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More Indian Traders than you can wrap a deer skin around…

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Much ado is made of Virginia Indian Traders and of course the SC boys… but nary as much as a popcorn fart from historians concerning the NC traders… damn shame.

Noted folks who relocated from the Occoneechee Neck area of NC to SaxeGotha, SC.  Or, if you prefer, Halifax, NC area to Columbia, SC area.

Lets say the 1730s…

Philip Raiford (who originated in Isle of Wight) and his father  lived next door (literally) from George Anderson who was in IOW from 1695-1710.  Their property was located where modern Windsor, VA is.

Joseph Joyner (hailed from IOW very near the modern town of Franklin, VA)  This guy in SaxeGotha is either the father or son or both….  of particular interest is that James Millikin of Halifax, was his son-in-law.  From what I can tell Millikin was more “Merchant” than trader in the scheme of things.  Millikin did not move to SaxeGotha but he was in contact with Thomas Brown (the SC trader, not related to the Brownes of Occoneechee that I know of).  The two could actually write and pretty much spel.

This little tidbit is interesting because it may relate to some Sims of Occoneeche Neck who may also have been traders… I’m thinking of Robert and Joseph Sims. (you can find a Robert Sims on my IOW map… down in Nansemond County)   I would suspect this guy in SC is related but there is also another William Syms in SC who this article may be referring to…

December 31-January 7, 1736
Williamsburg Gazette 

By a Letter from Col. James Millikin, in North-Carolina, dated at Roanoak, December the 10th, we have the following Account, That he received a Letter from Mr. Thomas Brown, of the Cutaboes, the chief Trader there, informing him. That on the 9th of October last, Three Indians came to the House of one William Syms, on Pine tree Creek, and (in his Absence) killed his Wife, another Woman, Three Children, and a Negro Man; and then set Fire to the House, Tis suppos’d they carried a White Girl away with them alive, who liv’d at the House, but can’t be found.

They were followed the next Morning by Five White Men, upon the Track, who found they had stopp’d in the Night, near a Place called Mars-Bluff, on Pedee River, where they had shared the Plunder, and left the bloody Cloaths of the murdered People. The Indians bent their Way Northward, which makes it believ’d they were Tuskaroroes. Mr. Brown wrote the above Account to Col. Millikin, at the Request of the Governor of South-Carolina, desiring him to use his Endeavours to apprehend these horrid Murderers

Richard Jackson was associated with the Joyners and others from NC.

Robert Long/Lang  had land deeds in both places.

Gideon Gibson married a daughter of William Browne (who lived near the modern prison farm near Caledonia).  Some hub bub on the web concerns if he was mullato or indian…  interesting guy… seems to have been something of a hell-raiser during the “Regulator” era… may have moved east of SaxeGotha to Mars Bluff/ Sandy Bluff area.

See my “blogroll” for some links to SaxeGotha.

Also SC has come online with some images of colonial deeds and plats.  Good stuff.

http://www.archivesindex.sc.gov./

 

 

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January 7, 2012 at 2:12 pm

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the “widow” Pitman

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A couple commenters disagree with my theory of Elizabeth Pitman.  That is primarily why I chose this “blog” format- it allows for a healthy back and forth discussion- “peer review” if you will.  I encourage it and respect your opinions.  With that being said…
Under the Page “that Pitman gal” my theory is that Elizabeth Pitman is not the blood daughter of Elizabeth Anderson but the daughter of Thomas Pitman…  “Good Lord you blithering idiot”, you may ask, “anyone in their right mind can see she was the legitimate daughter of Elizabeth Anderson and had a son out of wedlock”.  Hugh B. Johnston even spelled it out:
Children of James and Elizabeth Anderson:
1. James Anderson
2.  Carrolus Anderson
3.  Elizabeth Anderson married ___Pitman
I disagree with him. I’ve disagreed with J. B. Bodie and I’ve pretty much accused Grimes of “abstracting while under the influence”.  But I can take it as well as dish it out.  I also have a sense of humor.  Try transcribing some colonial documents with a “spell checker” active and see if you can keep from laughing.
But back to my ludicrous theory which I so doggedly defend…
A dozen years ago I ran across this quote:
From the research of Donald Gordon (a Pittman descendant):
Thomas Pitman,of Monmouthshire, England, fled England during the Cromwell rebellion and landed in Virginia in 1649. He purchased land in Surry County, Virginia and had two sons Thomas and William. This grandson, the third Thomas moved about 1707 to Isle of Wight County. His daughter Elizabeth and son Robert, with Robert’s two sons, Samuel and Joseph moved to Edgecombe County North Carolina about 1738. Deeds in Edgecombe County show Robert, Samuel, Joseph and Elizabeth holding several hundred acres in the area North and West of Tarboro. Joseph who first appears on Edgecombe records as a bailiff of the court had a son Abner (b. 1758) and grandson born 1787. By this time the Pitmans became Pittmans and all spelled their name with two tees . The Pittmans held land North of Leggett stretching into southern Halifax County. Here Joseph and his wife Mary had a son Henry Elias born 1828. In 1850 Henry married Lucy Anderson who in 1852 gave birth to Biscoe Pittman who married Martha Alice Walston. To this marriage was born, as the last of eight children, Hobson Lafayette Pittman (1899) at Epworth.
While I can nitpick the “Thomas Pitman,of Monmouthshire, England, fled England during the Cromwell rebellion and landed in Virginia in 1649” bit… the part I have in bold is right on the money.  His daughter Elizabeth and son Robert, with Robert’s two sons, Samuel and Joseph moved to Edgecombe County North Carolina about 1738.  Furthermore I have proved it in my Pages.  The proof for Joseph Pitman, son of Robert, may be one of the most mind-numbing excursions into genealogy that you don’t want to take- but it is there.  The proof for Samuel Pitman was child’s play:
Source:  Henry and Harriett Turner Higgs Pittman Family Bible Records, page 20    http://digital.ncdcr.gov/cdm4/document.php?CISOROOT=/p15012coll1&CISOPTR=6082&REC=1
Robert Pitman is easily traced in Halifax.  Elizabeth Pitman not so much… but here she is in 1744:
So… I think Elizabeth Pitman had an illegitimate son William Anderson and may not have ever married.  Folks may have snickered when they called her “widow Pitman”.  I think the Pitman that got her land was her nephew.  Or I could be wrong…  But Donald Gordon was right.  And the son of Robert Pitman witnessed the will of William Anderson.

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January 4, 2012 at 8:39 pm

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2 new Pages added…

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Elias Fort… there are 2 (cousins)… the son of George Fort settles near Carolus Anderson on Meherrin River and moves to Tar River around 1748.  The Halifax Elias was the son of John Fort.

Sarah McDaniel, widow of Daniel McDaniel, seems to have remarried John Anderson… maybe

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January 4, 2012 at 4:13 am

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