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See “Pages” to right… George Anderson b.1756

I’ve scratched my head for ten years trying to locate Falks Branch… other researchers who may be interested are

Ruffin, Griffin, Johnston, Deloach and others, to name a few.

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November 25, 2010 at 2:51 pm

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Rev War pensions…

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Will Graves has some great info here…   http://southerncampaign.org/pen/    really, kudos to his herculean efforts…

But its all I can do to stop myself from emailing him to ask if his name is real or a joke….

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November 22, 2010 at 7:28 pm

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nitpicking Sapony Creek/ Pitman stuff…

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UPDATE:  Well, I’ll have to eat some more crow and correct myself.  All the references to Sapony Creek must be in Nash County.  The problem I’ve had is the duplication of names:

Andrew and Daniel Ross, John Hatcher, William Pitman & wife as well as a Joseph and Arthur Pitman were in Edgecombe AND Nash County all at about the same time.  I’ll post a map as soon as I sober up.

William Pitman must have cloned himself but aquired another wife:

1770       24 Feb. WILLIAM (X) PITMAN and wife, MARGET (X) PITMAN of Edgecombe Co. to Thomas Tucker of same, for £75 Proc. money a tract of 150 acres adjoining Green Hill’s line, it being the upper part of a deed granted by Earl Granville to James Tucker on May 10, 1762. Wit: Thomas Harbirt, Mathias Maning, Junr. DB D, p. 339.

 

 

I think many researchers have mistaken a “forgotten” Sapony Creek in Edgecombe County with the “modern” creek of the same name in Nash County.  Any Hatcher researchers out there might take note.  Note the “road orders” below and ask yourself if it would be feasible for the jurymen listed to service a road that far away.

1763       9 Jul. WILLIAM (X) PITMAN AND JUDETH (X) PITMAN of Edgecome Co. to John Hatcher, Junr. of same, for 33/6/8 Proc. money a tract of 160 acres on Sapony Creek adjoining Stephen Batchelor, it being the whole of a Granville grant to Daniel Ross bearing date March 17, 1761, and by said Daniel Ross given to Andrew Ross in his last will, and by said Andrew Ross given to said Judith Pitman in his last will. Wit: Artur (X) PITMAN, John Hatcher, William Defnal. DB C, p. 60.


1761       26 Sep. ELIZABETH PITMAN (mark) of Edgecombe Co. to ARTHUR PITMAN of same, planter, for £10 current money of N.C. a tract of 90 acres on the north side of Tar River adjoining sherwood Haywood, it being a Granville grant to said Elizabeth Pitman dated March 24, 1749. wit: Sherrood Haywood, Hancock Hatcher (mark). Deed Book 1, p. 89.

1762       1 Nov. William (H) Henry of Edgecombe Co. planter, to ARTHUR PITMAN of same, planter, for 26/6/8 Proc. bills of N.C. a tract of 160 acres on the south side of Sapony Creek on the Great Branch adjoining Stephen Batcheler. Wit: David Pridgen, John (X) Basey, John Fountain. DB 1, p. 493.

1762       20 Sep. ARTHUR PITMAN of Edgecombe Co., planter to JOSEPH PITMAN of same, planter, for £20 Proc. money a tract of 100 acres on the north side of Tar River adjoining ELIZ. PITMAN, John Fountain and Robert coleman. Wit: Wm. (X) Anderson, Handover (X) Hatcher, John Foundain. DB 1, p. 381. [Hancock]

1764       6 Sep. John Hatcher and Mary Hatcher of Edgecombe Co. to Stephen Batchelor of same, for £20 Virginia money a tract of 160 acres lying on both sides of Spaony Creek adjoining said Batchelor, it being that tract of land granted from Earl Granville to Daniel Ross on 7 Mar 1761. Wit: Thomas Harbirt, WM (X) PITMAN. DB C, p. 255.

http://hatcherfamilyassn.com/getperson.php?personID=I39022&tree=WmtheIm

Edgecombe county, NC, Court Minutes of the Pleas & Quarter Sessions, 1757-1784:

September 1762

Read the petition of sundry inhabitants of Swift Creek for a road. Ordered that the following persons be jury to lay out same beginning on south side of Creek near the old store house alias Col Whitehead’s store house on Whittington’s Rode from the new down the road that crosses said Creek at John Mial’s at or near John Hatcher‘s plantation; to wit: Jacob Whitehead, Simon Johnson, Robert Maner, William Anderson, John Hatcher, Robert Rose, Hardyman Pope, John Sikes, Arthur Whitehead, Ebenezer Folsome, Henry Beckworth, Mathew Drake, Francis Parker, Isaac Hilliard, John Stallions, John Hatcher, Jr., Francis Jones, William Langly.

Ordered jury to lay out road near Jno Hatcher’s plantation up the nearest and best way to the road near Whitehead’s old store house from whence by the Falls of Arthur Whitehead’s mill swamp a little below the mouth of the Tarr with the new the (?nearest/inwardest?) and best way into Jeffrie’s road about Francis Parkers – to wit: Jacob Whitehead, Simon Johnston, Robt. Mainor, William Anderson, Jno. Hatcher, (?Sr.) Robert Rose, Hardyman Pope, John Sikes, Arthur Whitehead, Ebenezer Folsome, Henry Beckworth, Mathew Drake, Nath’l Drake, Fras. Parker, Isaac Hilliard, John Stallions, Jno Hatcher, Jr., Francis Jones, William Langley, and the following hands work and clear the same, to wit: William Braswell, Sr., David Braswell, William Hunt, Ebenezer Folsome, William Danial, Isaac Hilliard, Francis Jones, Mary Williams and that Henry Beckworth be overseer of the above hands from Jeffries Road to Whitehead’s store and that the following hands work on the same road from the old store to Hatcher’s Plantation, to wit: Jacob Whitehead, William Whitehead, Jno. Jenkins, Hardyman Pope, Wm Langly, John Stallions, William Taylor, John Spikes, John Woodard, William Spikes, Thos Spikes, Geo Harral, West Pope, Simon Johnson, Elias Hilliard, John Hatcher, Jr., Robert Rose, Wm Hicks, Robert Trevathan, Jno Sikes, Robert Mainor, Jesse (?Freas/Francis?), Aaron (illegible), Wm Anderson, Joseph Philips, Sarah Ross, Thos Pre****, and John Nails and that Simon Johnson be o’seer of same.

Proof of Ross property (note Thomas Price and William Anderson as adjoining property):


On the back of the survey is written:  “Danl Ross  Edg.  March 27 1761”

Written by anderson1951

November 20, 2010 at 6:26 pm

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tracking Robert Pitman

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In 1739 he witnessed 2 deeds of his brothers, Thomas and Ambrose. By 1742 he buys his own property. The 3 brothers seemingly living close to each other.

Edgecombe Precinct, Edgecombe County, NC, 1732-1758, Hofmann

Deed Bk 1, pg. 284

COL. WILLIAM WHITEHEAD of Edge. Co. to THOMAS PITTMAN of Isle of Wight Co., Va., planter   21 Aug. 1739  20 pounds Va. currency  320 acres more or less on north side of Beech swamp, joining POPE and the swamp  Wit: WILLIAM BYNUM, ROBT. PITTMAN  Reg. (place not given) Aug. Ct. 1739  J. Edwards C. Ct.

pg. 286  COL. WILLIAM WHITEHEAD of Edge. Co. to AMBROSE PITTMAN of Edge. Co., planter  21 Aug. 1739  16 pounds Va. currency  320 acres more or less on the north side of Beech swamp. joining PHILIP RAIFORD and the swamp  Wit: WILLIAM BYNUM, ROBERT PITTMAN  Reg. (place not given)  Aug. Ct. 1739  J. Edwards C. Ct.

Deed Bk 5, pg. 102

WILLIAM KINCHEN, JR. of Edge. Co. to ROBERT PITTMAN (co. not identified)  16 Nov. 1742  30 pounds current money of Va.  200 acres on the north side of Buck swamp in the falling grounds of Rayford’s creek  a patent to PHILLIP RAYFORD 18 Feb. 1737  Wit: JOHN PITMAN, THOMAS PITMAN X his mark, ANN PITMAN X her mark  Reg. Edge. Co. Nov. Ct. 1742  R. Forster C. Ct.

Minutes of the North Carolina Governor’s Council

North Carolina. Council

March 15, 1743 – March 30, 1743

Volume 04, Pages 625-633

Read the following Petitions for Warrants Vizt

…among list… Robt Pitman 150 Bertie… granted

I’ve seen no other references to the Bertie Co. 150 acres… it may have simply escheated for lack of seating?

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I’ve posted this elsewhere but I’ll throw it in again just because I like to belabor my points…:)

From the research of Donald Gordon (a Pittman descendant):

Thomas Pitman,of Monmouthshire, England, fled England during the Cromwell rebellion and landed in Virginia in 1649. He purchased land in Surry County, Virginia and had two sons Thomas and William. This grandson, the third Thomas moved about 1707 to Isle of Wight County. His daughter Elizabeth and son Robert, with Robert’s two sons, Samuel and Joseph moved to Edgecombe County North Carolina about 1738. Deeds in Edgecombe County show Robert, Samuel, Joseph and Elizabeth holding several hundred acres in the area North and West of Tarboro. Joseph who first appears on Edgecombe records as a bailiff of the court had a son Abner (b. 1758) and grandson born 1787. By this time the Pitmans became Pittmans and all spelled their name with two tees . The Pittmans held land North of Leggett stretching into southern Halifax County. Here Joseph and his wife Mary had a son Henry Elias born 1828. In 1850 Henry married Lucy Anderson who in 1852 gave birth to Biscoe Pittman who married Martha Alice Walston. To this marriage was born, as the last of eight children, Hobson Lafayette Pittman (1899) at Epworth.

note:

Marc,
I checked the Pittman file at the Blount Bridgers house – The item you had was an exact quote from the paper by Donald Gordon who was a nephew of the artist Hobson Pittman. There is no other information about Elizabeth and Donald’s research was not documented. He came down through Abner and Joseph’s lines which he worked on. (Monika Fleming, Tarboro, NC)

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Muster Roll of Edgecombe County Militia, North Carolina, 1750’s

Captain Robert Warren’s Company

Nr, Rank, Name, Remarks

1 Captain, Warren, Robert
2 Lieutenant, Weaver, Stephen
3 Ensing, ?
4 Serjeant, Hunnbry, Hustin
5 Serjeant, Ward, David
6 Serjeant, Pitman, Robert
7 Corporal, Merritt, John
8 Corporal, Pitman, Ambrous
9 Corporal, Turbefield, Walter
10 Corporal, Bird, Peter
11 Corporal, Phillips, John
12 Drummer, Jones, James
13 Drummer, Wilkings, William
14 Soldier, Whittaker, James
15 Soldier, Midelton, Martin
16 Soldier, Smith, David
17 Soldier, Strickland, Jacob
18 Soldier, Midelton, William
19 Soldier, Pope, Thomas
20 Soldier, Edwards, John
21 Soldier, Pitman, Samuel (purported son of Robert)
22 Soldier, Merrett, Thomas
23 Soldier, Merrett, John
24 Soldier, Goodson, Thomas
25 Soldier, Bass, John
26 Soldier, Ward, John
27 Soldier, Wyat, James
28 Soldier, Reed, Moses
29 Soldier, Curby, William
30 Soldier, Spere, James
31 Soldier, Turbefield, Joseph
32 Soldier, Jarrell, David
33 Soldier, Wilkins, James
34 Soldier, Brock, Samuel
35 Soldier, Moye, Thomas
36 Soldier, Fort, Elias    (of Looking Glass Swamp, not same as Tar R. Elias)
37 Soldier, Tatum, Edward
38 Soldier, Spiva, Francis

Thomas Pitman not listed as he is, well, dead:

Will of Thomas Pitman 1754 Edgecombe

Lot Pitman, “my seven other sons”

“my brother Robert Pitman and my son Thos. Pitman and my brother Ambrose Pitman”

Joseph Pitman not listed supports my theory he was living near William Anderson, putting him in this detachment:

Captain Jacob Whitehead’s Company

10 Corporal, Coleman, Charles

14 Soldier, Pitman, Athur
17 Soldier, Coleman, Robert

30 Soldier, Coleman, Charles

36 Soldier, Anderson, William

43 Soldier, Ross, Andrew (neighbor of W. Anderson)

50 Soldier, Battle, Elisha

66 Soldier, Griffin, James

69 Soldier, Pitman, William (son-in-law of Andrew Ross)

82 Soldier, Pitman, Jospeh (son of Robert Pitman)

86 Stallings, James
87 Coleman, Aron

90 Pitman, Thomas (son of Thomas d.1754?)
91 Pitman, Nathan

To round out the Pitmans… this detachment is, I think, from the south of Tar River:

 

Captain Aqueler Suggs* Company

51 Soldier, Pitman, Benjamin

52 Soldier, Horn, William
53 Soldier, Horn, William, Jun.
54 Soldier, Horn, James

55 Soldier, Green, William
56 Soldier, Pitman, Joseph

57 Soldier, Gay, John
58 Soldier, Gay, John Jun.

62 Soldier, Horn,Michael
63 Soldier, Horn, Michael, Jun.
72 Soldier, Gay, Henry

79 Soldier, Pitman, Moses

*on the 1905 map of Edgecombe Co, where the Tar River meets

the Pitt Co line can be seen “Suggs Creek” and “Suggs Landing”

(reference these names to Pitman deeds and note the sequence of numbering the soldiers- they were neighbors)



Written by anderson1951

November 19, 2010 at 5:25 pm

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Carolus Anderson/ Thomas Pitman property

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The Carolus property is pretty exact considering the extant references of the Wm. Byrd survey of 1728. Don’t put too much stock in the other outlying patents because this map is still “in the works”.

The “Holliman” patent may be way off as I cannot find the “little swamp”… other patents have similar problems of placement.  Consider these as simply “in the area”.

sources:

NC Colonial Records (William Byrd survey)

Patents can be found in Library of Virginia online patents

These are raw patents and do no show the numerous sales and swaps between landowners.

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November 19, 2010 at 1:03 pm

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George…house burner, horse thief, Tory…liar

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I looked at this guy as possibly the nephew of George Anderson d. 1757 of Granville.  The timeframe works; however this deposition states:

“his Parents moved from off of Potomac River in the State of Virginia when he was about five years of age into North Carolina” and “my father

died when I was a Small Boy after his removal to North Carolina”.  The brother of George of Granville is William who died well after the timeframe mentioned.

But then again… he is a liar.  (see George d. 1757 of Granville under “Pages” to the right)

Pension application of George Anderson S29141

Transcribed by Will Graves

State of Tennessee, Henderson County: Circuit Court October Term 1832

On this 9th day of October 1832 personally appeared in open Court before the Honorable John

C. Hamilton one of the Circuit Judges in and for the State of Tennessee and now presiding as Judge of

the Circuit Court now sitting in and for the County of Henderson in the State aforesaid George

Anderson a resident of the State of Tennessee in the County of Henderson aged about seventy eight

years who being first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following Declaration in

order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress passed June the 7th 1832.

This Declarant states that he entered the service of the United States from the County of Person

in the State of North Carolina as a Drafted Militia private but was immediately promoted to the rank of

Orderly Sergeant in the Company commanded by Captain Morehead.  This Company marched from

Person County and joined the American Army on the South of Catawba River then under the Command

of Major General Green [sic, Nathanael Greene] which was lying at the Indian Town – this Declarant’s

company became attached to the Regiment commanded by Colonel Tennett.  This Regiment as well as

the company to which this Declarant belonged was composed altogether of Drafted nine months men.

The name of his Major is not now recollected.  The name of his Lieutenant was Cato Parker.  After

joining the Army as before stated and after being for a short time attached to the Regiment commanded

by Colonel Tennett This Declarant’s company with several others of the same Regiment were

withdrawn therefrom and attached to the Regiment commanded by Colonel Malbere [sic, Malmedy?] a

Frenchman.  This Regiment belonged to that Division of the Army which was under the command of

General Lincoln.

This Declarant now states that General Greene ordered General Lincoln with his Division to

March on the 10th day of June 1781 on Stono a distance of about 6 miles from the Main Body of the

Army and attack the British Army which was then lying there.  This order was promptly obeyed and

the Battle commenced on the same day but the enemy being too strong for us after sustaining

considerable loss in killed and wounded we were compelled to retreat back to head Quarters.  The next

evening the British abandoned Stono and the American Army marched on to Charleston at which place

after having served out his nine months tour this Declarant was discharged and which discharge he has

long since lost.  This Declarant should here state that when he first joined the Army of the Catawba

under General Greene that the Army moved from that place on to South Carolina and at the plantation

of one Galpins fell in with the Division under the command of General Lincoln from this place the

whole Army marched to within 6 miles of Stono where they Battle was fought by the Division under

General Lincoln and which was the head Orders of General Greene.

This Declarant states that his Regular officers attached to this Army were General Nathaniel

Greene, General Lincoln, Count Pulaski who fell at the Battle [of] Savannah in Georgia and Colonels

William Washington and Harry Lee.

This declarant further states in their return home his Lieutenant Cato Parker was killed in a

skirmish with the Tories just after they had crossed Yadkin River by a [illegible word, looks like

“Yawzer”] Ball.

After the expiration of this tour of service this Applicant again entered the service of the United

States in the same year (1781) in the months of July or August as a Substitute for his half Brother John

Cosh [Cash?] in the North Carolina Militia Regiment from the County of Orange commanded by

Colonel William Moore but the names of his Captain, his Lieutenant or Major are altogether forgotten

by him.  This Regiment was stationed at Hillsborough in order to protect the Legislature of North

Carolina against the incursions of the Tories who were numerous parties were hanging around the City

during the sitting of the Legislature.  This tour of service was only for 3 months which this Declarant

faithfully served out and was regularly discharged and which Discharge he has also since lost.  In this

term of Duty this Declarant was attached to no regular Army no regular Officers consequently he

cannot state the names of any.

This Declarant states that in the latter part of the same year shortly after the capture of Lord

Cornwallis at Little York in Virginia he again entered the service of the United States as a Volunteer

Militia Private of Cavalry from the County of Person as before stated in the Company commanded by

Captain White in the Regiment commanded by Colonel William Moore his Major was by the name of

Elijah Moore and Brother to the Colonel.  This Regiment was ordered to the Town of Wilmington in

order to dislodge the British from that City and who retreated from thence upon the approach of this

Regiment – this tour of service lasted for about two months and a half when this Declarant was finally

Discharged and which discharge he has likewise lost.  General Butler was the commander in chief at

Wilmington.  This Declarant states that his Parents moved from off of Potomac River in the State of

Virginia when he was about five years of age into North Carolina and that at the time he served as

stated in this Declaration he was a resident of Person County in the State of North Carolina.

This Declarant states that he has no documentary evidence nor does he know of any person

whose Testimony he can procure who can testify to his service.

He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present and

declares that his name is not on the Pension roll of the agency of any State.

S/ George Anderson, X his mark

Sworn and subscribed the day and year aforesaid in open Court.

S/ E. H. Tarrant, Clerk

Questions By the Court

1st: When and in what year were you born?

Answer.  I was born on the Potomac River in the year 1754 in the State of Virginia I was so young

when I left that state that I do not know the County of my nativity.

2nd Have you any record of you age and if so, where is it?

Answer.  I have none my father died when I was a Small Boy after his removal to North Carolina.

3rd Where were you living when called into service? Where have you lived since the Revolutionary War

and where do you now live?

Answer.  I was living in the County of Person in the State of North Carolina during my Service from

that County I moved into Smith County afterward into Sumner and lastly into Henderson County where

I now reside in Tennessee.

4th How were you called into service; were you drafted; did you volunteer, or were you a substitute and

if so for whom did you substitute?

Answer.  In the first tour I was drafted for nine months in the second Tour I was a substitute for three

months for my half Brother John Cash in the third Tour I was a volunteer.

5th State the names of some of the Regular Officers who were with the troops where you served, such

Continental and Militia Regiments as you can recollect and the general circumstances of your service.

Answer.  The Regular Officers of the Field were first General Nathaniel green General Lincoln Colonel

Malmedy of my Regiment Colonel Washington and Colonel Lee of the Cavalry and the Count Pulaski

fell at the battle of Savannah the The general circumstances of my service are set forth in full detail and

this Declaration – the Continental or Militia Or regiments I do not recollect.

S/ Edward H. Tarrant, Clerk of the Circuit Court

Lexington Henderson County Tennessee April 20, 1834

Dear Sir

I hold it to be my indisputable duty to inform you that I have recently learned and believe the

fact is true that George Anderson for whom I obtained a pension under the act of Congress passed June

7th 1832 was a Tory in the war of the Revolution.  I am authorized in this by the assertions of several

respectable Citizens who knew him in North Carolina and when Anderson first applied to me for a

Declaration Stark and Steerman said his family was of house burning memory and horse stealing

memory they were in the revolution and are since dead.  I then refused to draw his Declaration but

Colonel Samuel Dickens wrote to me on the subject stating that from his acquaintance with Anderson

he would believe him upon his oath in consequence of this I drew his Declaration and obtained for him

his pension – Yet Sir even under the high respectability of Colonel Dickens whose [illegible word] and

goodness might have been imposed upon yet I was not satisfied as to his fidelity and patriotism in the

service of his Country – but a subsequent remark made in the presence of my wife and Daughter now

the wife of Mr. Gladen given [?] of this place merchant in conversing with an old Soldier of the

revolution (William Lacy) for whom I had just obtained a Pension, he Anderson observed that it would

have been better for the people of America if they had never separated from King George because he

could obtain salt, iron and every other article cheaper than even at this Day.

You can submit this letter to the War Department for further advisement of the payment of the

Pension of George Anderson.  Every thing in this letter detailed can be substantially established..

Respectfully yr Obt. Svt.

S/ Hugh W. Wormeley

Will Graves note:

1 The claimant’s statement is very disoriented.  He appears to be relating service during the time of the battle

of Stono which occurred in 1779 when the Southern Department of the Continental Army was under the sole command of

Benjamin Lincoln. Yet he states his service was rendered in 1781 under Nathanael Greene who then commanded

Lincoln.  Benjamin Lincoln did not serve under Greene at any time during ever 1779, 1780 or 1781.

___________________

Anderson’s pension was suspended in the spring of 1835, his last payment having been paid him in September 1834.

(William Lacy, born May 25, 1755,Orange County, North Carolina, a North Carolina militia-man in the Revolution, had lived in several Carolina counties before moving to Henderson County where he applied successfully for a pension in August 1834. S21342.)

http://www.tngenweb.org/records/henderson/cemeteries/g-ander.htm

 

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November 7, 2010 at 10:04 pm

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William Pitman…Longhunter

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see this link

http://www.angelfire.com/co3/Skaggs/stories/long.html

 

 

In Wallen’s party of l76l, some were known to hunt as far away as the Cumberland river in western Tenn. Among those known to have been in this party, besides Wallen, there was his father-in-law Jack Blevins, his brother-in-law, William Blevins, Charles Cox, William Newman, William Pitman, Henry Scaggs, Uriah Stone, Michael Stoner; James Harrod and William Carr. At this time, William Pittman was in his early twenties, six feet tall and of fine appearance. There were several Pittmans and more than one named William.

Of this William Pittman, John Redd says; “In the latter part of Feb.l776, Pittman and Scaggs came to Martin’s Station in Powell Valley. They were returning from a long hunt they had taken in the “Brush” on the northwest side of Cumberland Mountain. They returned earlier than usual and their reason for doing so was that they had seen a great smoke some distance off which they knew was Indian “ring-hunting”, and besides, they had seen Indian tracks through the woods, where they were hunting; whereupon they set out for home. They spent some eight to ten days at the Station. While they were with us, they showed some silver ore they had found on top of a little hill in their hunting ground. …



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November 5, 2010 at 10:35 am

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