White,Copeland,Parker,Jordan,Fleming…Chowan/Nansemond
NOTE… I have changed my mind on where the general area of this patent group is located… it turns out to be about 15 miles further south… I leave these notes so you can see my thought process.
Below stems from my research on the NE side of Chowan River just below the Virginia boundary and NC. This area has befuddled me for years… but as in this case, once I get a good set of clues… the dam breaks.
See the Post below this one for some background…
The “general area”…
This has me waste deep in the tall grass… but most of my viewers realize that with my methods.
William Copeland’s patent is not placed because it is extremely complicated but once I break it down it should shed a lot of light on this area.
… as usual, click under the graphic on the blue filename below… a new window will open so you can use the ZOOM feature more effectively.
As the file above is not on my map… so below… This James Fleming guy and his land is difficult to map because I have yet to figure out the creeks and branches (they simply do not pop out on my base map…which is about a hundred years old) Like I say, once I figure it out this should answer many questions…
…an Update
If you look carefully at may map above, where I show the “general area” of the very early 1700s… note below on this modern Google map:
The interesting point to be made with my “speculation” of where these patents “might” be located is that in these examples: just underneath my graphic for John Jordan is a creek named JORDAN CREEK. Is this merely a coincidence? Likewise… I am trying to place 300 year old patents in this area for various PARKERS and I find a Parker cemetery dating to at least the mid 1800s and possibly earlier. Again, is this merely coincidence? Google Map for yourself to verify…
Oh… and note that the name of Jernigan Branch on modern maps is itself a reference to early Jernigan colonists. It seems that Jernigan replaced the name Jordan for reasons unknown to me. I have not traveled this area of the eastern Chowan River but it seems to me this is not a useless “swampy quagmire” but more of a wooded area “that may occasionally flood”. Anyone know?
https://www.findagrave.com/cemetery/2190393/parker-family-cemetery
A Fleming was a witness to a deal involving the Chowan Indians
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Thos. Hoyter, King of the Chowan Indians, Jeremiah Pushing, Charles Beasley, James Bennett, chief men of the tribe, to Michael Ward. 300 acres on Katharine Creek; 2d August, 1733. Test, John Freeman, Robt. Hicks. (Gates.)
Same, to John Freeman. 200 acres, part of Chowan town; August 3d, 1733. Test, Robert Hicks, Edward Ilowcoit, James Craven.
Same, to Henry Hill 50 acres land on Bennetts Creek ; August 4, 1733. Test, John Freeman, Michael Ward, Wm. Flemmons.
justinpetrone
May 20, 2024 at 4:43 am
More great research. My line is documented (I think) to John White d. 1719 that left a Will in Isle of Wight (https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/White-3178 ). We believe this is validated by our Y-DNA research. John White d. 1719 has witnesses to his Will and asset valuation that include the names of William Scott, Thomas Copeland, Humphrey Marshal, Henry Pitt, and William West. Based on your previous research I would have placed him somewhere along the IOW/Nanesmond border where would have identified many of these names. I have never been able to locate his property.
I believe John White d. 1719 had a son John White d.1730, (https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/White-3178) who marries Quaker Sarah Clare, daughter of Timothy Clare. Hill Will mentions the names of William More, John Lille, Francis Nube, Jeams Stalens, and James Mingg. We have never been able to find names for property.
We believe John Died in 1730 had a son John White d. 1771 (https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/White-480) who lives a Will in Perquimans and was married to Rachel Jordan, daughter of Charles Jordan, granddaughter of John Jordan.
Your recent research and locations are interesting in that they identify both the Copeland and Jordan families near a John White and son John White that could fit the timing of what I think is my family and these land transactions would be consistent with my John d.1719 and son John d. 1730 but the witnesses might indicate a different location. Unless of course they had property in multiple locations.
The White family with common names and little documentation are a challenge to figure out. Your efforts are greatly appreciated.
Charles White
cpwchowangmailcom
May 21, 2024 at 4:42 am