Andersons of Colonial N. Carolina

Town William

Deed Book 9   Edgecombe Co

253-(199)  William Anderson of the town of Tarborough to John Womble of same.  23 Oct 1798.  £75.  A fourth of lot 15 in the town of Tarborough, fronting St Georges Street.

Wit: John Turner, William Davidson.  Proved May Ct 1799.  Edward Hall CC

262-(205) Sally(x)Patterson & Sukey(x)Patterson, both of the town of Tarborough in Edgecome Co, to William Anderson of same.  23 Jan 1798.  35 silver dollars.  Lot 15 in the town of Tarborough.

Wit: John Turner, Josiah Ives.  Proved May Ct. 1799.  Edward Hall CC

438-(365) John Womble of Edgecombe Co to William Anderson of same.  6 Apr 1799.  150£.  140 acres which was part of the tract granted to sd Womble

“for his services as a private in the Continental line of the State of North Carolina as pr No 1981” dated 20 May 1793,  in Davidson Co Tennessee; sd Anderson to lay it off “in a four Square at either of the corners” of the sd tract.

Wit: B. Jourdan, John Turner.  Proved 29 May 1799.  Edward Hall CC

544-(474)  James Ferguson of Edgecombe Co to William Anderson of same.  15 Mar 1800.  £20.   Lot 4 in the town of Tarborough, half of the sd lot fronting on St Georges Street.

Wit: B. Jourdan, John Turner.  Proved Aug Ct 1800.  E. Hall CC

561-(489) William Anderson of Edgecombe Co to John Womble of same.  24 Nov 1800.  100£.  140 acres in Davidson Co Tennessee which was part of a tract granted to sd Womble for his services as a private In the Continental Line of North Carolina as per no. 1981 dated 20 May 1793,  which sd Anderson had purchased from the sd grantee 6 Apr 1799.

Wit: Enos Scarborough, John Turner.  Proved Nov Ct 1800.  Edward Hall CC

Edge. Co. Db 13, page 197, deed date 1 Sep 1809, recorded Feb Ct 1810,

John Womble, Edge. Co. to William Anderson, (      ), NC for $500, a

tract of land surveyed & (       ) for my by Robert (       ) in the

state of Tenn. And formerly in the County of Davidson but now

supposedly in the County of Williamson on the waters of West (Harpe

), designated 1901, containing 640 acres, signed John Womble, wit. Jo.

Jon. Sumner, proved, Robert Austin.  Abstracted 10-29-03, NCA film

C.037.40011.

Records of Estates Edgecombe Co. N.C. 1761-1825  by David B. Gammon

(12)  WILLIAM ANDERSON

Petition by John Womble (Sept 1819), stating he had been the owner of 640 acres of land in Tennessee, Granted him for his service in the Revolution.  This land was originally located in Davidson County, Tennessee but later fell in Williamson County, known as lot #1981.  In September, 1809, he sold this Land to the said William Anderson, who later deeded it back to Womble, mailing the deed to Tenn.

Womble states he never received the deed , and that Anderson has since died leaving two minor Daughters Nancy Ann Anderson and Betsy Anderson, both of Lenoir County.  Womble petitioned The said daughters for the land.

Edgecombe Co

Court Minutes

1793-1800

AUGUST, 1796: Thomas TAYLOR, son of Mary RANDOLPH, aged 14 the 4th of May next is ordered bound apprentice to William ANDERSON

to learn trade of shoemaker.  (If this is an apprentice to the Town William then it perhaps 1. shows his occupation and 2. perhaps explains the teenage male on the census)

I’ve been perplexed by this guy for years… see my Page “Edgecombe Census 1790-1810” for a bit of background and an interesting court case involving him and John Womble. (My thoughts are that Womble was a manumitted slave due to his service during the Rev War).

The  court case can be found here:     https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-26249-2939-54?cc=1911121&wc=MMT6-BRB:148301963   (copy/paste into your browser)

Well, my buddy Holmes has chimed in with an email and pretty much annihilates my theory and premises about this guy being a son of Henry Anderson d.1801.  The son (William) has died prior to 1810… so without further ado I shall do some editing:

I’m convinced this William was a son of Henry Anderson Sr. d.1801.  There is no “smoking gun” proof that jumps out in the research but there are several compelling clues:

Edgecombe County Will Abstracts  1793-1823  by David Gammon

(7)     HENRY ANDERSON   24 Nov 1801   Feb Ct 1802   O   D/137

“…being very sick…”

wife CHARITY ANDERSON – lend half of my land of my personal estate for her lifetime or widowhood.  At her death or marriage her share shall be divided between my five sons WILLIAM ANDERSON, ALLEN ANDERSON, JOHN ANDERSON, HENRY ANDERSON and FREDERICK ANDERSON.

Sixty dollars of my estate shall be kept out, to be shared by my daughters VINEY ANDERSON and POLLY ANDERSON.

Ex.     friends DRURY MAY, JOHN ANDERSON

Wit.  JOHN LITTLE, P. SUGG

Edge. Co. Db 15, page 269, deed date 10 Sep 1814, recorded Aug Ct1815, Lavina Anderson, Edge. Co to Isaac Norfleet, county aforesaid for$100, all her right in a tract on the west side of Tar River beginningat a pine James Garrett’s corner then along said Norfleet’s line toAreah Shirley’s line then along Shirley’s line to Josiah Pender’s linethen along Pender’s line to Starling Waller’s line then along Waller’sline to Josiah Freeman’s line then along Freeman’s line to JamesGarrett’s line to the beginning, containing 259 acres, which land wasdevised to the said Lavina Anderson by the death of her three brothers, William Anderson, Allen Anderson & Frederick Anderson, signed LavinaAnderson (X), wit (John L. Stacy) (proved), David Loyd. NOTE: TWO PAGES

NUMBERED 269.  Abstracted 28 Feb 07, NCA film C.037.40011, CTC

 So… that’s all well and good, you may ask, but what leads to the connection to Henry Anderson Sr. d.1801?

 

Note the above daughter of George Patterson… “Sukey Patterson”. The Henry Anderson who is the Administrator of the Patterson estate is Henry Anderson, brother of William (both sons of Henry d.1801).

Note in the above Estate document of Henry Anderson Sr. that money is paid to “Patersons Estate”.

Now I just connect the dots…

Brother Henry Anderson was connected to the Pattersons. (Administrator)
Father Henry Sr was connected to Patterson. (paid money to the Estate)

And here is the connection to William:

Deed Book 9 Edgecombe Co

253-(199) William Anderson of the town of Tarborough to John Womble of same. 23 Oct 1798. £75. A fourth of lot 15 in the town of Tarborough, fronting St Georges Street.

Wit: John Turner, William Davidson. Proved May Ct 1799. Edward Hall CC

262-(205) Sally(x)Patterson & Sukey(x)Patterson, both of the town of Tarborough in Edgecome Co, to William Anderson of same. 23 Jan 1798. 35 silver dollars. Lot 15 in the town of Tarborough.

Like I said, its not a “smoking gun” but it provides some clues for further research.

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With Traci’s comment about finding a William Anderson (with 2 daughters) in the 1810 Lenoir County census, I reconsider the Edgecombe census…

1800  (Town of Tarborough)

William Anderson    1M to 26

1M to 45

1F to 26

1F over 45

So we have an older couple, seemingly with 2 kids…  the kids being between 16 and 26 yrs.  The fact that the wife is OVER 45 and William is under makes me think that 45 is a reasonable “ballpark” age for each…. making his birth roughly 1755ish. IF it is the same man on the Lenoir census of 1810 and he dies roughly 1815 then he would be perhaps 60 yrs which is reasonable.   All this begs the question, of course, is who is the younger William on the 1810 Edgecombe census:

1810  Bullucks District

William Anderson     1M to 10

1M to 26

1F to 16

1f to 26

I have “assumed” that this is a “town” of Tarboro guy… but perhaps not… can anyone comment about the “Bullock’s District”? (did it encompass the town of Tarboro?).  The 1800 William has a son at least 16 so this 1810 guy would fit… he would be right at 26 yrs old in 1810.  But he would have to also die prior to 1819 (which is the date of the Womble vs Wm Anderson court case which states the only heirs are the 2 daughters).  He is not on the 1820 census (at least not in Edgecombe).

Any Lenoir County researchers out there?   Unfortunately I think Lenoir is a “burned” county so there may not be anything available.

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My newfound cousin Penny Fischer engaged Traci Thompson a while back to track the Pattersons in an attempt to identify the wife of George Anderson (my and Penny’s ancestor). I was baffled at the time in the possible association of Henry and William Anderson with our ancestor George… now it appears to be just a coincidence.  I still have not found a link between the William Anderson d.1789 family and the Henry Anderson d.1801. So this guy is still a mystery.

Traci’s report (used with permission):

Mary Polly Patterson for Penny Fischer

Some new items submitted by Kristen Anderson… thanks Kristen!

I am confounded with two possible theories…

1. She was the daughter of Elizabeth Anderson d. 1733 and she had an illegitimate son William Anderson.  She later marries _______ Pitman.

2. She was the daughter of Thomas Pitman d. 1730 and she had an illegitimate son William Anderson.  She remains unmarried but is commonly recognized as the “Widow Pitman”.

Theory 1 is entirely plausible and is the generally accepted opinion.  Noted NC genealogist Hugh B. Johnston was of this camp.  An awkward problem for descendants of William Anderson is that we would not be “paternal” Andersons but perhaps some descendants of a nefarious scoundrel… a.k.a., unwanted redheaded stepchildren as it were. Gasp!   But an equally plausible theory for the timid is that a fair maiden married an Anderson who promptly died after the son William was born and the completely legit widow soon remarried  _____ Pitman.

Some researchers simply ADD the name Pitman after William Anderson’s name in the will.  Uh… you can’t do that folks, its against the rules.. you know its like, “Making Stuff Up”!

Theory 2 is a hard pill for most folks to swallow.  I have to tap dance and whistle silly tunes to explain how near neighbor Elizabeth Pitman can have an illegitimate son with the last name Anderson.  It flies in the face of colonial dogma… tsk, tsk.  But if grandma Elizabeth Anderson “knew” who the father of her grandson William was, then I don’t find it difficult for her to “claim” him in her will when she left him a cow. Think about it; there are two reasons for marriage: you get married in the eyes of God, or you get married in the eyes of the Law. To some folks simply scribbling the couple’s name in a bible was “good enough” and woe to anyone arguing the point- perhaps even in court.   But then that is unsubstantiated conjecture on my part and that simply can’t stand in the court of genealogy.

Some reasons I think Elizabeth Pitman “may” have been the daughter of Thomas Pitman d.1730…

An Elizabeth is listed as his daughter in his will and apparently unmarried as of the will date of 1728… she lived within a mile or so of the Carolus Anderson plantation on Meherrin River.

In 1728, while running the survey for the VA/NC border, William Byrd actually met Carolus and wrote about the event. In Byrd’s diary is his comment that there were no ministers in the area at that time.  It could be that the father of William Anderson was another son of Elizabeth Anderson who died before a marriage was performed.  Or, again Gasp!, one of the two known sons of Elizabeth Anderson could have inconveniently fathered him.  There is a “mystery” Thomas Anderson associated with a James Anderson property deal and also a “John” Anderson associated with a Carolus property deal…  just sayin’.

A pesky undocumented account of Elizabeth Pitman moving to Edgecombe Precinct in 1738 was written by Donald Gordon (a Pitman descendant).  I have found his account to be accurate but unproven. The closest thing I have found for proof is an Estate Sale account of an Elizabeth Pitman purchasing a trinket in 1744.  Unfortunately she cannot be refuted as a wife of one of the Pitman brothers in the area at the time.  Thomas Pitman’s wife was not an Elizabeth but Robert and John Pitman’s wives are so far undisclosed.

Regardless of the validity of either theory the fact is known that Elizabeth Pitman received a grant of 300 acres in 1749.

The most logical guess for the “mystery”  husband of the “widow” Elizabeth Pitman who acquired a grant in 1749 (Edgecombe) is James Pitman.  The trail of records for James ends in Sept, 1746 and he disappears.  His last appearance in Edgecombe is as a witness to a deed in Sept 1746.  Her survey for her patent is dated May 1748.  Assuming he fell off a horse and died in Sept 1746, what do you think of the odds that she could get an entry and a survey in her hands by May 1748?

A comment by Traci Thompson:     I’ve checked on what the land grant gurus, Margaret Hofmann and George Stevenson, have to say about the process:  

“To make an entry in Lord Granville’s office, it was necessary to make formal written application describing the vacant land for which a grant of deed was wanted…A warrant repeating the description given in the entry was then issued…the warrant was directed to the surveyor and required him to go to the land, survey it, and draw a plat of the survey.  The plat of survey was to be drawn in three copies and returned to the agent at the land office within six months of the date of the warrant. When the agent received the plat of survey, he had six months in which to cause a grant of deed to be drawn up in three copies…The deed was then put aside until all three copies could be signed and witnessed, the first copy was given to the grantee, the second copy was to be sent to Lord Granville in London, and the third copy (with its unattached plat of survey) was to be kept on file in the land office.”  (From “Introduction to the Series” by George Stevenson, introduction to Margaret M. Hofman’s The Granville District of North Carolina, 1748-1763, Abstracts of Land Grants Volume One [Weldon, NC: Hofmann, 1986].) 

I would think the timeline is plausible.  If the surveyor had to return the plat within six months, and Elizabeth’s plat is dated May 1748, then the surveyor would have done his work sometime between December 1747 and May 1748, and Elizabeth would probably have made application shortly before December. James could have died anytime from September 1746 to fall 1747.  Not that it much matters, but keep in mind that the copy of Elizabeth’s grant that we have access to is not her copy, but rather the one that was filed in the land office.  [Traci] 

Of course the riddle could perhaps be solved if the befuddling date could be resolved on this survey… I originally thought it was 1740 but almost everyone disagrees.  I now assume it to be 1748 after I’ve seen similar scrawlings of “8s” in other colonial writings.  But I can’t discount the fact that it may be a “6”… and in that case it would remove James Pitman from being her husband would it not?  Since he was still present in Sept 1746, how could Elizabeth get a survey in HER name and not his in 1746?

And so I sit straddled on a brick wall… I am 50/50 on the theories and can go either way any further proof may lead.  But I am convinced almost to the point of declaring that I have “proven” that the Joseph Pitman who acquired her property in 1761 or so was the son of the only Robert Pitman in the area which is revealed in a court document stating as much.  Logic dictates that she was not Robert’s widow.  The questions remain:  was she his sister?  or was she the widow of James?

Of course my initial supposition that William Anderson is the son of Elizabeth Pitman sits on a flimsy foundation although I find it compelling:

*The timeframe is reasonable for his birth.

*He acquired his first known property adjacent to her.

*He named a son “Carlos” which is strikingly coincidental to her possible relationship to Carolus Anderson (who could be her brother or brother-in-law and William’s uncle).

My hunch all along for years, and still is that Elizabeth Pitman was the daughter of Thomas Pitman and not the daughter of Elizabeth Anderson.  So the devil is in the details as I flesh out these folks…

The guy shows up 1716… sells out in 1721/22 and moves to “Bath”…  I have a couple “Pages” on him.  My theory is that he may have been an Indian Trader.  He disappears from the records and another James Anderson shows up in Tarboro records in 1759.  Is it the same guy?  I don’t know.

There is incontrovertible evidence (in my mind at least) that numerous folks from Occoneechee Neck, NC relocated to Saxe Gotha, SC in the 1720s to 1730s… roughly.  These folks hailed from Isle of Wight/ Nansemond originally.

Robert Long, Philip Raiford, Joseph Joyner, Richard Jackson,  others more from Prince George County Virginia….  see here    http://andersonnc.com/?s=saxe+gotha

So… I went so far as to do an interlibrary loan and got a copy of the “Journals of the Indian Trade, South Carolina 1718 to 1720 something”  and searched (read) the book looking for an ANDERSON….  nothing…. darn it.

Now I find this…

“Early history of Georgia, embracing the embassy of Sir Alexander Cuming to the country of the Cherokees, in the year 1730. A paper read in substance before the New-England Historic, Genealogical Society, February, 1872, by Samuel, G. Drake, M.A. ”         … pause for a moment to consider that Mr. Drake was born 1798… he died shortly after this dissertation…  and the guy had a VAST library of original documents… enough to make Thomas Jefferson slobber in jealousy if he had been earlier…

The principal object of this paper is to detail an early embassy to the country of the Cherokee Indians ; the chief authority for which is a MS. written by Sir Alexander Cuming, Bart., in the year 1755, the ambassador himself. This MS. came into the writer’s hands by purchase from a London bookseller. Accompanying it was a paper, stating that it once belonged to the great Shakesperian scholar, Isaac Read, Esq., from whom it passed into the keeping of George Chalmers, Esq….

…Sir Alexander Cuming was sent over as an ambassador in 1730; and from certain passages in his MS. it would seem that the affair was kept secret until his return, as no account is found of his preparation or departure upon the service, although arrangements had probably been made for it as early as 1728….

We do not find in our examination of documents any notice of the departure of Sir Alexander and his party ; but of his arrival in the Cherokee country and subsequent transactions, there is a minute account, which it is now proposed to sketch. That no record is found of the sailing of the embassy may be accounted for upon the hypothesis that it was secretly undertaken for apparent reasons then existing. News had reached England, that about the middle of March, 1729, an army of Carolinians, consisting of 100 white men and 100 Indians, had killed thirty-two Yomassee Indians and a fryar, burnt their town, and driven others into the castle at St. Augustine ; that an alliance was formed between the Creeks and Cherokees against the English, and that in this aspect of affairs the English traders did not dare to resume their business among them. This was the state of things when Sir Alexander Cuming arrived in ” Charles Town.” Nothing daunted, however, he left that place for the interior, on the 13th of March, 1730, and in ten days arrived at Keeakwee, 300 miles from Charleston. By the way he learned that the Cherokees were governed by seven Mother Towns : — These were Tannassie, Kettooah, Ustenary, Telliquo, Estootowie, Keyowee, and Noyohee. These towns had each their king, but at this time the kings of but three of the towns were alive, namely, those of Tannasee in the upper settlements ; of Kettooah in the middle ; and of Ustenary in the lower. Besides a king, or head man, each town had a head warrior.

On the 3d of April, Sir Alexander was at Telliquo with his company which consisted of Eleazar Wiggan, Ludovick Grant, Samuel Brown, William Cooper, Agnus Macpherson, Martin Kane, David Dowie, George Hunter, George Chicken, Lacklain Mackbain, Francis Baver, and Joseph Cooper, all British subjects. Here, at this time and place, Moytoy (of Telliquo) was chosen emperor over the whole Cherokee nation, and unlimited power was conferred upon him.

When Sir Alexander had arrived at a point about 100 miles from Charleston, he was informed by a Capt. Russel, that for two years the French had been endeavoring to seduce the Lower Cherokees to their interests ; that one Whitehead, a native of Paris, was the French agent. But here our documents take us a step back, in the detail of Sir Alexander’s journey in the Indian country. It was about five o’clock in the afternoon that he set out from Mr. James Kinloch’s plantation at New Gilmorton, being 23 miles from Charles Town. He was attended by Mr. George Chicken, besides Alexander Muckele, Aaron Cheesbrook, and Powel, pack-horse men ; but the pack-horse men having got drunk, and overturned the baggage, these were left behind, and Sir Alexander proceeded with only Mr. Chicken and Mr. George Hunter, and lay that night at Mr. Alexander Kinlock’s house at Wampee, 14 miles from his brother James’s. On the 14th the party reached Mr. Neilson’s, about 20 miles from their last named place. During this day’s march Sir Alexander employed much of it in searching for springs, ponds and minerals. The 15th they made 35 miles, and stopped at the house of Mr. Coxe. Here Sir Alexander met Mr. William Cooper, a bold man well skilled in the Cherokee language, who engaged to meet him on the next day, and attend him to the Cherokee mountains. March 16, they reached Capt. Russel’s before mentioned, but 10 miles from their stopping place ; having spent much time in search of curiosities. Among those discovered was a cave. They went into it. Mr. Hunter, Mr. Chicken and Mr. Coxe made marks to show that they had been there ; and Sir Alexander cut upon a stone on the left hand of it ” King George II., of Great Britain, wrote by S. A. C.” He also discovered some iron stone, which was one great end of his going in person to the mountains, not being able to depend upon the truth of any report he had heard in Carolina. Here his drunken pack-horse men came up. Two of those he discharged, and hired James Anderson in place of them. The 17th, more iron ore was discovered. On examining it Mr. Hunter found it yielded one third iron. Here Joseph Fairclough told Sir Alexander, privately, of a discovery he had made of copper, about 450 miles from the Catarba nation, and offered to conduct him to it, but Sir Alexander said his intent in going to the Cherokee mountains was more than answered by the discoveries already made, besides the getting roots for the bites of snakes : so he proceeded to Beaver Creek, and encamped under a tree some 18 miles from Capt. Russel’s.

March 18. After procuring several roots for the cure of the bites of snakes the party went on to the Congarees, where they again encamped under a tree, distance about 20 miles. Here happened something remarkable : Capt. How, a chief of the Catarba nation, by his manner towards Sir Alexander, whom Sir A. had made his friend, ordered his men to salute him with feathers, said they would dance round him all night, and would make him a present of all their skins ; but understanding that the dancing would disturb, instead of gratifying Sir Alexander, he ordered his men to desist, and withdrew and shot a turkey for his supper.

… and so the bizzare tale continues… read it here:

http://www20.us.archive.org/stream/earlyhistoryofge00drak#page/n9/mode/2up

WHAT?   Seriously, I’m not making this up….  a near lunatic castletrash aristocrat by the name of Cuming travels from England in 1730, passes thru Saxe Gotha, SC, fires some drunken hands, hires a  James Anderson, carries back 7  Cherokees to England, winds up in Debtor’s Prison in 1755 and writes a book which mentions “a James Anderson” … and the book is now lost.

So I tried tracking down the missing manuscript of the lunatic  Sir Alexander Cuming just to check the good Mr. Drake’s facts…  it appears to be eaten by the dog. But apparently Mr. Drake did have it in his possession……… and do you think he would make up something so insignificant as the James Anderson reference?

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I trust my buddy Holmes and my buddyette Traci will find some amusement in this post…

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For the seriously curious… I think Philip Raiford and James Anderson were “contemporaries”… meaning that they grew up as next door neighbors in Isle of Wight… each being born about 1695…

I’ve moved this conundrum to a “Page” on the right…..   see “Andrew Ross will”…

I found these entries in SC Probate Records, Marion Co., 1800-1825… no index and a tedious search for Pitmans…

Martha Pitman….  widow of Abner?

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Is this the Turner Bryan?

“Abstracts of Wills, Edgecombe County North Carolina, 1733-1856”, by Ruth

Smith Williams & Margaret Glenn Griffin

pg. 61 Edgecombe Co. NC dated 12 August 1797, probated Aug 1797

William Bryan: names wife Lizanar and children Turner Bryan, Bat Bryan,

Patty Bryan, Polly Bryan, Canadah Bryan, Barbary Bryan

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Charity Pitman… sister of Abner?

Sarah Pitman

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A Malachi Murphy was associated with Abner in Edgecombe… is this him?

A “James Harrell” is noted in one of the entries above…

Series: S108093

Reel: 0017

Frame: 00718

Item: 000

Date: 6/4/1829

Description: HARRELL, JAMES OF MARION DISTRICT, WILL TYPESCRIPT (MSS WILL: BOOK 1, PAGE 167; ESTATE PACKET: ROLL 371) (1 FRAME).

Names indexed: HARRELL, JAMES; HARRELL, MARY H.; HARRELL, MATTHEW W.; PITMAN, CHARITY; PITMAN, SARAH

Locations: MARION DISTRICT

Document type: WILL (TYPESCRIPT)

http://www.archivesindex.sc.gov/onlinearchives/RecordDetail.aspx?RecordId=298204
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source: http://www.martygrant.com/genealogy/familydata/aqwn908.htm
Charity Pitman

CENSUS:1850 Marion Dist., SC # 881/885
Ithamer Gaddy 85 Farmer $500 Marion
Charity 74;

NAMED-PROBATE ROLL # 321 Marion Co., SC Ithamar Gaddy 1851
Will dated 20 Sep 1850
grave stones form my wife Charity and William Gaddy my son decd.
Gr-Ch John J. Gaddy, Levi Gaddy, Israel Gaddy, Mary Gaddy, Samuel Gaddy, Joseph Gaddy, Charles Gaddy, Sarah Gaddy and Adeline Gaddy, all the children of my son William Gaddy, decd except Elizabeth Grantham wife of Elias Grantham.
Gr-children John, Ann, Civil and Catherine Grantham children of my dau Elizabeth Grantham, decd.
my sons James, Hardy, and Allen Gaddy.
Dau Nancy Hays
son Silas Gaddy
dau Mary Stackhouse
no proven date, appraisal dated 16 Jan 1851
…;

REFERENCE: A History of Marion County, South Carolina From Its Earliest Times to the Present, 1901, by W. W. Sellers, Esq., of the Marion Bar. 1902. pp. 176-178

Gaddy.—Another family in Hillsboro, is the Gaddy family. Old man Ithamer Gaddy was the first known ; his wife, Charity, was a Miss Pitman, sister of old man Hardy Pitman, who seventy-five years ago lived near by, and was a prominent citizen ; the name Pitman is not found in the county. Old man Ithamer Gaddy was a most excellent man, quiet and inoffensive, a Christian gentleman ; he raised a large family, five sons and two daughters; the sons were William, James, Hardy, Allen and Silas; the daughters were Elizabeth and Mary (Polly, as she was called). ;

Amy Pitman will and children….    http://sciway3.net/proctor/marion/wills/PitmanAmy.html

1738    (p. 48) 21 Mar 1738 . . . Account current of Estate of Elizabeth Champion, decd., by Charles Champion, administrator, lists “Col. Allen for Probation of my father’s will”, “for my mother”, Capt. Ruffin, Benjamin Champion, Benjamin Bell, John Wall, Sr., Absolan Atkinson, Mary Champion, Joseph King, John Bynum, Charles Kea, Nicholas Valentine, Samuel Lancaster, Jr., Lemuel Hargrove, Jr., Augustus Hargove, Anselm Baily, Henry Atkins, William Lancaster, Lawrence Lancaster, William Nettle, William Coker, John Coker, William George, Robert Mercer, Robert Lancaster, Jr., Thomas Lyles, WILLIAM PITMAN, James Stringfield, Benjamin Baily, BENJAMIN PITMAN, Richard Blow, Elizabeth Champion, John Waller, Jr., Thomas Riggon, William Barrow, Thomas Hardyman, Francis Riggon, William Davidson, JOSEPH PITMAN, Thomas Holiman, Jr., William Little, Thomas Bell, Samuel Person, Allen Warrin, Jr., James Bennit, Jr., John Judkins, Robert Landcaster (sic), James Washington and John Clarke (Surry Co VA).

from post of Guy Baker…  http://genforum.genealogy.com/pitman/messages/1565.html

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I think William Pitman was the father of Benjamin Pitman and Joseph Pitman….(I’m theorizing here so work with me)… this older William was likely the brother of Thomas Pitman of Meherrin River who died 1730.  Joseph “the Quaker” was the son of this Thomas of Meherrin.  Joseph was born 1724.

Benjamin and Joseph were Quakers in Surry Co, VA.  They relocated to Edgecombe. Note their death dates… Benjamin 1755, Joseph 1763.

The younger generation Joseph b.1724 was only 6 years old when his father died. I theorize that this young Joseph was raised by his uncle Benjamin or Joseph Sr….

This is how Joseph b1724 became a Quaker. I don’t think any of the other sons of Thomas d1730 were Quakers.

Joseph “the Quaker” dies intestate in 1782… but he leaves that deed of 1782 which I think in essence is a will…

Run all your questions around that scenario and see if it fits…

Finally, the Joseph Pitman who acquired the property of Elizabeth Pitman in 1761 was the son of Robert Pitman, another son of Thomas d1730.  He basically had nothing to do with the Quaker Pitmans.

And… I’ll attempt to be serious… uh huh….  that Jan 1766 Court Minutes entry has stopped every serious researcher dead in their tracks… again, I think it was just a clerical error because without it Logic prevails and this puzzle is actually really simple.

So I’m hooting, hollering, strutting, patting my own back and generally dancing around because in my mind I had finally solved the case of “the Quaker” Joseph Pitman.  The one that perplexed Hugh B. Johnston and has been a thorn in my side for years.  So whilst I’m celebrating, my buddy David throws a dead cat and trips up my dancing.  I had crafted my theory so tightly that not even light could get in…  much less the theory be wrong. … I’m referring to the Quaker Pitmans of a couple “Posts” back…

Like I say… my buddy David throws this dead cat in my way…

from the Edgecombe Court Minutes…

[117]   Jan1766

Anne PITMAN Guardian of Jethro Anne & Chloe PITMAN Orphans of Joseph PITMAN deced.

exhibited on Oath accts. of her Guardianship which were allow’d &c.

Joseph PITMAN Guardian of Thomas PITMAN Orphan of Joseph PITMAN deced. exhibited

his acct. by his Afirmation which was allow’d &c.

Thomas Pitman CANNOT BE “Orphan of Joseph Pitman deced.” Because Joseph Pitman WAS NOT DECEASED because he was both the father and guardian of Thomas Pitman .

So I’m saying this historical record is WRONG>

Take your pick:

The Court Scribe was drunk or hungover.

The Court Scribe was stupid and Lazy.

The Court Scribe was daydreaming and not paying attention.

The Court Scribe was “messing” with any future genealogists and the bastard knew it.

I can’t find that Jan. 1766 court document but I have found a pile of the Guardian documents and NOWHERE does in mention

Thomas Pitman “Orphan of Joseph Pitman”…  ALL of the Ann Pitman documents mention those children as “Orphans of Joseph Pitman” which is why I think a inattentive scribe simply wrote down an error.

Thomas Pitman was always referred to as “Heir” or “Legatee” of John Gay Junr…  never as “orphan of Joseph Pitman”.

My main interest in this character is him buying some land from James Anderson in March 1721/22…

Colonial Bertie Co., NC Deed Books 1720-1757  Mary Best Bell  Deed Book A

pg. 19. James ANDERSON of Bath County to John GRAY (Capt.) March 3, 1721/22. 400 a. NS Morattock River in Occoneeche Neck. Part of 640 a. surveyed by Coll. William MAULE for William BRASWELL then sold to Matthew CAPPS, and by CAPPS sold to James ANDERSON. Adj. William BOON, John NELLSON. Wit: Patrick MAULE, Mau. MOORE. April 20, 1722. C. GALE, C/C

Here’s the mystery part… sorry for not having an exact deed book reference…I grabbed this among some stuff and did not get a proper citation but definitely a Chowan deed book…

Chowan Deed  book #?   page 436(crossed through) 414, then on same page #25:

Rbt. Hammilton to Gray

Mr John Gray Sr. [Sir]  If you deale so by others

as you have done by me you will get but few commissions

from London  I am sure you have not acted the fair

part by me Nither was it ever my dising [design]

that you should hade ye disposal of my 1/4 of

Lueas? Cargo. the trifeling Excuses you have

mead about delaying to sending Effects because of

a deference betwixt Mr. Cockburn & me is as

unacconable as your declining to win me about

my affaires & not to tel me my Effects is turned

to pitch & you have Kyred? yt. Pitch this 6 or 7 years

in yr? possession, hade you disinged my advantage you

hade sent me Returns 5 years agoe  I Expect you will

allow me Intrest for the time you have kept me

out of my Effects & if Mr. Stenton has not gote

them already I disayer you may give Mr. John Maul

drest deer skins or money yt all may be sent me yr

first opertunity & send me some Snake ru__? [root?]

for the books I give you, I am Sr your humble Sert

P Hamilton  Land ye 23 dink?  1723

[Endorced] (sic)

To Mr. John Gray in North Carolina America

North Carolina  I the within John Maul Grant me

to have Received from the wtin named John Gray

Eighty Nine Barrels of Pitch on the account of

and by the Order of the within Robert Hamilton Mert.

in Capt Hall Court London be in full of all

accots. twine the said Robt Hamilton and the sd

John Gray of the afored. Sum I Eaerer?

& discharge the said John Gray and having Sevll

orders besides the wtin Letter to receive the same

and os all debts proceeding the date of the within

Letter, as witness my hand this ninth day of

February 1724/5 Jo Maule

………………………….

Some misc. notes I’ve gathered…

http://www.southernbryanfamilygenealogialstudy.com/nc_bryans.htm

1377 2 Sep 1721 William Boon of Albemarle Co and Elizabeth Boon to Robert Sims of same, 10L 200 a NS Morattock Riv upon the SS of a Cypress Br, joining William Powell and the Br now in the actual possession of the sd. Sims, part of a Patent granted to William Boon 5 Mar 1711/2, Wit Joseph Boon, Nicholas Boon. Ack 5 Sep 1721 by John Bryan by virtue of a Power of Atty from William and Elizabeth Boon.

1378 2 Sep 1721 William Boon of Albermarle Co and Elizabeth Boon to Henry Sims of same, 15L, 200 a joining the Beaverdam Br, William Powell, William Brasswell and John Pace, now in the acutal possession of Henry Sims, part of a patent for 600 a granted to William Boon 11 Nov 1720. Wit Nicholas Boon, Joseph Boon, ack 5 Sep 1721 by John Bryan by virture of power of atty from William and Eliz Boon.

1431 19 Dec 1721 William Gray of Chowan to James Turner of IOW VA, 15P 320 a SS Morattoke Riv, joining the River Pocoson, Goose Meadow, John Bryan and the River. Wit John Gray, William Comrie, Seth Hatcha, 25 May 1722 C1-220)

1432 18 Dec 1721 William Gray of Chowan to John Bryan of Isle of Wight VA, 320 a SS Morattoke Riv, joining John Nairn and the River. Wit John Gray, William Comrie, Seth Hatcher. 25 may 1722 (c1-221).

Ann BRYAN is a daughter of Lewis BRYAN SR and married John GRAY, identified as follows:

C 163 6 Apr 1729 John Gray and wife Ann to John Bryant, 200 acres on the South Side of Morratuck River at Round Pond and Broad Meadow, adjoining Nicholas Smith. Wit John Perritt, John Hacher, Nov Ct 1729.

John GRAY leaves the following will:
#81 – Will of JOHN GRAY – 20 Sept 1745 – Nov Ct 1750 – surveyor – wife ANNE – beds, furniture in the lower rooms except desk, pewter, and brass pots etc also the use of my plantation where I now live adj Aunt Sarah’s Branch containing 400 acs as well as the use of my Negroes Charles and Sarah; eldest son, JOHN – all my lands in Northhampton and Edgecombe Counties, also a desk in the north room;
son WILLIAM plantation where I now live containing 800 acres adj Broad Branch, Aunt Sarah’s Branch, ROBERT HICKS, Cashia River, but if he dies before the age of 21 or without issue this land is to be sold by my executors with the consent of my daughters ANNE and BARBARA and their husbands if they have any and the proceeds to be divided between my daughters, BARBARA, ANNE, LUCRETIA, AMELIA, and LOUISA;
son WILLIAM – Negro James and Negro Sarah after his mother’s death; daughter JANET McKINZIE – one shilling sterling as I have already given her portion;
grandson JOHN McKINZIE – breeding mare;
daughter BARBARA – 500 (400 ?) acs in Bertie Co on the upper west side of Cashia River adj her brother WILLIAM and Broad Branch, THOMAS TURNER, also Negro Thomasin;
daughter ANNE – residue of land in Bertie on WS of Cashia River adj her sister BARBARA, THOS. TURNER, WILLIAM GREGOREY and the river – also Negro Moll;
daughter LUCRETIA – 200 acs in Craven Co adj Maules Branch – also six cows etc;
daughter AMELIA – 250 acs in Bertie Co in Indian Woods, also Negro Cooper;
daughter LOUISA – Negroes Marke and Ande.
Six months after my wife’s death, all my negroes not mentioned, cattle etc to be divided into 6 parts for my 6 youngest children – BARBARA, ANNE, WILLIAM, LUCRETIA, AMELIA, and LOUISA – JOHN and JENET are not to have any share of the Negroes left to their mother for her lifetime.
Exec – Brother EDWARD BRYAN, nephew THOMAS WHITMELL.
Wit DAVID GRAY, JAS WATSON, DOUGALD McKICHEN

A-150 Copied deed. 13 aug 1723 John Bryan of Bertie to Lewis Bryan of Bertie 37P 12Sh 6p, 640 acres, St. johns Neck, beg at a gum on Chinkapin Swamp Brays corner tree then along his line S45W260P to a pine another of his corner trees then along his other line N45W203P to a pine then S30W312P to a pine in William West line then along his line N80E300P to a maple his corner tree on Chinkapin Creek swamp thence the meadndors of the swamp to the first station.
Signed: John Bryan.

Of course I would be remiss if I leave out this little tidbit…

Minutes of the North Carolina Governor’s Council

North Carolina. Council

October 08, 1736 – October 15, 1736

Volume 04, Pages 223-225

Read the petition of Sr Richard Everard Bart in behalf of Dame Susanna Everard Executrix of Sr Richard Everard Bart Deceased setting forth that the Tuskarrora Indians are indebted to the said Susanna £203 in Drest Deer Skins and praying that they may be compelled to discharge the same referred to the Indian Commissioners

Ordered that a Commission issue appointing Robert West Esqr—Speirs Jno Gray and Thos Whitmel Gent Commissioners for Indian Affairs

Ordered that for the future the Indian Traders do not presume to trust or give any credit to the Indians and that the aforesaid Commissioners take care to see this Order observed.

I think this post solves the “problem Pitman”…

Guy Baker found the missing “will” (actually a deed) of the Quaker Joseph… an obscure post from 1998 verifies it by the marriage of William Faulk and Patience Pitman…

Traci Thompson added the missing link of a forgotten daughter of Joseph Pitman… it all adds up… this is the second most difficult “proof” I’ve dealt with in the last 12 years…

Also see my Page “John Gay and John Gay Jr Wills”… I’ve updated the info which seriously substantiates what I say below…

More property puzzles to mull over…  click squares to enlarge… then click again…

As they say, “a picture is worth a thousand words”… but as kantankerous genealogists go… they demand the thousand words… so I’ve tried to add some of those…

These are some of the references I used to arrive at the map…

Edge. Co (Halifax) Db 4, page 153, deed date 10 Feb 1750, recorded Nov

Ct 1751, John Gay, Edge. Co to Joseph Pitman, Edge. Co for 35 pds, a

tract containing 240 acres beginning at a gum at the mouth of a branch

and running up the branch to Gay’s line then along the line to the

corner then down the said line to the river to three trees on the south

side of the branch then up the river to the first station, signed John

Gay (IC) (his mark), wit Moses Pitman, Joe Pitman (mark).  Abstracted

2-7-06, NCA film C.047.40002, CTC.

Abstracts of Deeds Edgecombe Precinct, Edgecombe Co NC, As Found In Halifax Co, NC, Public Registry, Deed Books 1-6, 1732-1758, Hoffman, Margaret M.

14 May 1756 – Joseph Pitman, Sr. sold land to Joseph Pitman, Jr. 90 acres on Tar River, joining a branch, John Gay and the River. Wit. Moses Pitman.

1757       31 May. William Green of Edgecombe Co., planter, to Jesse Green of same, planter, for £23 a tract of 126 acres on the south bank of Tar River and on deep Branch adjoining Richard Horn. Wit: James Horn, Joseph Pitman. Edgecombe Co. Deed Book 00, p. 6.

Edge. Co. Db 00, page 100, deed date 29 Jun 1757, recorded Jun Ct

1760, William Horn, Edge. Co to my son, James Horn, for love and good

will to my son, a tract on the south side of Tar River beginning at a

white oak at the mouth of a branch and running up the branch as

follows, north 20 west 80 poles to a white oak then south 25 west 60

poles then south 50 west 34 poles then north (56) west 44 poles to a

red oak then north 10 east 240 poles to a red oat at the river then

down the courses of the river to the beginning, containing 200 acres,

signed William Horn (mark W & H with common vertical leg), wit Jesse

Green, William Gay, Elijah Horn (mark). Abstracted 12-20-05, NCA film

C.037.40001, CTC.

31 May 1757 William Green of Edgecombe Co., planter, to Jesse Green of 

same, planter, for £23 a tract of 126 acres on the south bank of Tar River and on deep Branch 

adjoining Richard Horn. Wit: James Horn, Joseph Pitman. Edgecombe Co. Deed Book 00, p. 6.

Edge. Co. Db D, page 372, deed date 17 Aug 1770, recorded (Aug Ct 

1772), Jesse Green, planter, Edge. Co to Joel Horn, planter, same 

county for 50 pds VA, a tract of 126 acres on the south side of Tar 

River beginning at William Horn’s corner a red oak at the river and 

running (south) 60 west to a pine in William Horn’s line then west to a 

red oak then north to the Deep Branch then down the said branch to the 

river then down the river to the beginning, signed Jesse Green, wit 

William Taylor, Molly Taylor (X), acknowledged by Jesse Green.  

Abstracted 24 Dec 07, NCA film C.037.40014, CTC.

1758       24 Nov. William Green of Edgecombe Co. to Joseph Pitman of same, for £3 a tract of 90 acres on the south bank of Tar River at the mouth of Deep Branch adjoining said Pitman. Wit: Joseph (J) Pitman, Jesse Green.

Edge. Co. Db 1, page 420, deed date 15 Oct 1761, recorded 3 Sep 1762,

Earl Granville to William Gay, Edge. Co for 10 shillings sterling, a

tract beginning at a white oak in Thomas Pollock’s line (John Gay’s)

corner then by said Gay’s line south 10 east 180 poles to a red oak

then by (Joseph ?) & (? Pitmans) line north 80 east 136 poles to a pine

(Jesse ?) corner then by said line south 40 poles to a red oak then

west 400 poles to a red oak then north 216 poles to a black oak in

Thomas Pollock’s line then by said line to the first station,

containing 340 acres, signed Thos Child, wit (Saml Swann), John Linton.

NOTE: VERY HARD TO READ. Abstracted 6 Mar 07, NCA film C.037.40002,

CTC.

1762       22 May. William Gay of edgecombe Co. to JOSEPH PITTMAN of same, for 20s. Virginia money a parcel of 12 acres adjoining both parties and JOSEPH PITTMAN SENR., it being part of a Granville grant to said Gay for 340 acres bearing date Oct. 11, 1761. Wit: James Horn, JOSEPH “J” PITTMAN. DB 1, p. 398.

1762       22 May. William Gay of Edgecombe Co. to JOSEPH PITTMAN of same, for 27s. 6d Virginia money a parcel of 13 acres adjoining both parties, it being part of a Granville Grant to said Gay for 340 acres bearing date Oct 11, 1761. Wit; JOSEPH PITTMAN, James Horn. DB 1, p. 401.

Jul 1763

The last Will & Testament of Joseph PITMAN Decd. was Exibited on Oath by the Exor. &  proved by the Oaths of James HORN & Mary GREEN two of the Subscribing Witnesses thereto & at the same Time the Exors. were qualified accordg. to Law Ordred &c. An Inventory of the Estate of sd. Joseph PITMAN was Exhibited on Oath & Orderd &c. Ordred that Elisha BATTLE Esqr. Joseph SUMNER & Daniel ROSS or any two of them being first duly qualified meet & divide the Estate of Joseph PITMAN deceas’d among the Widow &  Children of sd. Deceas’d & Return &c.

1764       7 Mar. JACOB PITMAN of Edgecombe Co. to Samuel Longbottom of same, for £80 Proc. money a tract of 200 acres on the south bank of Tar River adjoining Record, “it being the land and plantation whereon my father, BENJA. PITMAN, lived and gave me by his last will and testament.” Wit: Edward Moore, Thomas Pridgin. DB C, p. 158.

Edge. Co. Db C, page 301, deed date 18 Jan 1765, recorded Apr Ct 1765,

William Gay, Edge. Co to Elisha Battle, county aforesaid, planter, for

62 pds VA, a tract containing 225 acres being part of two surveys at

“four shillings (per) hundred Quit rests” 150 acres os said land was

taken up and a patent granted to John Gay bearing date 20 Apr 1745 and

the other 75 acres granted to the said William Gay 15 Oct 1761, on the

south side of Tar River beginning at a Spanish Oak in the purchase

patent line the said Battle’s corner then north 83 east along the said

line to the river then down the various courses of the river to the

mouth of a large branch Joseph Pitman’s line then up the various

courses of said branch to the said Gay’s line of his new survey then

along the said line south 10 east to the said Gay’s back line then

along the said line (W) to two black jacks the said Battle’s corner

then north 203 poles to the first station, signed William Gay, Ann Gay

(X) (called his wife), wit Jesse Gilbert, Arthur Gay (A), John Battle,

Ann was examined for her free consent. Abstracted 11-07-05, RD copy,

CTC.

1769       24 Aug. Samuel Longbottom and wife, Mary Bottom, [sic] of Edgecombe Co. to NEWIT PITMAN, River adjoining Richards, it being part of a tract bequeathed by BENJA. PITMAN to his son, JACOB and conveyed by said JACOB PITMAN by deed to said Samuel Longbottom. Wit: Duncan Lamon, James Jolly, Archibald Lamon. DB D, p. 155.

Edge. Co. Db 3, page 466, deed date 29 Mar 1779, recorded Aug Ct 1779,

Elisha Battle, Edge. Co to William Battle, for natural love and

affection for his son, William Battle and for his better maintenance &

preferment, three tracts of land containing in the whole, 873 acres on

the south side of Tar River, to wit, #1 containing 615 acres being part

of two patents, one granted to George Pollock dated 18 Aug 1727 and the

other granted to John Gay dated 20 Apr 1745 and also a deed granted to

William Gay bearing date 15 Oct 1761, beginning at a maple on the river

bank a little above where Tristrem Rodgers formerly lived then by a

line south 7 east to the run of Gays Swamp then up the various courses

of the said swamp to Elisha Battle’s line then by said line south 7

east to a pine in the back line of Pollock’s patent Elisha Battle’s

corner then by said line north (23) east to a Spanish oak formerly

Gay’s corner then by a line south 203 poles to two black jacks in the

back line of said Gay’s survey then by the said line east to Jethro

Pitman’s corner then by his line north 10 west to a branch the dividing

line between the said Gay’s survey and Joseph Pitman’s land then down

the various courses of the said branch to the river then up the various

courses of the said river to the first station; #2 containing 258 acres

being part of a tract of land granted to the said Elisha Battle by a

deed bearing date 10 Aug 1762, beginning at Elisha Battle’s corner then

by his line south 240 poles to the back line of the said survey then by

his line east 172 poles to a corner pine then by a line north 240 poles

to Gay’s line then by said line west 172 poles to the first station,

reserving a lifetime right for said Elisha Battle and his wife to 200

acres as he or his wife shall choose, signed Elisha Battle, wit Jacob

Battle, Jeremiah Hilliard. NOTE: DEED CALLS FOR THREE TRACTS BUT ONLY

TWO ARE SHOWN TOTALING THE WHOLE 873 ACRES. Abstracted 5-12-05, NCA

film C.037.40005, CTC.

1780 – Joseph Pitman Sr of Edgcomb Co to William Faulk of same. 29 Apr 1780 3L. 90 acres on the south side of Tar River. Joining the mouth of Deep Branch, Joseph Pitman; also 12 acres which was part of a 340 acre Granville Grant to William Gay 15 Oct 1761 who sold it to Joseph Pitman 2 May 1762, on the south side of Tar River, joining Joseph Pitman Sr, sd William Gay. Wit: Joel Horn, Jethro Pittman. Aug Ct 1780. Edward Hall CC (Edgecombe County, North Carolina Deeds, Vol 3, 1778-1786, Abstracted by Dr Stephen E Bradley, Jr)

12 Nov 1782 – To all whom these presents shall come greeting know ye that I Joseph Pitman Senr of the county of Edgecombe in the state of North Carolina for and in consideration of the sum of five shillings current money of North Carolina to in hand paid by William Faulk my son in law and his wife the receipt which I do hereby acknowledge and for and in consideration of the natural love good will and affection I have and bear unto my said son in law William and his wife and divers other good causes and considerations me theretofore (having) hath given granted and by these presents doth freely and absolutely give and grant unto my said son in law William and his wife their heirs and assigns one tract of land containing ninety acres more or less (with) the appuntentures thereafter these (__) belonging and being the land and plantation whereon I now live also one (still) and one crosscut saw one hand saw and (__) carving knife one large iron pot and all my plantation tools (__) (__) (__) to have and to hold the said plantation land and premises aforesaid with the appurtenance respectively unto the said William Faulk and his heirs and assigns to the only proper use benefits and (__) (__) of him the sd William Faulk to him his heirs and assigns forever and (__) Joseph Pitman for my self my heirs (__) the land plantation and premises aforesd with the appurtenances and other articles to the afore mentioned William Faulk (__) his heirs and assigns shall and well warrant and defend forever by these presents in witness whereof I the said Joseph Pitman have hereunto set my hand and seal the 12th day of November anno Domini 1782 – Joseph Pitman – signed sealed and delivered in presence of / (Joel) Horn / Jefse Green (Edgecombe Co NC, Aug Court 1783) Edgecombe Co NC Real Estate Conveyances, 1780-1788, Vol E, 4, c.037.40006, Vol E, page 399 (William Faulk sold this land on 1 Jan 1786)

1 Jan 1786 – Edge. Co. Db 4, page 363, deed date 1 Jan 1786, recorded Feb Ct 1786, William Faulk, planter, Edge. Co. to Thomas Pitman, planter, Edge. Co. for 100 pounds, all his right to a tract of land containing 90 acres being part of a patent granted to Joseph Pitman bearing date Feb 10, 1750, on the south side of Tar River beginning at a corner sweet gum on the river in the mouth of the Long Branch then up the said branch to a white oak Jethro Pitman’s corner then south along the said line to a corner white oak then easterly to a red oak on the river then up the various courses of the river to the first station, signed William Faulk, wit. Williamson Barnes, D. Battle, Elisha Battle. Abstracted 8-19-03 from NCA film C.037.40014, CTC.

Edge. Co Db 5, page 85, deed date 3 Jan 1789, William Faulk, Edge. Co

to Henry Williams, county aforesaid for 75 pounds, a tract on the south

side of Tar River, beginning at the mouth of the Deep Branch then up

the said branch to the (line) a white oak then along the line to a pine

in Joseph Pitman’s line which is now Jethro Pitman’s then along the

said Pitman’s line to the river to a white oak then down the river to

the first station, containing 90 acres, also, another tract containing

12 acres being part of a tract contained in a grant from Granville

bearing the date 15 Oct 1764 to William Gay containing 340 acres on the

south side of Tar River and was conveyed by said Gay to Joseph Pitman

on 2 May 1762 and was conveyed by said Pitman to William Faulk on 29

Apr 1780, beginning at a marked gum in Joseph Pitman, SR’s line running

down the said line to said William Faulk’s own corner a pine the along

the said Wm. Faulk’s line to a white oak then up the above said Wm.

Gay’s back line to marked pine a corner in said line then along a line

of marked trees to the beginning, signed William Faulk, wit Abisha

Horn, Millie Horn.  Abstracted 9-25-04, NCA film C.037.40007, CTC.

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the Estate Sale of Amy Pitman in 1791 shows some remarkable family ties…
note the buyers…
William Faulk… brother in law
Joseph Pitman… brother
Thomas Pitman… brother

her Executor was Abisha Horn (purported to marry Ann Ricks)… each are listed as buyers…

some notes involving Abisha Horn and others… note the property references…

1791 Jan 7 Jethro PITMAN, planter, sells 60 acres to Abishai HORN on S. side of Tar River, adj. Thomas PITMAN, on Great Branch, in Edgecombe County; proved in Feb 1794 court
1793 Mar 27 Jethro PITMAN sells 80 a. to Elisha HORN on S. side Tar River, adj. Abishai HORN and BATTLE, on Great Branch, in Edgecombe County; proved in Aug 1793 court
1793 Aug deed Jethro PITMAN to Elisha HORN proved in court, Edgecombe County
1794 Feb deed Jethro PITMAN to Abishai HORN proved in court, Edgecombe County 
1794 Jethro PITMAN receives state grant for land in Johnston County, NC, 100 a. on N. side of Little River
1796 May 31 Jethro PITMAN appointed overseer of the road in Johnston County
1796 Nov 24 Abisha HORN, dec’d, land divided among heirs, Joel, Joab, Josiah, Willie and Abisha, in Edgecombe County. 63 a. called the PITMAN place is mentioned. Land is on S. side of Tar River; Elisha BATTLE’s line; Daniel ROSS’s line; Abisha HORN’s line; PRICE’s corner; Buck (Beech?) Swamp. Earlier minutes of the Edgecombe County Court of Pleas and Quarter Sessions show Jethro involved in this area in regard to laying off land for a water grist mill for Moses HORN, 1774-1780.

In 1791 it seems Amy Pitman may have been living on her father’s property which had devolved to William Faulk…  Why didn’t she marry? Think about the pool of available men… if I am correct in my supposition that her father Joseph Pitman d.1782ish was a “strict” Quaker, then there simply may NOT have been an eligible Quaker male available.  She did note one underage daughter in her will (Elizabeth) which I suppose could indicate she was a widow of another Pitman male but it needs more research to prove… for now I am assuming she was single.

Amy Pitman will of 1791…

Notes on a later Joseph Pitman…  my hunch being that this is the son of Joseph the Quaker (brother of Amy Pitman) and also probably the man who witnessed the will of William Anderson in 1789…

Edge. Co. Db 9, page 335, deed date 25 Mar 1797, recorded Feb Ct 1800,
John Haywood, Raleigh, NC to Michael Williams, Edge. Co for $250, a
tract on the west side of Deloachs Branch containing (220) acres being
part of a tract which Joseph Pitman presently lives & being the whole
of the land belonging to the said Haywood on the west side of Deloachs
Branch except that part where Joseph Pitman lives, containing 25 acres,
signed John Haywood, wit S. Haywood, John Hudson. Abstracted 9-27-06,
NCA film C.037.40009, CTC.

Edge. Co. Db 13, page 307, deed date (20) Jul 1801, recorded May Ct
1810, John Hines, Edge. Co. to my grandsons, John H. Walker (John Hines
Walke) & William Walker for natural love and affection, and the further
consideration of ten shillings, a tract of land, land is to be loaned
to my son in law, Thomas Walker and his wife, Sarah Walker during their
life but said Thomas and Sarah are not to sell land but may live on it
during their natural lives, being part of a tract of land I bought of
Isaac Hill beginning at a lying down oak Joseph Armstrong’s ( ) then
south 31 ½ west to John Griffin line then along the said Griffin’s line
to a pine a corner then along a line of marked trees 111 poles to a
pine or hickory then a line of marked to Joseph Armstrong’s line 152
poles to the first station, being 100 acres, signed John Hines, wit.
Joseph Pitman, Joseph Armstrong (proved). Abstracted 1-26-04, NCA film
C.037.40011, CTC.

Edge. Co. Db 13, page 203, deed date 21 Dec 1809, recorded Feb Ct.
1810, Joseph Pitman and his wife, Selah Pitman Edge. Co. to William
Moore, son of George Moore, Edge. Co. for 100 pounds a tract of land on
the north side of Town Creek containing 91 acres, except for the use of
1/3 of said land to Elizabeth (Hanbury), widow of Samuel Hanbury, dec’d
during he natural life and no longer, land on Ruffin Branch, beginning
at a pine a corner of Samuel (Hanbury), dec’d, then along said
(Hanbury) and Solomon Ward’s line west 54 poles then along said
Hanbury’s line 107 poles to a corner in said Hanbury’s line then south
37 east through the ( ) to an oak in said Hanbury’s line then
along said Hanbury’s line nearly a north course to the beginning,
signed Joseph Pitman (X), wit. Rhoda Proctor. Abstracted 10-29-03, NCA
film C.037.40011.

Edge. Co. Db 13, page 441, deed date 28 Dec 1809, recorded Feb Ct
1811, William Balfour, Edge. Co. to Joseph Pitman, County aforesaid,
for 175 pounds, a tract of land on the north side of Town Creek,
containing 116 acres, beginning, at a water oak in Watery Branch, James
Bracewell corner the along said Bracewell line to a lightwood stake
corner then (north) along James (May) line to a pine Moore’s and Hill’s
corner then along Hill’s line to aforesaid branch to a corner maple at
or near the run of said branch then down the water course of said
branch to the first station, signed William Balfour, wit. Hardy
Proctor, N. Sessums. Abstracted 2-6-04, NCA film C.037.40011, CTC.

Edge. Co Db 13, page 432, deed date 28 Aug 1810, recorded Feb Ct 1811,
Joseph Pitman, Edge. Co. to Moses Baker, county aforesaid for ($310) a
tract of land on the ( ) side of Town Creek containing ( )
acres, beginning at a water oak in the Watery Branch ( ) Baswell’s
corner then along said Bracewell’s line to a lightwood stake corner
then north along James Moors line to a pine Moors and Hill’s corner
then along Hill’s line to the aforesaid branch to a corner maple at or
near the run of the said branch then down the watery courses of said
branch to the first station, signed Joseph Pitman (X), wit. Isaac
Norfleet, Joshua Bullock. Abstracted 2-6-04, NCA film C.037.40011,
CTC.
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This DEED appears to be the intestate will “of a sorts” of Joseph the Quaker b. 1724- d. about 1782/3…  the missing piece of the puzzle, so to speak…

12 Nov 1782 – To all whom these presents shall come greeting know ye that I Joseph Pitman Senr of the county of Edgecombe in the state of North Carolina for and in consideration of the sum of five shillings current money of North Carolina to in hand paid by William Faulk my son in law and his wife the receipt which I do hereby acknowledge and for and in consideration of the natural love good will and affection I have and bear unto my said son in law William and his wife and divers other good causes and considerations me theretofore (having) hath given granted and by these presents doth freely and absolutely give and grant unto my said son in law William and his wife their heirs and assigns one tract of land containing ninety acres more or less (with) the appuntentures thereafter these (__) belonging and being the land and plantation whereon I now live also one (still) and one crosscut saw one hand saw and (__) carving knife one large iron pot and all my plantation tools (__) (__) (__) to have and to hold the said plantation land and premises aforesaid with the appurtenance respectively unto the said William Faulk and his heirs and assigns to the only proper use benefits and (__) (__) of him the sd William Faulk to him his heirs and assigns forever and (__) Joseph Pitman for my self my heirs (__) the land plantation and premises aforesd with the appurtenances and other articles to the afore mentioned William Faulk (__) his heirs and assigns shall and well warrant and defend forever by these presents in witness whereof I the said Joseph Pitman have hereunto set my hand and seal the 12th day of November anno Domini 1782 – Joseph Pitman – signed sealed and delivered in presence of / (Joel) Horn / Jefse Green (Edgecombe Co NC, Aug Court 1783) Edgecombe Co NC Real Estate Conveyances, 1780-1788, Vol E, 4, c.037.40006, Vol E, page 399 (William Faulk sold this land on 1 Jan 1786) (I think Guy Baker transcribed this…)

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Henry Horn & Joseph Pitman notes…

Tar River (opened c. 1757, still active 1789).
Perquimans MM sent Joseph Newby to visit Friends on
Tar River, 6/6/1753. It later mentioned that Friends
were holding meeting there in the house of Henry Horn
(8/3/1757). These Friends became part of Perquimans MM
on 5/3/1758. Tar River Meeting became part of Rich
Square MM when it was established in 1760. It reported
to RSMM on 9/6/1760 that its worship circulated
between the houses of Henry Horn and Joseph Pitman. On
11/26/1774, EQM moved the meeting from Henry Horn’s
house, so by 8/19/1775 the Friends at Tar River had
started another meeting at Jure Watkins’s house. The
MM moved the meeting to Richard Vick’s house on
2/21/1778. On 8/31/1772, EQM transferred Tar River
Meeting to Contentnea QM. When Job Scott visited in
1789, he wrote that it was on Stoney Creek in Nash
County.         http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/QUAKER-ROOTS/2006-11/1163561204

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Here is how I think this all washes out…    These are the “Quaker Pitmans”….

Benjamin Pitman d. 1755    wife Ann

….. Moses

….. Jacob

….. Micah

….. Samson

….. Patience Faulk

….. Mary Bottoms

….. Abigal Pitman

….. Lacy Pitman

….. Cela Pitman

….. Jh_miaha Pitman

Moses Pitman d. 1760    wife Elizabeth

….. James

….. Moses

….. Mary

Joseph Pitman Sr   d. 1763  wife Ann   (son of William Pitman of Surry Co., VA)

….. Ann b. say 1749

….. Jethro  b. say 1751

….. Chloe b. say 1753

(estimates from Court Minutes)

Joseph Pitman Jr  b. 1-11-1724 d. 1782ish  (son of Thomas Pitman d.1730 of Meherin R.)

+Elizabeth (Gay) Pitman b. 1-11-1724 d. 3-31-1761

…..Faith b. 10-30-1747

…..Elizabeth b. 1-4-1752

…..Thomas b. 1-10-1754 d. 1816 m. Dicey Newton 1793  RW pension # R8275

…..Joseph b. 10-8-1756  m. Selah ___

…..Abia b. 3-12-1758

…..Patience b. 9-21-1760 m. William Faulk