Andersons of Colonial N. Carolina

And yes, I work in my theory of Elizabeth Pitman… its what I do… its an obsession.

Scroll to bottom of Page list if you dare… it even has nifty documents.

Read the post just before this to get a grasp of what this post is about.  With my vast audience I figure at least a dozen people are enthralled by this… maybe 13.

Below is a chronology of the “Court Minutes”, Book 1-4 of Edgecombe County 1757-1790.  I have extracted only the Joseph Pitmans out of the vast Pitman Pie.

The object of the game is to figure out the logical choice as to “who is the Joseph who was most likely left standing to sign the will of William Anderson in 1789.”… or Who is the last Old Phart Joseph left standing in 1788…. whichever, I’m flexible with rules.

The term “Quaker” is used below to identify a family group… while the later children may not be Quakers I still use it as a basis to link them to their earlier forebears and in some cases neighbors.

A distinctly different Joseph is who I refer to as the “Constable”.

Please let me know if you can identify any Joseph who is not connected to the “Quakers” or the “Constable.”

 Got it? Let’s go….

Joseph Pitman

Edgecombe Co., NC, Court Minutes 1744-1762 Book I, GoldenWest Marketing Genealogy, Temple City, CA

[187]   Feb 1757/8

Jos. PITMAN son of Robert (Overseer marked out) Constable in Room of George WIMBERLY

(This is a critical bit of info… this is “the Bailiff” referred to in the research of Donald Gordon. Note also that I have found only ONE Robert Pitman of this era and area. This Joseph was clearly born at least by 1736… I have a bible record of his brother Samuel b.1736. I think Joseph was born a bit earlier.) 

[191]   Feb 1757/8

Philip THOMAS in the room of Joseph PITMAN Overseer

[241]   Jun 1759

Wm. GREEN to Joseph PITMAN Deed prov’d by Jesse GREEN

(Nov. 24, 1758 William Green sold to Joseph Pitman 90 acres on the south bank of Tar River at the mouth of Deep Branch adjoinjng said Pitman…. Wit: Joseph (J) Pitman and Jesse Green.  These 2 Josephs are father and son… the “Quakers”… uh …. I think)

[267]   Sep 1760

Robert COLEMAN is appointed Oversr. of the Road from SWEETENS Landan (sic) on Tar River

to MIALS Bridge on SWIFT Creek.  Ordered that the following hands Work on the same, Towit:

John MOORE          John FOUNTAIN          Wm. ROLLINS          James BROWN

John HATCHER       Joseph PHILIPS          Joshua SIKES           Robert MANOR

Aaron ODUM           Andw. ROSS              John ONEALS           Wm. ANDERSON

Joseph PITMAN       Arthr. PITMAN            James STALLIONS    Gregory STALLIONS

Moses WOODWARD &       Robert COLEMAN

(note the neighbors… particularly William Anderson… these folks are clearly north of Tar River in 1760.  The 2 Josephs noted in [241] above are clearly south of Tar River)

[272]   Dec 1760

The last Will & Testament of Moses PITMAN Deced. was Exhibited by the Exrs. therein named

and at the same time Joseph PITMAN one of the People called Quakers affirmed that he saw the

sd. Moses PITMAN Execute the sd. Will & that he saw Jno. GAY & Jesse GREEN sign the same

as Evidence thereto & at the same Time the Exr. Qualified acco. to Law

  (note the name Jesse Green… see [241] above)

[301]   Sep 1762

Jonathan COLEMAN appointed Guardian of Aaron COLEMAN orphan of Charles COLEMAN

(Robert COLEMAN crossed out) & John MURPHREE & Joseph PITMAN Sec. in the sum of

£200 Proc.

( Jonathan Coleman married the sister of the wife of William Anderson… note the involvement of Joseph Pitman “the Constable”)

[304]   Sep 1762

Deed of Sale from Elizabeth PITMAN to Joseph PITMAN proved by Aaron COLEMAN

(Elizabeth Pitman’s property adjoined William Anderson… note above which Joseph Pitman gave Security for this Aaron……I say the Constable… what do you think?)

[310]   Sep 1761-Dec 1761

Ordred that Joseph PITMAN & John BAILY be appointed Searchers

  (I don’t know where Baily lived?…… sue me.)

[318]   Dec 1761-Mar1762

A Deed of Sale from Elizabeth PITMAN to Arthur PITMAN proved by Sherd. HAYWOOD Esq.

(note the presence of Arthur Pitman in [267] above and the proximity to Joseph Pitman. I say the Constable.)

(…further down the transcrpt)

A Deed of Gift from Henry HORN to Wm. HORN proved by the Affirmation of Joseph

PITMAN a Quaker

(need I point out the obvious? “the Affirmation bit”… Horn was south of Tar River and he was also a Quaker)

[342]   Sep 1762

A Deed of Sale from Arthur PITMAN to Joseph PITMAN proved by Wm. ANDERSON

(see [304] and [267]…. the Constable )

[343]   Sep 1762

A Deed of Sale from William GAY to Joseph PITMAN acknowledged

(William Gay was a Quaker and lived south of Tar River adjoining sd. Pitman)

[347]   Sep 1762

Ordred that the following Persons be a jury to lay off a Road from the foot of the New Bridge

to be built over the Tar river the nearest and most convenient Way into the road that leads

Tarbo. Towit:

(list of names including)   Joseph PITMAN…William ANDERSON

(I’m thinkin’ the Constable)

Edgecombe Co., NC, Court Minutes 1763-1774 Book II, GoldenWest Marketing Genealogy, Temple City, CA

[11]   Jan 1763

John BAILEY & Joseph PITMAN Searchers

(Baily again…where did he live exactly?)

[12]   Jan 1763

Joseph PITMAN constable in the Room of John MURFREE

(I think most folks will agree that being a Quaker came with a “stigma”… I can cite laws, particularly during the early 1700s of Perquimins Precinct/ County that specifically forbade Quakers from holding an office such as Constable.  My hunch is this is the son of Robert)

[18]   Jun 1763

Grand Jury retur’d towit:

Samuel CARTER          Hardyman POPE          James BOAZMANS          James KNIGHT

Joseph STRICKLAND    James WILLIAMS        Soloman NETTLE              Kindred CARTER

Robert WRIGHT            Arthur PHILIPS            Richd. THOMAS                Moses WOODWARD

Elias FORT                  Joseph PITMAN           James WILLIAMSON          John WATKINS

William BRYANT

who being Qualified withdrew to Business

Petit Jury returned &c towit,

(list includes William ANDERSON)

[25]   Jul 1763

Ann PITMAN is appointed Guardian to Ann, Jethro & Chloe PITMAN Orphans of Joseph PITMAN

Deceas’d giving Security in the sum of £500 Proc. Daniel ROSS & Jesse GREEN Security

(Quaker)

[27]   Jul 1763

The last Will & Testament of Joseph PITMAN Decd. was Exibited on Oath by the Exor. &

proved by the Oaths of James HORN & Mary GREEN two of the Subscribing Witnesses thereto

& at the same Time the Exors. were qualified accordg. to Law Ordred &c.

An Inventory of the Estate of sd. Joseph PITMAN was Exhibited on Oath & Orderd &c.

Ordred that Elisha BATTLE Esqr. Joseph SUMNER & Daniel ROSS or any two of them being

first duly qualified meet & divide the Estate of Joseph PITMAN deceas’d among the Widow &

Children of sd. Deceas’d & Return &c.

(Quaker)

[28]   Jul 1763

Ordred that Joseph PITMAN Exor. to the Estate of John GAY Junr? Deced. sell the Perishable

Part of the sd. Estate accordg. Law (sic) for the Benefit of the Devisee.

(Quaker)

[35]   Jul 1763-Oct 1763

Ordred that Anne PITMAN Guardian of the Orpans of Joseph PITMAN have leave to sell the

Perishable Part of the Estate of the sd. Orpahans & return &c. & that she likewise have leave

to sell a Mare and Colt which were of the Estate of the sd. Joseph PITMAN deced. and

not yet divided be sold to pay the Debts of the sd. Joseph & that the sd. Sale be held on

last? Friday in Novemr. next.

(Quaker)

[37]   Oct 1763

The Person appointed to Divide the Estate of Joseph PITMAN deced. havf? made return

Orddred (sic) to be recorded.

Addl. Invy. of Estate of Joseph PITMAN deced. being Ret. adm. to Record.

(see a pattern here?)

[49]   Jan 1764

Acct. Sales of the Estate of Joseph PITMAN Deced. Ord. &c.

(that Quaker thing…)

[58]   Apr 1764

William PITMAN is appointed Constable in Room of Edward LANE Ordred &c.

Lycence is on Mocon granted to Abram ALQUI__ to keep an Ordinary and Victualling house

at his dwelling Plantation he thereupon enterd into Bo__ with Isaac WILSON and Joseph

PITMAN Securities.

(with my concerns of the Quaker “stigma”, I hazard a guess that this may be the son-in-law of Andrew Ross who had property near William Anderson….  but the Ross’ had property in several areas of Edgecombe including the area of the Quaker Josephs.  But I may be blowing smoke because one of the Quaker Josephs served in the militia- 1750s…bottom line… I don’t know about this William guy… see [80] below.)

[66]   Apr 1764

Ordred that Elisha BATTLE, Sherwood HAYWOOD Esqrs __ ___SUMNER or any two of them

divide & settle the Estat_ __ Joseph PITMAN deced. and return &c.

(Quaker)

[70]   Jul 1764

The Persons appointed to divide & settle the Estate of Joseph PITMAN deced. return’d an

acct. thereof which ___ Ordred to be recorded.

(Quaker)

[80]   Oct 1764

A Deed of Sale from John HATCHER & Uxr. to Stephen BATCHEL__ proved by William PITMAN

A Deed of Sale from Robert ARMSTRONG to William PITM__ proved by Joseph PITMAN

A Deed of Sale from Robert ARMSTRONG to William PITM__ proved by Joseph PITMAN

(this is a headbanger because Stephen Batchelor and “a” William Pitman eventually obtained property in Nash Co.  I’ve tried to track this William to a point of frustration very near sobriety… I’m pretty near ticked off)

(I call it Quaker) 

[82]   Oct 1764

Joseph PITMAN is appointed Constable ___ the ensuing Year.

(ahh… the Constable… he must have liked the job)

[83]   Oct 1764-Jan 1765

John BAILEY and Joseph PITMAN Searchers for the Ensuing Year.

(who IS this John Bailey? and what exactly IS a Searcher?)

[87]   Jan 1765

Anne PITMAN Guardian of the Orphans of Joseph PITMAN hath leave to bring in her accts.

with sd. Orphans next Court.

(Quaker)

[92]   Jan 1765

The following Persons are appointed Constables for the ensuing Year, towit,

(list includes) Joseph PITMAN

(job security)

[117]   Jan1766

Anne PITMAN Guardian of Jethro Anne & Chloe PITMAN Orphans of Joseph PITMAN deced.

exhibited on Oath accts. of her Guardianship which were allow’d &c.

Joseph PITMAN Guardian of Thomas PITMAN Orphan of Joseph PITMAN deced. exhibited

his acct. by his Afirmation which was allow’d &c.

(Quaker… the “Afirmation thing”)

[144]   Jan 1767

Joseph PITMAN Execu. of the last Will & Testam__ of John GAY Deceaed Exhibited an acct

Current against the sd. Estate which was approved of and Ordered &c.

(son of the older Quaker)

[178]   Oct 1767

Ann PITMAN (accounts of her Guardianship…)

(Quaker)

[204]   Feb 1769

Joseph PITMAN Guardian of Thomas PITMAN A Legatee to John GAY decd. returned an acct. of

his Guardianship which was approved Ordered &c.

(ditto)

[249]   Feb 1770

Joseph PITMAN Overseer of the Road in the Room of Robert CARLISLE

(dunno… where did Carlisle live?)

[251]   Feb 1770

Joseph PITMAN Guardian of Thomas PITMAN exhibited an Acct. of his Guardianship

(“on Oath who” crossed out) Affermation Ordred &c.

(this could support an argument that he was a Quaker, but then I don’t think I need to)

Anne PITMAN exhibited…account of her Guardianship

  (Quaker)

[274]   Aug 1770

Joseph PITMAN Overseer of the Road in the Room of Robert CARLISLE

(that pesky Carlisle guy again?)

[291]   Feb 1771

Ann PITMAN Guardian of Jethro & Cloe PITMAN Orphans of Joseph PITMAN dec’d

exhibited an Acct. of the Guardianship of the last year which was approved of Ordered &c.

Joseph PITMAN Guardian to Thomas PITMAN Legatee of John GAY decd. exhibited

his account into Court which was aproved. Ordered &c. (sic)

(Quaker)

[297]   Feb 1771-May 1771

Joseph PITMAN is appointed Constable in the Room of Jonathan COLEMAN

(son of Robert… note how I just threw that in?)

[299]   same as above

Robert DIGGES is appointed Overseer of the Road in the Room of Joseph PITMAN

(must have been too busy Constable’in to mess with that Road crap)

[306]   May 1771-Aug 1771

The following Majestrates are appointed to take the List of Taxables for the Present

Year Vizt: (list includes) Joseph PITMAN

( I think a Constable was considered a Majestrate?)

[329]   Feb 1772

Joseph PITMAN (account of Guardianship…Thomas PITMAN)

Anne…(same)

(Quaker)

[348]   May 1772-Aug 1772

Joseph PITMAN (list of Magistrates…similar to above)

(similar to above [306])

[380]   Feb 1773

Ann PITMAN Guardian to Chloe PITMAN Orpan of Joseph PITMAN decd. exhibited

an Acct. of her Guar___ which was approved, Ordered &c.

(Quaker)

[381]   same as above

Joseph PITMAN (account of Guardianship…Thomas PITMAN)

(Quaker)

[405]   Apr 1774-Jul 1774

Joseph PITMAN continued Constable for the ensuing year.

(son of Robert)

[413]   Jul 1774-Oct 1774

Joseph PITMAN (list of Magistrates…to take List of Taxables)

(son of Robert)

EDGECOMBE COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA, COURT MINUTES, 1775-1785, BOOK III, Haun

[18]    Apl 1775

3.   Jonathan COLEMAN is appointed Constable for the ensuing year in the room of Joseph PITMAN.

(son of Robert… don’t forget the Jonathan Coleman connection)

[31]    Oct 1775

A Deed of Sale from Joseph PITMAN & Wife to Thomas TEAT acknowledged.

(where did Teat live?)

[63]    Feb 1779

Joseph PITMAN is appointed Overseer of the Road in the room of Loveless SAVAGE.

____  _____ Robert CARLILE is appointed Overseer of the Road in the Room of Joseph PITMAN.

(this Carlile guy is beginning to irritate me.)

[128]   Feb 1780

Deed of Sale from Joseph PITMAN to William FOLK proved by the Oath of Joel HORN.

Deed of Sale from Joseph PRICE to Moses PITMAN proved by the Oath of Joel HORN.

(Is this Joseph Price related to the Price living next to William Anderson?  actually this Joseph Price lived near the Quakers) (I call this Quakers)

[231]   A Deed of Gift from Joseph PITMAN to Wm. FOLK? proved by Joel HORN.

(William Faulk was the son-in-law of Joseph Pitman of southside Tar River…. Quaker)

[320]   A Grant to Joseph PITMAN.

(hmmm…  I haven’t checked this grant?)

[346]   3. A Deed of Sale from Joseph PITMAN to Abner PITMAN proved by Ethd. PHILIPS.

(according to the research of Donald Gordon…”Joseph who first appears in Edgecombe records as a bailiff of the court had a son Abner (b. 1758) and grandson born 1787″.  …there is a purported bible reference supporting Abner as a son of Joseph the Baliff… but then, that pesky Quaker Joseph also had a son named Abner, noted in his will, 1787.  … what’s your call, Quaker or Constable?)

EDGECOMBE COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA, COURT MINUTES, 1786-1792, BOOK IV, Haun

[67]    The last Will & Testament of Joseph PITMAN was proved by the oaths William EMSON and Frederick TERVATHAN Ord. &c.

(Quaker)

[71]    Feb 1787

Reuben JONES one of the executors named in the last Will and Testament of Joseph PITMAN decd. came into Court and qualified thereto.

Ordered that the perishable estate of Joseph PITMAN decd. be sold by the Exor. according to Law.

(Quaker)

[75]    Apl 1787

Amos PITMAN Orphan of Joseph PITMAN decd. aged Sixteen years is Ordered to be bound apprentice to Timothy MANNING to learn the trade of a Taylor.

(ditto)

[105]   Acct. Sales of the estate of Joseph PITMAN decd. exhibited on Oath by the exor.

(ditto)

[107]   Reuben JONES exor. of Joseph PITMAN decd. return’d his acct. Current agt. the sd. estate on Oath.

(ditto)

[121]   Jan 1788

Charity & Isaac PITMAN Orphans of Joseph PITMEN decd. being of lawfull age came into Court & chose Reuben? JONES Guardian.

(ditto)

[183]   May 1789

28.  A deed of Sale from Joseph PITMAN to Thomas PITMAN proved by Robert SHERROD.

(?) (The Joseph d.1763 left an orphan Thomas… I can’t call this because the 2 Quakers are dead and a pesky young Joseph shows up in an estate sale of an Amy Pitman of 1791 but its obvious this is a young phart that can’t be associated with the distinguished Old Pharts that I’m analyzing. Got it? Good… Let’s continue….)

[238]   May 1790

The Last Will & Testament of William ANDREWS decd. was proved by the Oaths of Elijah HORN & Joseph PITMAN & Elijah PRICE the exor therein qualified and at same time took out Letters Testamty.

(this is William ANDERSON)

[239]   May 1790

Inventory of the estate of William ANDERSON deceased returned on Oath by the exor.

(The will was signed by Joseph Pitman the son of Robert Pitman.   I think they knew each other since childhood and quite possibly were cousins.)  If you think this may be one of the mystery sons of Thomas Pitman from his 1750ish Will then I will just shake my head. Those kids would be young pharts.)

1790 Edgecombe County Census

Joseph Pitman  1 over 16,  2 males under 16,  2 females

(This is the only Joseph Pitman on the census… but if you are one of those who take a look at the neighbors it could easily appear that this guy is living south of the Tar River which would be one of the Quaker clan.  It is pure coincidence.)

Michael Horn

Sarah Barnes

John Pitman

Joseph Price

Ann Horn

Jethro Pittman (son of the Quaker Joseph, d. 1787)

Ann Pittman

Briton Adams

Amos Rose

Sion Trevathan

Frederick Trevathan  (witness to will of 1787…the Quaker)

Wm. Deloach

Wm. Elenor

Joseph Pitman  (son of Robert? or a young phart?)

(Until their senior years, William Anderson and Joseph Pitman lived northside Tar River near Swift Creek and near a little creek called Falling Run.  In 1787 Anderson moved southside Tar River just above the modern Wiggins Lake.  He made his will there. “a” Joseph Pitman was living just west of him.)

Edge. Co. Db 9, page 335, deed date 25 Mar 1797, recorded Feb Ct 1800,

John Haywood, Raleigh, NC to Michael Williams, Edge. Co for $250, a

tract on the west side of Deloachs Branch containing (220) acres being

part of a tract which Joseph Pitman presently lives & being the whole

of the land belonging to the said Haywood on the west side of Deloachs

Branch except that part where Joseph Pitman lives, containing 25 acres,

signed John Haywood, wit S. Haywood, John Hudson. Abstracted 9-27-06,

NCA film C.037.40009, CTC.

(the only Joseph this could be is the son of Robert… who was in the 1790 census, being that he was an Old Phart… otherwise it is a young phart.)

Got it?

Joseph Pittman, son of Thomas Pittman, was born on January 11, 1724-
1725, and settled in lower Edgecombe County. His wife Elizabeth was
born on January 11, 1724 (?) and died on March 31, 1761. They were
members of the Rich Square Monthly Meeting of the Quaker Society by
September 6, 1760, but he was on November 16, 177- “dismissed for
proposing marriage to one outside of the Society.: (This reference
could have been to Thomas Pittman, Jr.)

Children of Joseph and Elizabeth Pittman:

Faith Pittman was born on October 30, 1747.
Amy Pittman was born on May 2, 1749.
Elizabeth Pittman was born on January 4, 1752.
Thomas Pittman, Jr., was born on October 8, 1756.
Abia Pittman was born on March 12, 1758.
Patience Pittman was born on September 21, 1760.

There were quite a few Pitmans or Pittmans living in Edgecombe County
by 1760, but no one appears to have worked out all their
relationships. Joseph Pitman the Quaker, witnessed the will of Moses
Pitman on March 24, 1759. One Joseph Pitman made his will on
December 18, 1786, and another on October 9, 1762, but the lists of
legatees do not indicate that either was the father of the above
children.

Hugh Johnston
Rocky Mount Telegram
June 6, 1958

Who the heck is this James Pitman?

Haun’s Edgecombe Cout Minutes, Book III

[327]-57   May 1785

The following are insolvents returned by the collector of Captain FLOWER’S district for 1784 which were allowd viz: Sherrod HORN, Jesse BOAZMAN, Isaac MELTON, James PITMAN, William JONES, Daniel HIGHSMITH , Benjamin ROGERS, all Pols & Danl. HIGHTOR? for 1 Poll & 460 acres.

With the pitiful lack of information we have for ANY James Pitman can this be our guy of the 1740s deeds?  If he was in his 20s in the 1740s this would tag him roughly 70ish yrs old in 1785.  I dunno.

I have him “apparently” selling all his holdings by 1746 and then he just disappears… could it be he was a tenant, sharecropper, living near relatives on the south side of Tar River?  The glaring problem is the 40 year gap…. but it is “plausible”.

Much ado is made of Virginia Indian Traders and of course the SC boys… but nary as much as a popcorn fart from historians concerning the NC traders… damn shame.

Noted folks who relocated from the Occoneechee Neck area of NC to SaxeGotha, SC.  Or, if you prefer, Halifax, NC area to Columbia, SC area.

Lets say the 1730s…

Philip Raiford (who originated in Isle of Wight) and his father  lived next door (literally) from George Anderson who was in IOW from 1695-1710.  Their property was located where modern Windsor, VA is.

Joseph Joyner (hailed from IOW very near the modern town of Franklin, VA)  This guy in SaxeGotha is either the father or son or both….  of particular interest is that James Millikin of Halifax, was his son-in-law.  From what I can tell Millikin was more “Merchant” than trader in the scheme of things.  Millikin did not move to SaxeGotha but he was in contact with Thomas Brown (the SC trader, not related to the Brownes of Occoneechee that I know of).  The two could actually write and pretty much spel.

This little tidbit is interesting because it may relate to some Sims of Occoneeche Neck who may also have been traders… I’m thinking of Robert and Joseph Sims. (you can find a Robert Sims on my IOW map… down in Nansemond County)   I would suspect this guy in SC is related but there is also another William Syms in SC who this article may be referring to…

December 31-January 7, 1736
Williamsburg Gazette 

By a Letter from Col. James Millikin, in North-Carolina, dated at Roanoak, December the 10th, we have the following Account, That he received a Letter from Mr. Thomas Brown, of the Cutaboes, the chief Trader there, informing him. That on the 9th of October last, Three Indians came to the House of one William Syms, on Pine tree Creek, and (in his Absence) killed his Wife, another Woman, Three Children, and a Negro Man; and then set Fire to the House, Tis suppos’d they carried a White Girl away with them alive, who liv’d at the House, but can’t be found.

They were followed the next Morning by Five White Men, upon the Track, who found they had stopp’d in the Night, near a Place called Mars-Bluff, on Pedee River, where they had shared the Plunder, and left the bloody Cloaths of the murdered People. The Indians bent their Way Northward, which makes it believ’d they were Tuskaroroes. Mr. Brown wrote the above Account to Col. Millikin, at the Request of the Governor of South-Carolina, desiring him to use his Endeavours to apprehend these horrid Murderers

Richard Jackson was associated with the Joyners and others from NC.

Robert Long/Lang  had land deeds in both places.

Gideon Gibson married a daughter of William Browne (who lived near the modern prison farm near Caledonia).  Some hub bub on the web concerns if he was mullato or indian…  interesting guy… seems to have been something of a hell-raiser during the “Regulator” era… may have moved east of SaxeGotha to Mars Bluff/ Sandy Bluff area.

See my “blogroll” for some links to SaxeGotha.

Also SC has come online with some images of colonial deeds and plats.  Good stuff.

http://www.archivesindex.sc.gov./

Elias Fort… there are 2 (cousins)… the son of George Fort settles near Carolus Anderson on Meherrin River and moves to Tar River around 1748.  The Halifax Elias was the son of John Fort.

Sarah McDaniel, widow of Daniel McDaniel, seems to have remarried John Anderson… maybe

http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/12/a_kentucky_funeral.html

Its Thankgiving morning and I’m starting a second pot of coffee plus I didn’t drink myself last night… just sayin’.

The evidence for my suspicion of the late Secretary of State can be found here:

http://www.archive.org/stream/abstractofnorthc00nort#page/228/mode/2up

See page 229 and 230 for these damnable abstracts… Thank You Mr. Grimes!

MACKDANIELL, DANIEL        Bertie Precinct

April 16, 1733. Sons: DANIEL, ARCHBELL, ELEXANDER, JAMES. Daughters: MARY, ANN and SARAH MACKDANIELL. Wife and Executrix: SARAH. Witnesses: JNO. ANDERSON, ALEXR. WEIGHT, JOHN BRYAN. No probate.

(Source: Abstracts of North Carolina Wills, By: J. Bryan Grimes, Secretary of State, 1910, Page 230)

MCDANIELL, DANIEL        Bertie Precinct

April 16, 1733. May 2, 1734. Sons: NICHOLAS, DANIEL, JAMES (negroes to each). Daughters: ANN and SARAH MCDANIEL. Wife and Executrix: SARAH. Witnesses: JOHN ANDERSON, ALEX. WIGHT, JOHN BRYAN. Original missing. Recorded in Book 1722-1735, page 295.

(Source: Abstracts of North Carolina Wills, By: J. Bryan Grimes, Secretary of State, 1910, Page 229)

Note*  I’ve revised much of this and added a Page…  see Sarah McDaniel

MCDANIELL, DANIEL

April 16, 1733. May 2, 1734. Sons: NICHOLAS, DANIEL, JAMES (negroes to each). Daughters: ANN and SARAH MCDANIEL. Wife and Executrix: SARAH. Witnesses: JOHN ANDERSON, ALEX. WIGHT, JOHN BRYAN. Original missing. Recorded in Book 1722-1735, page 295.

(Source: Abstracts of North Carolina Wills, By: J. Bryan Grimes, Secretary of State, 1910, Page 229)

I found this Inventory for a Daniel McDaniel died 1741/2 in Edgecombe County (modern Halifax).

North Carolina

Edgecomb County

February 1741/2 To the worshipful Court Now Sitting This Being a true and perfect Inventory of all and Singular of the personall Estate of Daniel McDaniel Descd By me —–

Serah Anderson Exittrix *e —-

This appears to me to be the son of the 1734 Daniel and the daughter Sarah is Executor for her brother. This would also explain her name “Sarah Anderson” if she was the wife of John Anderson who witnessed the 1734 will. The only alternative would be that this is a delayed probate of the 1734 Will (seven or eight years seems unusually long a delay). Also how to explain her name change? I don’t know of another Anderson the widow could have married other than the John mentioned. Drat… another brick wall.

Another Inventory is for James McDaniel 1744/5 and is possibly another son of 1734 Daniel:

A True and Perfect Inventory of the Estate of James McDaniel taken into my Possession as Guardian appointed by this Worshipful Court Viz. One Negro Man, one cow & calf, 2 chairs 2 Spoons 1 Pewter Dish 1 Pewter Bason 1 Iron Potrack 1 Iron Square 1 Hammer pr. me Edward Brown. Febry 19th. 1744/5

(Source: North Carolina Probate Records, 1735-1970, Edgecombe Estates, 1730-1747 Image 66 of 92, Familysearch.org)

This Edward Brown is likely related to Sarah Brown the widow of 1734 Daniel McDaniel and why I suspect this is a son. Also, since Edward Brown is appointed “Guardian”, I suspect James McDaniel may have left children.

Another Inventory is for Arch.l McDaniel 1744:

An Accot. of Sales of the Goods & Chattles of Arch.l McDaniel Deced. for Danl McDan.l Adm.r and Sold by S. Holliman —

June ye 30th 1744 —

(a modest list of items totalling 4 pds, 16 shillings)

Samll Holliman

(Source: North Carolina Probate Records, 1735-1970, Edgecombe Estates, 1730-1747, Image 48 of 92, Familysearch.org)

Deed Book Two, Edgecombe Precinct, (Hofmann)

pg. 23 ALEXANDER MCDANIEL (co. not identified) to JOHN BASS, SR. of Northampton Co. 10 May 1754 15 pounds lawfull money of England 100 acres more or less on the south side of Fishing creek, joining the creek part of a grant to MR. JAMES CASTILLOW for 494 acres 10 Apr. 1730 the sd. land belonging to my brother ARCHIBALD and he dying without children, the inheritance became mine Wit: HENRY THORNE, JOHN BASS, JR., ELIZABETH THORNE X her mark Reg. Edge. Co. May Ct. 1754 B. Wynns C. Ct.

Another Inventory for Daniel McDaniel 1768/1770:

A Trew Inventory of the Estate of Daniel McDaniel Decest taken by me Daniel McDaniel June 13th 1768

(list of items totalling L21,17, 10)

Edgecombe County Sd. February Court 1769

Exhibited on Oath and Ordered to be recorded Test Jas Hassy CC

In Obedience To an Order of Edgecombe County Court, We the Subscribers appointed have met and Decided the Estate of Daniel McDaniel Decd. as followeth

John McDaniel in procl………………………………. L 32, 10, 2

Elizabeth McDaniel in procl……………………….. 32, 10, 2

Cammel McDaniel in procl………………………… 32, 10, 2

Edgecombe County for May Inferior Court 1770

The above Division was Exhibited in open Court

and Ordered to be Recorded Test Jas Hasspy?

Dennis Grimes

William Clark

John Fort

A later short inventory dated 1770 identifies Daniel McDaniel “Execr” as “Junr.”

(Source: North Carolina Probate Records, 1735-1970, Edgecombe Estates, 1764-1772 Image 25 of 92 also Image 44 of 92 )

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So what to make of all this?

Daniel McDaniel (the immigrant?) d. 1734

son Daniel d. 1741

son James d. 1744/5

son Nicholas (unknown)

dau Ann (unknown)

dau Sarah m. John Anderson?

or

Daniel McDaniel (the immigrant?) d. 1734

widow Sarah m. John Anderson

son James d. 1744/5 relatively young

son Daniel d. 1768

gson Daniel probates father’s will in 1768

To speculate further and since this is the first evidence I’ve discovered of a Sarah Anderson directly associated with Daniel McDaniel and John Anderson…

?What if? John Anderson was the son of James Anderson who first shows up in this area in 1716? (See under Pages to the right for more details on these folks)

Note this will of 1733…

Elizabeth Anderson

Will

Recorded 24 Dec 1733

In the Name of God Amen: I Elisebth Anderson widow, on the South Side of Meherig River, In Bertie Precinct, In North Carrolina being weak in Body, But in perfect Sence and Memorey Praised be to God for the Sences Considering the Uncertainty of This Life Do make This my Last Will & Testement, As followeth

I do Bequeat my Soul to God who gave it and my Body to be Decently buryed at The discretion of my Exectrs, Hoping to Receive a Joyfull Resurrection at the Last Day Through Jesus Christ my Saviour.

Item

I give to my Son James Anderson one Shilling

Item

I give to my Son Carrolus Anderson one Breeding Mare and one Set of Iron wedges, a set of Harrow Hones

Item

I give to my Daughter Elisebeth Pitman, one paire of Small Mill Stones

Item

I give to my Grandaughter Elisebeth Anderson Two Cows and Calves and one Breeding Mare and one Feather Bed and one paire Sheets and one Blanket and one Iron Pot, and pott Hooks, and one Puter Dish and one Frying Pan and one Ewe Sheep and two Glass Bowles & Ten Spoons.

Item

I give my Daughter Elisebeth Pitmans Son William Anderson one Hiefer.

Item

I give to my Grandaughter Sarah Anderson Two Cows and Calves, and one Mare, and one Pot, and pot Hoocks, Two Puter Basons. And my own Bed where on I Lie with Furniture belonging there ontoo and one Ewe Sheep and one Chest

Item

I give to my Sd. Grandaughter, Elisebeth Anderson one Bread Tray, and one parlor, and paire of Fire Tonges.

And all the Rest of my Maiables within Doors and without Doors, I Doe Give to my afore Said Sarah Anderson my Grandaughter.

And I doe Appoint my Grandaughter, Sarah Anderson To be my Whole, and Sole, Execetess of This, my Last will and Tesements whatsoever as witness hand and Seal this fifth Day of November 1732.

Tess by Wss Before Sig’d my Daughter

Inter Lined

Elias EF Fort (his mark) Jurat

Ealen Fort (her mark) Elisebeth (her mark) Anderson

Hen. Crompton (signed)

What if Sarah Anderson was her granddaughter-in-law?