniel’s periauger

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From his Inventory after his death… ca. 1733 or so…

(there was a delay and his widow re-married to one John Anderson, hence my interest)

North Carolina

Edgecomb County

February 1741/2 To the worshipful Court Now Sitting This Being a true and perfect Inventory of all and Singular of the personall Estate of Daniel McDaniel Descd By me —–

Serah Anderson Exittrix *e —-

Three Negroes

845 Head of Cattle   [this isn’t a misprint]

4 Horses and one Mare

1 Perre Auger 

[snip]   


http://beaufortartist.blogspot.com/2007/10/periauger.html

An account of the construction and use of the periauger was described by Englishman John Lawson (1674?–1711) an explorer, naturalist and writer, on his travels in 1701 in what is today, South Carolina. The account was published in his diaries in 1709.

The next day we entered Santee river’s mouth, . . . As we row’d up the river, we found the land towards the mouth, and for about sixteen miles up it, scarce any thing but swamp and percoarson, affording vast ciprus-trees, of which the French make canoes, that will carry fifty or sixty barrels. After the tree is moulded and dug, they saw them in two pieces and so put a plank between, and even a small Keel, to preserve them from the Oyster-Banks, which are innumerable in the Creeks and Bays betwixt the French settlement and Charles-Town.

They carry two masts and Bermudas sails, which makes them very handy and fit for their purpose; . . . . Of these great trees the pereaugers and canoes are scoop’d and made; which sort of vessels are chiefly to pass over the rivers, creeks, and bays; and to transport goods and lumber from one river to another. Some are so large as to carry thirty barrels, tho’ of one entire piece of timber. Others that are split down the bottom, and a piece added thereto, will carry eighty, or an hundred. Several have gone out our inlets on the ocean to Virginia, laden with pork, and other produce of the country. Of these trees curious boats for pleasure may be made, and other necessary craft…. This wood is very lasting, and free from the rot. A canoe of it will outlast four boats, and seldom wants repair.[3]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Periauger

Just do a search on my search box for “McDaniel”… I have some notes… (smiling)

an aside… most folks don’t know squat ’bout Long Leaf Pines… they were HUGE and abundant…

an aside of the above aside about Longleaf Pines… I found this quote interesting:

“The Kume property line tree in Southampton County is most likely the sole remaining tree from a former longleaf
pine stand. We base this conclusion on the large diameter of the tree (53 cm.), the proximity of the South Quay
site, and land use practices. Properly line trees are frequently not cut in logging operations and may reflect former forest composition. The Kume property line tree is then probably the last, old survivor of a longleaf pine stand at this site.”

The article I am about to link is about the area of Southside Virginia that myself and most of you folks visiting here are interested in… in other words… I just find this oddly interesting.

Click to access LAC154.PDF

I’m a disturbed old phart with a weird sense of humor. Instead of leaving a RIP tombstone with the inscription “I Told You I Was Sick”, I am thinking of getting my hands on some of these Longleaf Pine saplings and sprinkle them around my “God’s Little Acre” of property I have here in Florida… then in about a century down the line some folks will stand around and possibly comment with a question like “What in the hell kind of tree is THAT thing?…Good Lord!”

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July 9, 2021 at 5:47 pm

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a Blount lead…

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To Justin … you are researching Collins near Indian Woods… this mentions Roquist Swamp. I’m curious of any reactions to this land deal… quite a few folks mentioned. This is too garbled for me to draw the metes and bounds in my usual manner but it is not impossible. By surrounding the area with other complete deeds it can be fairly well established… it just takes a lot of time and tedious effort.

The Colson reference also intrigues me. Colson was a Trader who I thought was situated at Occoneechee Neck but here some Colsons are around Indian Woods.

I’m just throwing this out for any comments… I will probably return to it later…

I leave the family info up to you folks… I’m tracking the Traders (which is what I think Blount was).


Owen McDaniel’s church…

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July 9, 2021 at 4:18 am

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the Tuscarora Town

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I’ve veered off track of my study of Occoneechee Neck and ventured down the Morattock River east of Conoho Creek in Edgecombe County… because lo’ and behold, I find (perhaps?) Daniel McDaniel and some of his cohorts. One of those guys is of particular interest because I find a vague tie-in or clue of sorts to involve one Thomas Busby (the younger). My hunch is that this Busby is a half-blood son of the Surry County, Virginia indian interpreter of the same name. The elder Busby arranged for the “indian boy” to be apprenticed in Surry County about 1684 or so. If I am correct in going out on this limb, then the Busby I’m tracking is the half blood son of the Virginia Interpreter (of some fame) and an indian woman (possibly even Tuscarora). (There is no proof of this… I am just theorizing… its what I do).

You will note on my Occoneechee Neck map in the lower right corner that I ran out of room… hence, this map. Where I am also out of room.

I’ve expanded the map… this is an interesting place (don’t put too much confidence in where I have these people, some will have to be moved because I don’t have enough puzzle pieces yet.) also I am experimenting with this PDF format to see if it is easier to read, also the filesize is smaller (let me know if this format is better for you?)

an aside… Traci the librarian mentioned to me years ago that steamboats would plow up the Roanoke River as far as Tarboro… note in the pretty blue section of the map along the southern section that it is notated “Steamboat Route”. (these USGS map sections are the oldest I can find)

Notice that I have Daniel McDaniel also placed down here… I do not know if this is correct but I am playing out these cards as I deal the deck (I move these deeds in a heartbeat if so inclined)… note also a Owen McDaniel… I have never been able to connect him to the Daniel McDaniel. But this is suspicious… note also the John McDaniel on the other side of the Roanoke River near Conoho. This John McDaniel is not in McDaniel’s 1734 will. It could be this is an older son from a first marriage as I have speculated… was Owen McDaniel possibly another son? Also an Owen McDonell shows up… same person?

This group of folks is a brand new can o’ worms I have opened up… I think this area is the highway link to the Cashy Town boys further east.

The Tuscarora Indian tribe were mere pawns in the bigger picture. The James Blount noted in one of the deeds is more than likely the next King or “Chief” of the Tuscarora after Tom Blount died. If that is correct then isn’t it interesting that he is seemingly more “white” than indian with his “dealings” with all this court business? Also, while I am on this speculative track, a few WESTS, such as Thomas West, who is nearby on Cashia Creek area is also supposedly a half or at least quarter blood indian… and these WESTS are big wigs in the Genteel class… whats up with that? These are not club wielding, throat cutting savages… nor does it seem was Tom Blunt (who needed an interpreter?)

Remember that I am trying to nail down where Daniel McDaniel was located exactly near the Occoneechee Neck area, I suspect he was in both places with his particular business (recall that he had a periauger listed in his inventory- he sailed/rowed the waterways of this area… thats what He did).

A warning… I found this article to be depressing. The author pretty much tells it like he sees it… no fluff, just the facts. I respect that.

http://ncgenweb.us/bertie/indianwoodslostreservation.html

This article is also interesting in sorting out some of the players.

https://rockyrivernc.com/2017/09/16/our-family-and-neighbors-pt-2/


Here is a bit more history on my compilation of Daniel McDaniel… it is incomplete as I have still not figured out where he actually lived… or died for that matter. I do think I have finally proved he was the dirty rotten SOB what was involved in the death of the seemingly obnoxious Eben Ezer Taylor, Clerk. Feel free to comment about where in hell he lived…

Along the way of researching McDaniel, I fell in to the rabbit hole of Robert Atkins (his co-felonious rouge) in the Eben Ezer Taylor saga. Now added to that rabbit hole list is Thomas Busby the half-breed son of the Surry County based Virginia Indian Interpreter and Trader. Here are some notes I have accumulated to pique your interest… the last bit is just raw notes I culled from an interesting and in depth article (I think I cited the link).

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July 7, 2021 at 3:16 pm

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added a New Page… Occoneechee Neck Indian Traders

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See under Pages on the right…

I am beside myself with this map… it is the culmination of twenty years of plodding along finding leads here and there. But thanks to some advice from Traci the Librarian I have found the motherload of data I have not ever been privy to. I literally cannot find enough time to research all the leads I now have.

This area of Oconeechee Neck is a “ghost town” in the literal sense of the term. But compared to the ghost towns we are familiar with from the Cowboy era of the Old West, this area has left nary a trace… it is barren of any traces of the era. (that I know of). I have a link to a similar place near the Cashy River which may have a remnant or two of some old wooden bridges.

I will be updating this map as often as I can… fascinating stuff… loads of history, you know, true, actual history.

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July 4, 2021 at 3:15 pm

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James Anderson 1716

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This guy has driven me to drink to excess the last 20 years…

Now that I have published my new map

I have discovered (or in my case, rediscovered) some interesting leads concerning this guy.

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A comparison of signature marks from two Elizabeth Andersons …

The first is from the will of Elisabeth Anderson’s will of 1732/3. The second is the wife of James Anderson from the deed of sale of land to Joseph Sims in 1721.

My regret as to this being “proof” of the different women is that the 1733 will signature mark was seemingly signed by her daughter. My interpretation of the term “interlined” is that it was added by another hand than her own. But to my point, the second signature mark is clearly an “S”.

My contention is that the 1733 Elisabeth Anderson was his mother. My other theory is that George Anderson, from Isle of Wight, was the husband of Elisabeth who left the will.


I recently found this deed to Joseph Sims… I am no expert but this “may” be his and her “actual” marks by their own hand. This appears to me, without looking at the originals, to be original documents and not a re-copy.

Note the signature mark of his wife Eizabeth. This has prompted me to speculate his wife may be a daughter of this Joseph Sims. I have no proof whatsover… just a feeble hunch and sometimes hunches can be like grabbing a falling knife. (see my lunacy when I convinced myself Elizabeth Pitman was actually a Pitman and not an Anderson gal)

Why would she use an “S” for her mark and not an “E”? My friend David Gammon (noted author of numerous NC abstract books and no slouch when it comes these things) explained to me that the “I” when used instead of “J” for “James” (a capital I with the distinctive slash in the middle) is the LATIN alphabet letter for “J”. Makes sense to me. That “I” with the slash is pretty common in the colonial era… I have seen it numerous times for numerous people. Did he (James) not remember to put the slash in the middle this time? Did the scribe simply overlook that detail. Good Lord… I do get wrapped up in details don’t I?

James Anderson did NOT move to Bath County.(well, my current theory is that he DID NOT) Or if he did it was merely to pick up a case of whiskey to trade to the Indians. (Just KIDDING! I’m sure that James was a teetoteller.)

A side note… Anyone sharing my fascination with this piece of history is welcome to contribute. (I am refering to the Occoneechee Neck Indian Trader Map). While I am finding and building the puzzle pieces that I use to form the map, I get burned out, bored and tend to just break away to keep some modicum of sanity.

I use the Chowan deeds as the First patents/grants. These are almost always the first time this land has been divied up since the Indians were present. If you have a particular ancestor I have not addressed, leave a comment. The Chowan deeds are abstracted by Hofmann in 2 books: North Carolina 1663-1729 Abstracts of Land Patents and Chowan Precinct “Deed” Books 1696-1723.

Secondly, the Bertie deeds, as abstracted by Bell, seem to me to be the process of history to where these initial grants are carved up and left to sons/daughters or sold to other people. Again, if you have an interest… do a bit of research and give me a trail to follow.

Note that most of these folks in this “Indian Trader” map I am exploring are identified by the “Morattock River” or possibly the Yourha/Urah etc. swamp area. Quankey Creek is also a lead as is Conocannara Swamp. I do not want to explore past these boundaries.

As a somewhat different side note, I also research the history. I get all excited and in a tizzy when I find some obscure little morsel of history with a down and dirty account of an Indian Trader. I particularly like the JSTR database (just Google it… you can wrangle free access up to a point) another great source is the NC Archives. Use this link:

https://docsouth.unc.edu/csr/index.html/document/csr04-0151#p4-440


… another sidetrack… just to make a point about Indian Traders… these guys would travel across state lines in a heartbeat… it amazes me sometimes.  When I first started researching I had the idea in mind that these early settlers might live and die without venturing perhaps 50 miles from where they were born… and it sometimes was the case, say, for simple farmers.  Such was not the case for the Traders… they were a breed of men a bit out of the ordinary.  And when they were old, worn out and writing their wills they might refer to themselves as “planters”… it was not so in their youth.

Indian Traders “got around” so to speak… as an example…Mr. McGinty was of North Carolina…

“The Deposition of Alexander McGinty, of Cumberland County, Indian Trader

“That this Deponent, with six other Traders, vizt., David Hendricks, Jacob Evans, William Powel, Thomas Hyde, and James Lowery, all of the Province of Pennsylvania, and Jabez Evans, of the Province of Virginia, being on their return of trading with the Cuttawas, a nation who live in the Territories of Carolina, where, on the twenty-sixth day of January, last, attacked and taken prisoners by a company of Coghnawagos, or French Praying Indians, from the River Saint Lawrence, being in number seventy (with whom was one white man, called Philip, a Low Dutchman) at a place about twenty-five miles from the Blue Lick Town, and on the south bank of Cantucky River, which empties itself into Allegheny River about two hundred miles below the Lower Shawnee Town; this Deponent and the said six Traders having then with them in goods, skins, and furs, to the value of seven hundred pounds, Pennsylvania money, which were all taken away from them by the said French Indians. That from thence the said Deponent, with the said David Hendricks, Jacob Evans, William Powell, Thomas Hyde, and Jabez Evans (the said James Lowry having made his escape soon after they were taken as aforesaid, and returned into Pennsylvania, as this Deponent hath since heard), were carried by the said Indians to a French Fort on the Miamis or Twightwee River, and from thence to Fort De Troit, and there the said Jacob Evans and Thomas Hyde ( as they informed this Deponent at the said Fort) were sold by the said Indians to Monsieur Celeron, Commandant of that Fort. And this Deponent, with the said David Hendricks and Jabez Evans were carried forward by the Lake Erie to Niagara, and so through Lake Ontario to the City of Mont Real, and there brought before the General of Canada, who said he would have nothing to do with them, for they were the Indians’ prisoners, and at their disposal. That the said Jacob Evans, Thomas Hyde, and William Powel, were also afterwards sent to Montreal, where this Deponent saw the said Jacob Evans and Thomas Hyde in prison, but were sometime after sent away to Old France, as this Deponent was told at Montreal. That the said William Powel was sent to Canessatawba Town, twenty-six miles from Montreal, and this Deponent to a small Indian Town in the neighborhood of Montreal, where he was kept a prisoner by the said Indians who took him, but was sometimes permitted to go to Montreal. “That the Indians of the Town where he was prisoner, near Montreal, told him that there should not be a white man of the English Nation on Ohio before the next Cold, mean the winter, for the land was their Father’s, the French, and no Englishman should remain there. “That in their passage from Fort DeTroit to Niagara, in Match last, they met on Lake Erie seven battoes at one time, and fifteen at another; and afterwards, in their passage from Niagara to Montreal, they saw on Lake Ontario 160 battoes, or upwards; in all which battoes were embarked French soldiers, with arms and ammunition, some of them having twelve, some ten, and some eight men on board.”

Wow… just Wow… a group of 70 Indians grab your happy ass and cart you off to Canada as a prisoner… and you live to tell about it….

Will of Alexander McGinty

In the name of God, amen, I Alexander McGinty of the County & State of No. Carolina, being weak in body but of perfect mind & memory, thanks be given unto God calling into mind the mortality of my body & knowing that it is appointed for men once to die do make & ordain this my last will and testament, that is to say principally & first of all give & _____ _____ my soul unto the hand of Almighty God ___ it and my body ___ to the earth to be buried in a decent Christian burial at the discretion of my Executors nothing doubting but a the general resurrection I shall possess the same again by the mighty hand of God and as touching such worldly estate whereas it hath pleased God to gie me in this life, I give devise & dispose of the same in the following manner & form

Item – I will & bequeath unto my beloved wife the plantation whereon I now live for her life with all my stock of horses, mares, bulls, cows & calves, sheep & hogs, all the household furniture & farming utensils with all the debts ___ ___ ___ I allow her to collect for her own use with what money we have ___ to be at her own disposal – except one hundred dollars to each of my grandchildren viz. Mary Ann McGinty at the discretion of my ___ put to interest … McGinty … Survey of two hundred & seventy two acres until Henry McDowell my grandson is of age.

Item – I will & bequeath to my grandson Abner McGinty two hundred acres of land in three different surveys joining lines with David & John Parks on the waters of Ready Creek & McAlpins Creek, likewise one survey of 86 acres joining James Maxwell & William Johnston on the head waters of McKee …

Item – I will & bequeath to my grandson Henry McDowell McGinty the plantation whereon I now live together with the survey of one hundred & seventy two acre with the survey of seventy acres joining it and joining lines with William Johnston.

Item – I will & bequeath to my grandson Alexander Crawford (sic) my silver watch & he is to pay each of the following legatees one dollar to my grandson James Crawford one dollar, to my granddaughter Mary Ann Johnston one dollar, to my granddaughter Martha Miller one dollar, to my grandson James Finney one dollar.

Item – If any of my four grandchildren viz. Abner McGinty, Henry McDowell McGinty, Sophia McGinty of Mary Ann McGinty dies under age his or her shares to be equally divided among the rest. Further I do constitute & appoint my wife Mary Ann McGinty, James Montgomery, John Gingles to be the true & lawful executors of this my last will & testament, abrogating & disannulling & making void & of none effect every other will & wills of testament or Testaments by me or in my name made done or executed possessing this oath, ratifying allowing & confirming this & this only as my last will & testament, Witness my hand & seal this 2nd day of April 1802.

Signed, published, pronounced and ___ by the said Alexander McGinty as his last will and testament in the presence of each other have hereto subscribed our names.

Alexander McGinty (seal)

Guy Maxwell

Hannah McGinty

(reading his will alone, you wouldn’t have the foggiest idea of his “alter ego”…)

http://www.jcsisle.com/wills.html


Back to my “factual” research… there is an early William Anderson ca. 1732 or so who shows up in Edgecombe Precinct. This was that murky era when it (the brand new county of Edgecombe) was transitioning from Bertie and/or “Bath” in my personal opinion. (Traci and I usually go round n’ round on this point) she likes to keep me on track and I like to push her boundaries.

This is verbatim from one of my earlier Posts. My point here is to recognize and at the same time get rid of this Interloper to my theory.

I visited an obscure site looking for an obscure person and up pops this petition of “maybe” 1732 showing 2 Andersons for that obscure time (1730s).  I’ve yet to find another hard reference for a “Henry” Anderson in Edgecombe Precinct in the 1730s (the “County” came a decade later) .

My point is that in order for these two “petitioners” to be “of age” (21), then they would be born at least 1712… this makes them very early “Edgecombe” Andersons.

Note: The following petition is undated, but appears in the volume containing records from 1664 to 1734; and follows an entry dated November 11, 1732. A similar petition was filed by the citizens of Bertie Precinct.

Read the Petition of the Inhabitants of Edgecombe precinct which is in these words Videlicet

Petition of the Gentlemen of Edgecombe Precinct to alter the Seat of Government
To George Burrington Esqr. His Majestys Capt. General Governour and Commander in chief of the Province of North Carolina

We the Gentlemen and Freeholders of Edgecombe precinct think ourselves Extremely happy under your wise and prudent Administration the good order and peace we see now Established throughout this Province is a most convincing proof of your Excellencys Care and wisdom and deserves the thanks and gratefull Acknowledgment of all men in North Carolina

Good Lord it just chaps my ass to see the olde boys grovel on bended knee before those arrogant sniveling castletrash bafoons…. sorry… got all rebelliously patriotic and stuff… my apologies to you Democrats…

We are sencible Edenton is for many Reasons a very Inconvenient place for the Seat of Government and almost as much may be said against the settling it on Cape Fear River

Therefore we humbly desire and hope your Excellency will take proper measures for fixing the Seat of Government near the Center of the Province which we suppose is between Tar and Neuse River which will give a general Satisfaction to almost all the whole Province and greatly promote the speedy peopling the unsettled part of this Country increase the King’s Quitt Rents and Encourage Trade and Industry and be an Everlasting Demonstration of Goverour Burringtons Kindness to the Inhabitants of North Carolina

That you Sir may in health and happiness long Govern this Province are the Prayers of

Your Excellency most humble and most Obliged Servants

Tranker, James Simons, Will Williams, Pines Welding, Laurence Simcock, Edwd Robinson, Thos. Hodges, John Tapley, John Cotton, Willm. First, John Carpenter, Thos. Tapley, Willm. Reeves, John Robinson, Wm. Hamilton, Alexr. Beane, John Cor, Morris Orane, John Glover, Wm. Cullender, Joseph Richardson, Lewis Elliot, Silvester Estridge, John Gill, Jno. Doron, William Rusil, Chas. Merrit, Samll Murry, John Lew, Henry Anderson, Christ. Beane, James Moor, Benja. Joyner, Geo. Woodliff, Ricd Washington, John Mulkey, Philip Mulkey, Geo. Pace, Rodk. Pearce, Abrah. Ante, Thos. Perry, Danl. Kindal, Henry Jenning, Phil. Murray, Will. Williams Junior, William Paule, Wm. Bauldwin, Jno. Bobbett, William Dennis, Watkin Davis, Robt. Surloe, John Taylor, Thos. Goodson,Henry Guston, James Millikin, Jams. Thomspson, Thos. Jones, John Pratt, Jas. Dyal, Mathew Ruphen, Phillip Jackson, Lewis Davit, Robt. Humphreys, Robt. Humphreys Jr., Wm. Anderson, Thoms. Arrento, Richd Hainsworth Jr., Seth Vatcher, Thomas Hart, Jas. Brogden, John Smith, Robt. Ellis, Thoms. Riggin, Richd. Hill, Rob. Long Junior, Robt Warring, Jonathn. Wright, Will. Norwood, Berry Melton, Chas. McCulloe, Thos. Hicks, John Green, William Fish, Wm. Sturbidge, John Turner Senior, John Tayler, Edward Simons, Small Swaringham, Geo. Bollingson, Wm. Rushen, John Brooke, Wm. Hodges, Robt. Hodges, Danl Crawley,James Smith, John Rogers, Roger Case, Bat. Cheavers, John Branch, Thos. Bradford, W. Bulliloes, Thomas Blackman, Jno. Baldwin, Richd Merrick, Joseph Mechamp, Jas. Moore Junior, Alexr. Wright, William Moore, Walter Turburwell, Isheim Randolph, Nathan Joyner, Joseph Joyner, Gilbert Murray, Peter Ivey, Edward George, James Murray.

(A footnote states that another copy of the petition includes the names of William Whitehead, George Norris and Taphel Dyal.)

Source: Records of the Executive Council, 1664-1734, Vol. 7, (1984) pp. 298 – 299.

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There are actually 2 petitions in the records… one for Edgecombe “Precinct” shown above and the second from Bertie Precinct.  The Edgecombe lists Henry Anderson and William Anderson.  The Bertie list contains another William Anderson. So there are 2 Williams at this time of 1732(?).

I suspect the William Anderson of Bertie may be a son of Robert Anderson who lived around Cashy River. But that is a guess... (although I have shown that he DID have a son William)

Two William Andersons that I can identify are the William who dies by 1762 (from Halifax) and my ancestor William who dies in 1789 (Edgecombe) but he was a youngster in 1732 I think.  So I have an obvious interest in the two men of that 1732? Edgecombe petition.

My “gut” is telling me the above William Anderson of the petition is the guy who died in 1762.  But I am open to any comments..


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June 11, 2021 at 6:31 am

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the Proof thing…

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June 10, 2021 at 6:25 pm

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(Updated) Brown or Boon?

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With a rhetorical question an answer is not really expected… I suppose I am seeking opinions. Note in these two patents the peculiar spelling. “Wm. Bown”

I suppose what I am alleging is that it seems possible to me that when/if this record was transcribed or re-copied as I assume then the scribe doing the re-copy was just as confused as we are a couple hundred years later about this name Brown or Boon.

The name BROWN is not easy to misspell, I don’t think. In this case the error is made TWICE.

In my research it is apparent that two men – one named William Brown and the other named William Boon each had patented land “extremely” near each other.

I don’t think that these two entries in the Deed Books are the originals… it has been shown over the years that as the original deed books were dissolving into dust, book worms and such… the books were painstakingly re-copied as the only means available at the time to preserve the records.

I’m curious what you folks might hazard a guess as to which name seems more reasonable… Brown or Boun?

The NC records come down with Brown… but I am suspicious…

NARRATIVE: Wm. Brown was issued Unknown acres of land on 08 Mar 1711 in Chowan County, located “On Moratock river”. This was recorded in Land Patent Book 1 page 177 as Chowan County Grant # .


Alerts:Archivist Notes at bottom
Corrections at bottom


From PATENT BOOK
*Issued: 08 Mar 1711
County: Chowan
Book: 1 pg: 177


From WARRANT / PLAT
Entered: (no date)


Other Identifiers:
File no.: 93
MARS: 12.14.46.93


Subjects (in archivist order):
Brown, William
Roanoke River

An update… to add a bit more fuel to this fire…

I found another deed .. well 2 deeds actually, but written in another hand.

The particular peculiarity which still leaves me puzzled is the DATE mentioned in these 2 deeds.

5 March 1712 … same date as the above deed referenced as File 92

So NOW what do you detectives think? Is this a Brown patent or a Boon patent? I consider

it a Big Deal when I question the accuracy of actual historical records.

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June 1, 2021 at 3:36 am

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When I’m not doing genealogy and otherwise pontificating…`

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I’m jumping out of perfectly good aircraft… as they say…

This was in 2018 with my son, son in law and grandson

I’m the old phart

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May 26, 2021 at 8:51 am

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A bit of reality of colonial North Carolina…

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Below is a deed of William Boon… 1720ish. Forget the deed… taking off my genealogy cap and putting on my Historian cap, lets look at the “Court” at about this time. Note the asterisk and where the court was held. Queen Ann’s “? what is that word”. There just happens to be a record of some goings on at about this time in history.

Minutes of the General Court of North CarolinaNorth Carolina. General CourtJuly 27, 1721Volume 02, Pages 441-446


North Carolina—ss.
Att a Genll Court of Oyer & Terminer Continud & held for the sd Province at the Genll Court House at Queen Ann’s Creek in Chowan Precinct the 27th July 1721——————– page 442 ——————–

Prest the Honble ffredk Jones Esqr Chief Justice John Blount & Robt West Esqrs Justices.

The Grand Jury are Impannelld & Sworn Viz.Josph Jessop fforeman

Josph Wicker, Henry Bonner, Jams Williamson, Jno Pettiver, Wm Jones, Samll Spruill, Wm Stewart Samll Pagett, Jos Spruill, Jams Ming, Jno Swain Johna Evans, Thos Blitchenden, Coll. Maur. Moore, Aaron Oliver, Thos Harding, Thos Roundtree, Nics Hunter, Wm Lattimer, Patrk Maule

The Grand Jury Exhibit the following Bill of Indictment to the Court.

To the Honble ffredk Jones Esqr Chief Justice & to the rest of the Justices for holding the Genll Court for this Province

The Jurors for our Sovereign Lord the King Present that Christopher Butler of Chowan Precinct in the County of Albemarle in the Province of North Carolina Marrinr not having the fear of God before his Eyes but being moved and seduced by the Instigation of the Devil on or about the Seventeenth day of March in the year of our Lord 1720/1 at Chowan afsd by force & Armes &c. in and upon Mary Haughton the wife of Wm Haughton of Chowan afsd in the Peace of God & our Lord the King then & there being an assault did make & the afsd Xphr Butler the afsd Mary Haughton by force & Armes and Contrary to the will of the sd Mary Haughton did then & there Violently & ffelloniously Ravish And the said Mary Haughton then & there Violently and ffelloniously agst her will Carnally know, Contrary to the Peace of our Sovereign Lord the King his Crown & Dignity & Statutes in that case made & Provided &c.DANll RICHARDSON P Duo Rege.

Which Bill is returned Ignoramus.JAS. JESSOP fforeman.

And the sd Christophr Butler being calld appeard & acknowledged himself himself to be indebted to our Sovereign Lord the King in the sum of ffifty Pounds and Jams Ward & Timo Truelove in the sum of twenty five pounds each to be Levyed upon their severall lands & Tenemts Goods & Chattells with condition that the sd Xphr Buttler well behave himself to all his Majes Leige people more especially to the sd Wm & Mary Haughton six months from hence coming then this Recog. to be void else to be & remain in full force.

Danll Richardson Esqr Attorney Genll came to Prosecute an Indictmt found by the Grand Jury agst Paul Palmer for a Misdemeanour. To which Indictmt the sd Paul Pleaded Not Guilty——————– page 443 ——————–

It is Comanded the Marshall that he cause to come twelve &c. by whom &c. who neither &c. And there came Thos Spires, Rd Skinner, Thos Hoskins, Wm Sadler, Edwd Howcott, Matt Gum̄s, Wm Wattson, Jno Harlow, Geo. Turnedge Wm Bonner, Wm Jones, John Johnson who being sworn say. We of the Jury do find the Deft Guilty of a Misdemeaner. Upon which Verdict the Deft moves in Arrest of Judgmt which is Granted & Ordered that he file his Errors ffifteen days before the next

The Grand Jury Presents Mr Thos Harvey, Mr Wm Little, Mr Wm Charleton Junr, Mr Roger Hazard, Christian Heidleburg, Jse Hill Wm ffallaugh by the Information of John Evans one of the Jurors for swearing one oath a Piece.

Grace Morgan for having two husbands & Living in Adultery

Chas Hopton for ffornication

Mary Haughton for Adultery comitted per Curr

Christopher Butler for ffornication.

The Grand Jury being askd if they had any further presentmts to offer to the Court answerd No.

Orderd that they be Dischargd

Jno Holmes being bound by an order of the Precinct Court of Chowan to appear &c. at this Court. Appeard & nothing being found agst him by the Grand Jury Orderd that he be dischargd.

Josa Spivey being bound by an Ordr of the Precinct Court of Chowan to appear &c at this Court appeared & nothing being found agst him by the Grand Jury. Ordered that he be Discharged.

Soloman Jordian being bound by Recog. to appear at this Court. appeared & Nothing being found agst him by the Grand Jury Ordered that he be Discharged

Charles Wilks being called to answer to an Indictmt found agtt him by the Grand Jury failed to appear last Court. And now also failing to appear. Ordered that Execution do issue agst him for his appearance here the 3d day of the next Genll Court.

Mary Brinn being called to answer to an Indictmt found against her by the Grand Jury failed to appear last Court. And now also failing to appear Orderd that Execution do issue against her for her appearance here the 3d day of the next Genll Court

Thoms Spivey, Abrm Spivey, Benjn Spivey and Jacob Spivey being bound by Recog. to appear at this Court to answer an Indictmt found agst them by the Grand Jury for Hoggstealing, Appeared, And the Attorney Genll having absconded from Court & refusing to Prosecute on behalf of our Sovereign Lord the King. Ordered that they be contd upon the——————– page 444 ——————–same Recog. to appear here the 3d day of the next Genll Court to answer the sd Indictmt

John Hassell being bound by Recog. to appear to appear at this Court having moved in arrest of judgmt on a Verdict of the Jury found agst him last Court and filed his Reasons: Appeared and the Attorney Genll having absconded from the Court & refusing to Prosecute on the behalf of our Sovereign Lord the King Orderd that he be contd upon the same Recog. to appear here the 3d day of the next Genll Court.

Wm Alexander being called to answer an Indictment found agst him by the Grand Jury appeared and the Attorney Genll refusing to Prosecute on behalf of our Sovereigne Lord the King. Upon the Courts Order the sd Wm Alexander acknowledged himself to be indebted to our said Sovereign Lord the King in the sum of Two hundred pounds to be Levyed upon his Land & Tenemts goods and Chattells with condition that the sd Wm Alexander personally appear here the 3d day of the next Genll Court & not depart the Court untill Discharged therefrom and that in the mean time he be of his good behaviour then the above Recog to be Void else to remain in full force.

Danll McDaniel & Robt Attkins being calld to answer to their Recog, but they having they having absconded & withdrawn themselves & Effects out of this Governmt Ordd that the same be Dismist

I’ve studied a bit on one Daniel McDaniel who I think is this guy… use my search button)

Paul Palmer & Joanna his wife being calld to answer to an Indictmt found agst them by the Grand Jury Appd by their Attorney & Pleaded Not Guilty but the Attorney Genll having absconded the Court & refusing to Prosecute on behalf of our Sovereign Lord the King. Orderd that the Tryall therof be referrd till the next Court and that the sd Paul Palmer Enter into Recog for his appearance here the 3d day of the next Genll Court.

Whereupon the sd Paul Palmer acknowledged himself to be indebted to our Sovereign Lord the King in the sum of one hundred Pound & Joseph Jessop & John Pettiver in the sum of fifty Pounds each to be Levyed upon their severall Lands and Tenemts goods and Chattells with Condition that ye sd Paul Palmer & Joanna his wife appear here the 3d day of the next Genll Court and not Depart the Court untill Discharged therefrom then this Recog. to be Void Else to be & Remain in full force.

Joanna Palmer being calld to answer to an Indictmt found agst her by the Grand Jury Appeard by her Attorney & Pleaded Not Guilty, but the Attorney Genll having absented from Court and refusing to prosecute on behalf of our Sovereign Lord the King, Orderd that the Tryall thereof be referrd till the next Court & she enter into Recognizance for her appearance here the 3d day of the next Genll Court——————– page 445 ——————–

Whereupon Joseph Jessop & Jno Pettiver acknowledged themselves to be indebted to our Sovereign Lord the King in the sum of one hundred Pounds each to be Levyed upon their severall Lands & Tenemts, goods & Chattells with Condition. That the sd Joanna Palmer appear here the 3d day of the next Genll Court & not Depart the Court untill Discharged therefrom then the above Recog to be void else to be & Remain in full force

Charles Hopton being bound by Recog: to Appear at this Court & nothing being alleadged against him. Ordered that he be Discharged

Edward Howcott being bound by Recog: to appear at ys Court to answer to an Indictmt found agst him by the Grand Jury appeard. but the Attorney Genll Having absented himself from Court & refusing to Prosecute on behalf of our Sovereign Lord the King, Orderd that he be continued upon the same Recog: to the 3d day of the next Genll Court with which the said Howcott is Content.

North Carolina—ss.

To the Honble ffredk Jones Esqr Ch. Just & to the rest of the Justices for holding the Genll Court of this Province.

The Jurors for our Sovereign Lord the King on their oaths Present Wm Norris of Pasquotank Precinct within this Province that on the 24th day of July Anno. Dom 1717 having not the fear of God before his Eyes, by the Instigation of the Devil & evil disposed Inclinations he the sd Wm Norris at Pasquotank afsd did forge a Deed from Alice & John Billett to Samll Willson with an intent & Designe to alter the freehold of the Land therein granted might be defeated contrary to the Peace of our Sovereign Lord the King that now is his Royall Crown & Dignity & against a Statute in that Case made & Provided &c.DANll RICHARDSON P Duo Rege

Which Indictmt being Read and the sd Wm Norris calld appeard but the Attorney Genll having absented from the Court & refusing to Prosecute on behalf of our Sovereign Lord the King. Orderd that the sd Wm Norris do enter into Recog: for his appearance here the 3d day of the next Court to answer the said Indictmt

Whereupon the sd Wm Norris acknowledged himself to be indebted to our Sovereign Lord the King in the sum of three hundred Pounds & Thos Comander in the sum of two hundred pounds to be Levyed upon their Lands & Tenemts Goods & Chattells with Condition that the sd Wm Norris do personally appear here the 3d day of the next Genll Court &——————– page 446 ——————–not Depart the Court untill discharged therefrom And that in the mean time he be of his good behaviour then this Recog. to be void Else to be & Remain in full force

George Griffin being bound by Recog. to appear at this Court to answer for a contempt in not obeying a Precept from a Magistrate appeard and acknowledged himself to be indebted to our Sovereign Lord the King in the sum of twenty pound & George Turnedge in the sum of ten Pounds to be Levyed upon their severall Lands & Tenemts Goods & Chattells with Condition that the sd Geo. Griffin do personally appear here the third day of the next Genll Court & answer for the sd Contempt & not Depart the Court untill discharged thereform & that in the mean time he be of his good behaviour then this Recog to be Void else to be & remain in full force.

Adjourned till the next Court in CourseFFRED. JONES Ch. Just

Some of the boys must have been overwhelmed with an air of morality that day… but I tend to think they probably washed down the day’s witch hunt with a few ales or perhaps some Madeira wine later that night.

A few of “the boys” hailed from Bath County. Note that they liked to deal in Real Estate when they were not holding Court.

This is the entry list for Bath County from one of my favorite websites.

NCLandgrants.com

Searching Bath County (158 total subjects)

158 subjects found. All are shown in the pages below regardless of the first letter

      


Akins, Thomas1 grant; 1000 acres, 1728
Alderson, Simon1 grant; 200 acres, 1719
Allen, Eleazer3 grants; 1920 acres, 1725
Alligator Bay1 grant; 485 acres, 1728
Alligator Creek1 grant; 485 acres, 1728
Ashe, John Baptista, 1748-18024 grants; 3840 acres, 1730
Atkins, Robert1 grant; 640 acres, 1729
Barnards Creek1 grant; 1500 acres, 1730
Barrow, William1 grant; 460 acres, 1714
Bear Creek2 grants; 540 acres, 1720-1726
Beaufort Inlet2 grants; 16461 acres, 1713-1720
Bell, Cornelius1 grant; 360 acres, 1720
Bell, John1 grant; 640 acres, 1728
Bill, John1 grant; 720 acres, 1728
Blounts Creek1 grant; 770 acres, 1719
Bogue Banks1 grant; 9461 acres, 1720
Bogue Sound1 grant; 20 acres, 1723
Booth, William1 grant; 380 acres, 1716
Boyd, John2 grants; 990 acres, 1727
Brice, William1 grant; 285 acres, 1708
Brier, William1 grant; 0 acres
Bunington, George1 grant; 0 acres
Burnington, George6 grants; 15000 acres, 1730
Cape Fear River40 grants; 36724 acres, 1725-1730
Carone, James1 grant; 1280 acres, 1716
Carone, John1 grant; 1280 acres, 1716
Carteret Precinct1 grant; 640 acres, 1728
Cheese Cake Creek1 grant; 500 acres, 1728
Clayton, Zebulon1 grant; 500 acres, 1730
Clubfoot Creek1 grant; 380 acres, 1716
Conner, Lewis3 grants; 20860 acres, 1730-1794
Contentnea Creek1 grant; 640 acres, 1730
Copper River2 grants; 2000 acres, 1728
Cordin, William1 grant; 135 acres, 1729
Core Sound4 grants; 930 acres, 1713-1723
Crocks, Seth1 grant; 640 acres
Davis, John3 grants; 1280 acres, 1728
Drum Inlet1 grant; 7000 acres, 1713
Duck Island1 grant; 20 acres, 1723
Dudley, Christopher1 grant; 510 acres, 1729
Everard, Richard1 grant; 420 acres, 1726
Forster, Robert1 grant; 2425 acres, 1728
Gale, Christopher4 grants; 10324 acres, 1715-1720
Gardner, John1 grant; 400 acres, 1727
Gary, John1 grant; 640 acres, 1705
Glover, Charlesworth4 grants; 550 acres, 1723
Godfrey, John2 grants; 375 acres
Goose Creek2 grants; 1150 acres, 1728
Green, Anthony1 grant; 540 acres, 1729
Hamilton, Archibald1 grant; 1000 acres, 1728
Harris, John1 grant; 640 acres, 1730
Harrison, Charles3 grants; 1540 acres, 1726-1728
Harrisons Creek1 grant; 500 acres, 1728
Haw Fields1 grant; 10000 acres, 1728
Haw River5 grants; 29225 acres, 1728
Hyrne, Edward1 grant; 3000 acres, 1728
Indian Wells4 grants; 2820 acres, 1727-1730
Jackson, Thomas1 grant; 800 acres, 1723
Jacobs, Isaac1 grant; 230 acres, 1708
Jasper, Jonathan1 grant; 770 acres, 1730
Jasper, Richard1 grant; 305 acres, 1717
John, Lewis1 grant; 1000 acres, 1730
Johnson, William1 grant; 240 acres, 1720
Jones Neck2 grants; 2630 acres, 1707
Jones, Fred7 grants; 8975 acres, 1707-1715
Jones, Frederick5 grants; 8035 acres, 1707
Jones, Thomas1 grant; 2540 acres, 1729
Jones, William Harding1 grant; 474 acres, 1731
Jowel, Richard2 grants; 375 acres
Jowell, Richard1 grant; 0 acres
Keith, James1 grant; 90 acres, 1720
Kingman, Robert1 grant; 510 acres, 1707
Lane, Walter1 grant; 0 acres
Law, Benjamin1 grant; 0 acres
Linfield, Francis1 grant; 180 acres, 1726
Little, William1 grant; 4200 acres, 1728
Lockwoods Folly1 grant; 720 acres, 1728
Lockwoods Folly Inlet1 grant; 1000 acres, 1727
Lockwoods Folly River1 grant; 640 acres, 1728
Lovick, John2 grants; 5550 acres, 1727-1728
MacKey, John1 grant; 300 acres, 1716
MacKnight, John3 grants; 1280 acres, 1729
Mason Inlet1 grant; 2000 acres, 1725
Maule, Patrick5 grants; 3930 acres, 1719-1726
McDowls, Peter1 grant; 300 acres, 1730
McLeviers, Edward1 grant; 370 acres, 1720
Mitchell, William1 grant; 150 acres, 1720
Moeley, Edwards1 grant; 375 acres
Moore, Maurice13 grants; 11835 acres, 1720-1730
Moore, Nathan1 grant; 1000 acres, 1728
Moore, Nathaniel4 grants; 3140 acres, 1728-1729
Moore, Roger14 grants; 16935 acres, 1726-1728
Moseley, Edward7 grants; 21325 acres, 1728-1730
Moseley, Edwards1 grant; 640 acres, 1730
Mount Pleasant2 grants; 960 acres, 1729
Naplons, Richard1 grant; 500 acres, 1729
Neuse River12 grants; 26110 acres, 1707-1794
New Currituck Inlet1 grant; 305 acres, 1717
New River4 grants; 830 acres, 1723-1726
New Topsail Inlet1 grant; 640 acres, 1728

Note:

Edward Moseley…. 21,325 acres (which probably explains why he drew that map in 1733)

Patrick Maule… 3,930 acres

William Little… 4,200 acres

Frederick Jones… 8,035 acres… remember him from above?

To the Honble ffredk Jones Esqr Ch. Just & to the rest of the Justices for holding the Genll Court of this Province.

The Jurors for our Sovereign Lord the King on their oaths Present Wm Norris of Pasquotank Precinct within this Province that on the 24th day of July Anno. Dom 1717 having not the fear of God before his Eyes, by the Instigation of the Devil & evil disposed Inclinations he the sd Wm Norris at Pasquotank afsd did forge a Deed from Alice & John Billett to Samll Willson with an intent & Designe to alter the freehold of the Land therein granted might be defeated contrary to the Peace of our Sovereign Lord the King that now is his Royall Crown & Dignity & against a Statute in that Case made & Provided &c.DANll RICHARDSON P Duo Rege

I could go on with some other of “the boys” shenanigans… but I think you get my drift.

And lest we forget, about 1718 or so… Blackbeard the Pirate hung around these parts. (smiling)

added… just noticed William Braswell did not escape the wrath of the Chown Court.

Minutes of the General Court of North CarolinaNorth Carolina. General CourtNovember 01, 1720 – November 03, 1720Volume 02, Pages 408-416

The Jurors for our Sovereign Lord the King on their oaths do Present That Wm Braswell of the Precinct of Chowan in the Province afsd Planter did on or about the 1st day of Aprill 1720 at Chowan afsd by force & Armes kick & otherwise abuse one Richard Washington yn & there a Constable in the Execution of his office & other Inormitys to him the sd Richard Washington did then and there do with like force and Armes agst the Peace of our Sovereign Lord the King his Crown Dignity &cBilla VeraNICs CRISP foreman

One wonders what the “other Inormitys” refer to? (smiling)

These are from the site Colonial and State Records of North Carolina

https://docsouth.unc.edu/csr/index.php/document/csr02-0205

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