Andersons of Colonial N. Carolina

meant what they said, said what they meant

Saxe Gotha… 1751

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This is more of an example of my fascination with history than my interest in genealogy. I have a theory, which I am researching, that a possible ancestor of mine lived in this place and was more than likely an Indian Trader. I chronicle what I can of him in several Pages on this site… one James Anderson who can be found at Oconeechee Neck, NC in 1716. Also at Saxe Gotha in this time period was on Philip Raiford, and Robert Long, Sr and Jr. They also can be found at Oconeechee Neck.

But on to the historical account which is the point of this Post.

click the filename/ not the download


the modern day map of South Carolina,-81.0777191,12.18z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0xf2d6193a12245184!8m2!3d33.9425266!4d-81.0324234

the 1730 map

my GOTO map for the Indian Paths:


Martin Friday’s property in Saxe Gotha … 1737

… Martin Friday a tract of Land in Saxegotha Township als Congrees

on the Southwest side of Santee river in Berkley County Cont-

aining fifty acres butting and bounding to the Northwestward

on Santee river to the Southeastward on land belonging to the

said Martin Friday to the Southwestward on Land not laid out

and to the Northwestward on Land laid out to Henry Scone

and hath such shape form used marks and appears by the above

platt certified … 1737…. Geo. Haig

… George Haig was later murdered by Indians…

…contributed by Jennifer from California



My trusty and well beloved friend and now contributing Sidekick, Jennifer from California, has surprised and delighted me with an email containing a reference to one John Bryan[t] (sic) of whom I have identified as an Indian Trader to the Cherokees. Not only did she supply the quote, but also the whole damn context of historical data surrounding it. But me, being somewhat of a reasonable person, realize that in this day and age, we live under the new rule of TMTR ( too much to read). I will forthwith produce the quote for the ravenously busy people to glance at. I shall also produce the link provided by Jennifer from California for the more genteel readers of my blog whose thirst for facts can only be alleviated by details.

page 37
Memorandom [sic]

May 4, 1751
That John Byant personally came before me and made Oath (being duely sworn) that he was in Timossy, a lower Town of the Cherokee Nation, when he was informed of Mr. Maxwell’s making his Escape from Kewoche, with several white Men in his Company. Considerably before Day, he says he was credibly informed of the Affair as follows, viz.: Mr. Beamer sent one of his Men to Hioree for Corn, who going to Kewoche aforesaid was stop’t by an Indian Fellow of that Town who, when he knew where the said white Man was going, told him not to proceed, for there was four white Men killed, naming them to the said white Man, viz., Daniel Murphey, Barnard Hughs, Charles G_ _ and Thomas Langley, and further told him that Mr. Maxwell was gone off before Day with several white Men in his Company, and that there was no white Man left where he was going. The said Indian Fellow kept the said white Man at Kewoche that Night, and sent him off the next Morning, telling him to go whome [sic] and tell the white People not to stir for they should not be hurt. The Day following, the head Men of three Towns, viz., Tymossey, Chewee and Ustostee, had a Meeting and proposed the Day fol-
lowing to have another, intending to have Mr. Beamer to hear their Talks, and also to write to the beloved Men (as they said) Below. But the Night proceeding, Mr. Beamer came to Tymossey, wherein was this John Byant afore- said and three more white Men. Mr. Beamer, as he went by, sent in Jas. Baldridge about an Hour before Day, warning thim to make what Haste he could and follow him. Mr. Beamer, being known to be [thoroughly] ac- quainted with Indian Affairs, and Humours, put them to a great Surprize and caused them forthwith to hurry off, as fast as possible.
Further the said John Bryant saith not. Sworn this 4th Day of May, 1751 before me.

The area of South Carolina discussed above is generally of Ninety Six and to Saxe Gotha which may be referenced by the links provided for MAPS.

But more to the point of discussion of John Bryan above… I think he is the son of Edward Bryan, originally of Isle of Wight and perhaps more specifically of Nansemond, VA, who relocated in the early 1700s to the West Side of Chowan River. Either the father Edward Bryan or his son of the same name became a “marriner” from the Chowan River and later out of New Bern on the Pamlico River.

While logging just off Muddy Landing Road (Scott’s Store Road) in the Scottstown aread near Goose Creek in Pamlico County in March of this year, William Cahoon uncovered a 600 to 800 pound granite slab from an abandoned cemetery. The information on this huge stone reads:
Edward Bryan, Born in London 1663, Emigrated to Nansemond County, Virginia 1690, Moved to Craven County 1700 — Died 1739.
Christiana, his wife dau. of Hodges Council, died 1743

This impressive headstone and the headstone of William B. Perkins (d.1853) are the only two headstones bearing the inscriptions in this cemetery. However, there appear to be at least ten other burial sites marked with ballast stones.

[from THE PAMLICO NEWS, Vol. 26, No.12, March 24, 1993, in an article by Nancy Winfrey] This Edward Bryan is thought by some genealogists to be the father of another Edward Bryan who died in 1825, a Hardy Bryan who married Sarah Bonner, and a Lewis Bryan who married Eliz. Hunter.

quoted from the website of Melinda Gardner

More later … as Jennifer from California and I are diligently researching facts as to the case at hand.

Written by anderson1951

December 21, 2022 at 7:30 pm

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  1. This is fascinating. I have been working on a DNA project with a cousin, looking at close matches, trying to suss out the unknown lines. I keep coming up with the names of traders, Bryant, Whitmell, Harrington/Herrington, Busby. But we have no identifiable paper trail to these people. Considering our families came out of nowhere around the time the Chowan and Tuscarora sold off their land, I have wondered if this is genetic evidence of the traders in the local indigenous population.



    December 22, 2022 at 5:49 am

  2. Hi Justin
    If you would like to contribute with research there is a “John Van or Vann” mentioned in the “commisioners” report above of whom I have an interest that he may be a son in law of John Bryan… hint hint

    rumor has it that he is a “rogue”… and as you know, nothing gets my juices flowing more than horse thieves and women of ill repute…



    December 22, 2022 at 6:03 am

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