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Smithfield, VA…

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An interesting short video… I am particularly interested in the dock site known as “King of all Places”; so named because a goods laden vessel could ease right up to the bank and load or unload without a problem of shallow water.

Oh… nice work on the video. It wasn’t that long ago these types of shots would require a helicopter and a Steady Cam setup.

At about the 2:26 mark the image shows the “dock” and then goes to show Windsor Castle Park. I previously thought that “spot” was “the King of all Places”… but I am digging up evidence to show it may have been on the other side of the creek. …I will update what I find…

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November 25, 2023 at 2:25 pm

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…Wrights of Nansemond

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I have a few observations on these folks in Nansemond….

I have confronted these boys before and have come back from the fight bruised and mangled…

That Wm. above with 2250 acres in 1662… I have him in 2 places and cannot decide… put zero stock on where I have him placed…

The others near William Sanders, Dumpling Island and that area east of the Nansemond River I have confidence I have them placed very close (I need to fill in the surrounding neighbors to whittle it down.

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…that being said…

I agree with you that there ‘may’ …I think it highly likely, be a different William Wright in Isle of Wight…

These situations are tough where you have the same surname just across a county boundary. To be honest, I do not have my focus on this Wm. Wright in IOW other than to mix him in with my broader map… he is a piece of the puzzle right now…

…click the blue filename under the graphic for a better view…

Note carefully the John Herring mentioned in the notes… I think the creek he is near (if I can swing that little bit of research magic) was named after him… that being “Herring Creek or branch”…

Wright was on Herring Creek…

stay tuned…

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November 22, 2023 at 5:01 pm

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…for my old buddy Larry…

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I write snickering…

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November 22, 2023 at 7:06 am

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I am still a bit “overwhelmed” with raw data concerning my newest iteration of the IOW/Nansemond map. But as I see in your comment, you seem to be a frequent visitor to the same Funny Farm that I visit… that being the dusty old records of Isle of Wight.

“I have admired your maps for some time! I am working on the Wrights of Isle of Wight Co. VA. 1730 Mary Wright married 1728 William Rutter, son of 1698 Walter Rutter and 1719 Martha Bagnall, who married 2nd 1711 Thomas Allen.
Island Pond: The 1704 Quit Rent Roll for Isle of Wight shows John Rutter with 300 acres, next to Godfrey Hunt with 600 acres and William Wilkinson with 200 acres. In 1715, William Wilkinson is granted 100 acres in Isle of Wight by the Island Pond, adjoining Andrew Monrow (Monro), John Rutter, Barnaby Kerney and James Wood. In 1742 John McDowell lists transportation of John Rutter. In 1746 Thomas Godwin, Jr., is granted 100 acres by the Island Pond, by a path and between the lines of Andrew Monrow, John Rutter, Barnaby Kerney and James Webb, land that was not cultivated and improved by William Wilkinson. The Island Pond is also mentioned in 1688 in a deed by Walter Rutter to Daniel Long. In 1688 Walter Rutter and wife Martha sold 30 acres bounded by a Boiling Spring, Island Pond, and Thomas Poole, to 1698 Daniel Long. Thomas Poole left land in his will to John Hall. It is noted that this 150 acres parcel is adjoining Rutter’s own land. In 1694 Walter Rutter and wife Martha deeded a plantation on which David Price “now lives”, adjoining Green, to their daughter Martha Rutter, who married 1724 John Long, son of 1698 Daniel Long.
I hope this helps your brilliant work.”

You have a few folks listed above that I have failed to invade their privacy and ransacked thru their dirty laundry. In the meantime… here are some of my Data Sheets on some of the folks you are researching: In no particular order:

…click the blue filename under the graphic…

Just between you and me… I’m trying to nail down where the preacher’s house was… that Bracewell guy. And a certain grist Mill that is really getting on my nerves…

…and I’ll keep an eye out for any Wrights

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November 21, 2023 at 5:42 am

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an Isle of Wight / Nansemond study

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November 20, 2023 at 10:41 am

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visualizing a mile…

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I’m in the back seat of a 1957 Chevy… Mom is in the passenger seat… Dad is driving. I was born in 1951 so I figure this must be about ’58 or’59 (Dad was a used car kind of guy)… I must have been 8 or 9. I slide over with my arms on the seatback by my Dad’s right ear. Dad! how far is a mile?, I ask, peering down the two lane blacktop. He ponders the question (and how to explain it to an 8 year old). About as far as you can see, he answers. And so it came to be in my head. Needless to say, that is why old timers always say- “down the road a piece” or “down the road a bit“. Old Timers ain’t zackly stupid.

So I came up with a little visualization “tool”. I came up with ’50 acres’ just because it was the same as a patent I was researching that had no ‘measurements’ included to determine it’s actual size. So I had to guess. And I wanted to be somewhat accurate at a scale of 1 mile = 640 acres when I put it on a map… note that a football field is “about” an acre. (work with me here… the idea is to keep it simple).

So now you and I can wrap our heads around about where Henry Snaile had a grant of land in 1637… his near neighbor was Peter Hayes. Many, if not most, of these very early patents are described in these imprecise metes and bounds. My circumstance being that while I cannot be precise… I can be reasonably accurate. I want to “map” these unmappable patents to the point a reasonable person can visualize, in a fairly accurate manner, where these grants, you know, ‘actually’ were.

I keep in my mind, while dissecting these early patents, that the olde boyse “meant what they said, and said what they meant”… I merely listen to them as best I can.

Oh… here is Henry Snaile in 1637… and Moon’s Creeke… Moone was the other neighbor.

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November 20, 2023 at 7:27 am

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Peter Hull / Hall 1640ish… Isle of Wight, VA

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Some mystery folks… mystery, shadowy times… the Indian uprising in 1622 left this whole area of Virginia a bit edgy… for lack of a better word.

I’ve ventured back into researching the early history of Isle of Wight… and this area of where Basse’s Choice was located has always intrigued me…

The term Mister /Mr was supposed to note a class distinction. Not being all that particularly interested, I’m not sure if it was a bigger deal to be a Mister or a Gentleman. In any event Peter Hall is forever noted in Virginia history as “officially” a Mister.

Who was he?

I ran across him here in 1643… but that triggered a memory of him earlier…

remember to click the blue filename (as above) for a better page view…

Here in this “Reynolds” file is the first time I ran across Peter Hall or is it Hull? in 1634… no need to read the entire Reynolds Study… my point was to question who Peter Hall was?

Finally Peter Hull shows up in 1663 owning 400 acres over on modern Stallings Creek on the IOW/Surry County boundary. I’m just curious… i’ve never seen a write up on the guy.

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November 11, 2023 at 10:01 am

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the Nansemond map…

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I have been confused by the early records of Isle of Wight. I think the early folks who created the records were also a bit confused (understandably)… to the point that I think I can identify some of their mistakes. My point in this Post is that some records insinuate that the identification of “New Towne Haven River” is misidentified as Pagan Creek. I think this is where all the confusion started… and it started with some big shot shooting his mouth off with demands about what things should be named … whatever it was before be damned.

typical aristocratic BS… the Court scribes were kept busy trying to satisfy the whims of big shots and their hot air…

Here it is ironed out in 1636 in a patent that seems to have never came to be. Looks to me like Capt. Hobson (aged 25 in 1635) sailed back to England and died in a drunken bar fight for all I know.

What I have come to realize is that New Towne Haven River never was and never has been a part of the Pagan River /Creeke of Isle of Wight. New Towne Haven River is and always has been in Nansemond.

In 1721 you were either soon to be dead from the Indians or running for your life.

Does anyone have a clue what happened to John Hobson? The Indian massacre of 1622 must be considered… but it seems he survived and returned to England.

This document declares with certitude that “A tract of land” bounded from Pagan point Creeke was awarded to Capt John Hobson “Esqr’. I think the term “esquire” is the elephant in the room.

…click the blue filename for a better page view…

Other than pointing out the error… I don’t think this patent was ever acted upon…. perhaps forgotten.

With that background… I am presently researching Pagan River… some random notes…

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November 9, 2023 at 9:40 am

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